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In reply to the discussion: CNN Shuts Down Bernie2016TV!! Because They Aired Raw Video Of The Debate!! CNN Censored Them! [View all]Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)238. Stop it, stop it, stop it...
.....my sides are hurting.
Ok. Carry on. I'm good to go again.
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CNN Shuts Down Bernie2016TV!! Because They Aired Raw Video Of The Debate!! CNN Censored Them! [View all]
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
OP
OMG bernie can start his own channel somewhere else, like CNN did many yrs ago lol nt
msongs
Oct 2015
#1
Hillary supporter has a newfound love for the MSM they claim has been trying to destroy Hillary..
frylock
Oct 2015
#235
And newfound love for Wall St and even the Telecommunications Act of 1996.
DisgustipatedinCA
Oct 2015
#328
So could Hillary. But her husband's administration apparently took care of that when he
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#11
How much has Time Warner contributed to Clinton's campaign? I'll take a wild guess, being...
George II
Oct 2015
#189
It is illegal for a business entity to contribute to any candidate. Do you have verification.......
George II
Oct 2015
#358
Really? You hope to sell that? It's simple to get around those regulations.
rhett o rick
Oct 2015
#417
Yes, it's simple to get around those regulations....Sander's has collected ~$30M on an average of..
George II
Oct 2015
#471
The bottom line no matter how your try to rationalize it to make yourself feel better,
rhett o rick
Oct 2015
#473
"The bottom line no matter how your try to rationalize it to make yourself feel better"....
George II
Oct 2015
#474
And you will be so proud if that happens. If the billionaires manage to push their candidate
rhett o rick
Oct 2015
#475
I am sorry but if you won't even try to have a decent discussion, it's goodbye to you. nm
rhett o rick
Oct 2015
#480
That's what THIS attempt to deprive Americans of what should be a PUBLIC SERVICE will help us find
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#99
The "public service" was rendered on Tuesday night, and then repeated at 11PM (eastern)
George II
Oct 2015
#360
But those online polls that show 80% saying that Sanders won are okay, even though those without...
George II
Oct 2015
#424
You're bringing up stuff as you go along - if people don't have cable or internet, how.....
George II
Oct 2015
#428
Again, please tell me - if people don't have access to cable (satellite) TV or the internet....
George II
Oct 2015
#435
Those polls were of people who actually SAW the debate. But 'scientific' poll that said Hillary won
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#477
Of course ...cable has a direct OC1 hookup to satellites ...but they never use them.
L0oniX
Oct 2015
#422
"Her husband's administration apparently took care of that when he passed legislation.....
George II
Oct 2015
#86
Clinton had the bully pulpit. Had he fought passage of the bill, it would not have received
JDPriestly
Oct 2015
#192
If Bernie gets elected, would you expect his wife to publically suggest a bill was a bad idea??
riversedge
Oct 2015
#401
She has a total of 6 or 7 years in Congress and 4 years as Secretary of State if you don't
JDPriestly
Oct 2015
#237
And the only reason she got the position as S.Of State, was because of the deal she made with Obama.
YOHABLO
Oct 2015
#374
The debate was rebroadcast minutes after the live broadcast ended and it also was...
George II
Oct 2015
#239
That's what we're talking about. The debate has been edited into only the segments
JimDandy
Oct 2015
#326
CNN doesn't own our Democracy. The Democratic Debate is Public Property. (nt)
stone space
Oct 2015
#278
immediately after the debate cnn showed doctored,edited footage of the "damn emails" moment
questionseverything
Oct 2015
#33
They also cut out the beginning part where Bernie mentions the *MEDIA and the emails
appalachiablue
Oct 2015
#138
Techs and editors are very adept at adjusting film I know, even important Congressional inquiries
appalachiablue
Oct 2015
#283
Of course I did, I don't run around like people here who PRETEND to know things they know nothing
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#190
They do, and they've been taking down critical posts as fast as they go up.There's a thread or 2 her
hedda_foil
Oct 2015
#136
Thanks. I picked it up from another DUer. Go ahead and use it if you'd like.
hedda_foil
Oct 2015
#146
Looks like CNN has been forced to respond to the massive outrage at their censorship. People POWER.
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#470
CNN carried the debate LIVE and unedited. CNN is not "controlling" the message, and it's not....
George II
Oct 2015
#180
I wonder, if you recognized the irony of telling a copywriter attorney he is "wrong".....
Sheepshank
Oct 2015
#248
And I'm wondering, am I really seeing people on DU supporting the SELLING of our
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#251
Value what you want. OUR DEMOCRACY IS NOT FOR SALE! I am so glad this has happened.
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#262
The DNC should never have signed a contract for political debates that gave CNN or any
JDPriestly
Oct 2015
#375
While CNN has the copyright, I think that Bernie's TV could argue that the debates are not
JDPriestly
Oct 2015
#378
What should have been done and what was actually done are the mistakes......
Sheepshank
Oct 2015
#270
Boy at you Reaching...right after you compare Bernie to a slave bought and sold
Sheepshank
Oct 2015
#273
I already mentioned that 4 posts up and that has nothing to do with honoring the contract
Sheepshank
Oct 2015
#293
Wrong. That debate, and all debates, are supposed to be presented as a public service, like PSAs.
ChisolmTrailDem
Oct 2015
#30
As for as I know, you had to pay to watch it online. That is unheard of in a democracy.
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#174
When you watch a football game or a baseball game on tv who owns the video?
LiberalArkie
Oct 2015
#389
That is what I am saying,the DNC should have kept the rights to it. The league of women voters and
LiberalArkie
Oct 2015
#391
THAT is unconstitutional. Thank you Now we have to start doing the research to find out why
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#294
Thank you. The concept of Democracy v Corporatocricy is alien to a small segment of the Population.
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#438
Ok...so, the issue isn't copyright law here. The issue is whether or not the content of a
ChisolmTrailDem
Oct 2015
#116
Your snark tells me you have no understanding of the implications here. Those of us who care about
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#185
"If you are going to attack someone, it's better to know something about them first"
Egnever
Oct 2015
#274
I would assume political debates are considered educational, and exempt from copyright.
Manifestor_of_Light
Oct 2015
#167
The entire idea that candidate debates in a democracy are copyrighted works is whack
Fumesucker
Oct 2015
#157
But CNN misrepresents its video as an accurate and truthful video of the event.
JDPriestly
Oct 2015
#216
This is the definition of poutrage. Oh noes why can't we violate copyright?!?!!
Metric System
Oct 2015
#9
So, we're just supposed to accept that a corporation can own the content of a presidential debate?
ChisolmTrailDem
Oct 2015
#37
Do you think it's right that CNN owns the rights to a presidential debate? Didn't these used to be
ChisolmTrailDem
Oct 2015
#57
Reread my post and you'll see where I stand on how the election process should be funded and run.
NuclearDem
Oct 2015
#60
Until 4/2016 they can not post live events...what do you call that? I say censored.
madfloridian
Oct 2015
#40
I think all live events, not sure. BernieTV will have more on it tonight.
madfloridian
Oct 2015
#176
Thanks for the kick. The more people who get this information, the better. I count on people, such
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#20
A consequence of privatizing the debate. I doubt there is a lawsuit available. Thanks, DWS.
cpompilo
Oct 2015
#17
This certianly EMPHASIZES just how MUCH of an influence Corporations now have over pretty much
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#24
The more attention they attract! Yes, exactly. How many more people are now going
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#29
The waterhole is metaphor for the place they figure they stick their hand in to turn the screws
nolabels
Oct 2015
#464
"taking money out of the pockets of workers" is delusional. Maybe stockholder value but I call bull
TheKentuckian
Oct 2015
#305
Yes they should. And this is going demonstrate more than anything else, how sold out we
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#35
He did make a great case for Bernie. THIS is what his campaign is all about. They have PRIVATIZED
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#85
Thanks for kicking the thread. We are VERY proud of Democratic Socialist candidate. He sure is
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#42
No, never as I recall. I'm mad they were given most favored status and that we exported
TheKentuckian
Oct 2015
#315
Like the right, the Third Way have an irrational fear of democratic socialism
whatchamacallit
Oct 2015
#67
You don't have a visceral sense of American history, so I wouldn't expect you to understand.
DisgustipatedinCA
Oct 2015
#330
No it's not a conspiracy. They gave him permission, then shut him down. No conspiracy, second
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#55
One of DU's attorneys, a Bernie supporter no less, jberryhill, is upthread. He says you are wrong.nt
stevenleser
Oct 2015
#80
But DU's non-attorneys say the Bernie supporting attorney, jberryhill is wrong ...
1StrongBlackMan
Oct 2015
#124
Thank you stage left. Yes it definitely is going to spark a huge discussion about privatizing
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#76
jberryhill is a lawyer and Bernie supporter. He commented upthread in #8. nt
stevenleser
Oct 2015
#81
Gosh, that guy is upset because CNN wants to protect it's copyrighted content?
George II
Oct 2015
#74
The law has been clear on this for decades: political speeches are protected by copyright
onenote
Oct 2015
#370
Where is a list of advertisers on CNN I can cut out of my life like I did Sears in the 80's?
jtuck004
Oct 2015
#84
Yeah, so? Go sell copies of Sesame Street and see how that works out for you
jberryhill
Oct 2015
#130
Yes, I agree. Tweet it, FB it, tell everyone you know in RL, wherever it can get
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#356
Not really because it speaks to the issue which is free access to the debates.
haikugal
Oct 2015
#301
Then why was her closing statement clipped by every Tivo owner who recorded it?
jberryhill
Oct 2015
#134
Because both the software is not sophisticated enough and they had lax recording practices
TheKentuckian
Oct 2015
#325
It isn't comparable in any way for reasons I've just discussed and probably more.
TheKentuckian
Oct 2015
#343
Ah, well, Ellen Degeneres will be fascinated to know her show is now "public domain"
jberryhill
Oct 2015
#137
Alright. After a near conniption fit followed by a few deep breaths I've come to the conclusion
Ed Suspicious
Oct 2015
#201
You're right. I was being an insufferable asshole. I only saw the "hot seat" portion of the
Ed Suspicious
Oct 2015
#307
If I was worried about getting my buttons pushed, I'd find something else to do with my time
jberryhill
Oct 2015
#308
BernieTV is a private YOUTUBE channel created by that guy in the video. It is NOT associated with
MADem
Oct 2015
#359
We know that CNN, like Fox News works for the Republican party. We see it in interviews, questions,
rladdi
Oct 2015
#149
Something about Bernies candidacy has really brought out the crazy in many of his supporters
stevenleser
Oct 2015
#361
We can thank the Clinton 1996 Telecomm Act for the consolidation and power of the MSM.
senz
Oct 2015
#170
If they are pulling these kind of dirty tricks (not only what's in the OP) this early...
BeanMusical
Oct 2015
#175
Has this been a lesson in socialism? Just as we have rights to our property, corporations has a
Thinkingabout
Oct 2015
#222
I'm not going to watch anymore corporate sponsored debates. I know who I am voting for and
liberal_at_heart
Oct 2015
#234
Scrolling along this thread shows Hillary supporters like the idea of censorship.
Spitfire of ATJ
Oct 2015
#241
People in this thread also believe in fair use of a political event....
Spitfire of ATJ
Oct 2015
#451
Good grief. Where have YOU been? Fox should be charged with TREASON. There is a saying
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#300
The backlash to CNN is intense. If all the candidates agree, then yes, they and WE should boycott
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#344
You still don't understand the difference between Bernie2016TV and eg, MY Utube channel.
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#454
"nor am I interested in wasting any more time trying to help you understand"
jberryhill
Oct 2015
#457
What backlash is happening? Has the Sanders campaign weighed in on this pressing issue?
Beaverhausen
Oct 2015
#455
Debates should be in the Public Domain. Why aren't they? Why does CNN have a copyright to OUR
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#364
There are a few people here who get, or care, that when the Media was deregulated, our Electoral
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#416
Oh it was owned by Corporations. But there were checks and balances on that ownership to protect
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#449
that's a nice narrative, but can you point to something specific in the 1996 Act that
onenote
Oct 2015
#461
Do you support Clinton's deregulation of the Media? Your question leads me to believe that you
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#462
And the dirty deeds done on behalf of Clinton continue. "Business, as usual". nt
Zorra
Oct 2015
#418
The M$M/DNC Fix is in. And they aren't even trying very hard to hide it. Fuck CNN! -nt-
99th_Monkey
Oct 2015
#439
For anyone concerned about "censorship" - CNN is now airing the debate AGAIN right now!
George II
Oct 2015
#469