2016 Postmortem

cosmicone

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141. CNN is so bad .... I'm sure the oligarchs are paying them to remove posts

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Thu Oct 15, 2015, 04:03 PM

Oct 2015

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CNN Shuts Down Bernie2016TV!! Because They Aired Raw Video Of The Debate!! CNN Censored Them! [View all] sabrina 1 Oct 2015 OP

OMG bernie can start his own channel somewhere else, like CNN did many yrs ago lol nt msongs Oct 2015 #1

hmm, you don't find this a little disturbing artislife Oct 2015 #5

Hillary supporter has a newfound love for the MSM they claim has been trying to destroy Hillary.. frylock Oct 2015 #235

Evolution going on all over the place! artislife Oct 2015 #246

The wind started blowing another direction AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #303

And newfound love for Wall St and even the Telecommunications Act of 1996. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #328

"Evolved" ?? Not a chance. More like weathervanes as their leader. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #350

lol FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #7

So could Hillary. But her husband's administration apparently took care of that when he sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #11

CNN is a cable company; who's airwaves did they buy up? brooklynite Oct 2015 #77

CNN Parent Company Is In The Bag For Hillary TrumanTown Oct 2015 #95

How much has Time Warner contributed to Clinton's campaign? I'll take a wild guess, being... George II Oct 2015 #189

Over $500,000. Can you say they love her? nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #351

It is illegal for a business entity to contribute to any candidate. Do you have verification....... George II Oct 2015 #358

opensecrets.org magical thyme Oct 2015 #399

Yawn.....Time Warner gave $25,000 out of their PAC. That's it! George II Oct 2015 #423

Really? You hope to sell that? It's simple to get around those regulations. rhett o rick Oct 2015 #417

Yes, it's simple to get around those regulations....Sander's has collected ~$30M on an average of.. George II Oct 2015 #471

The bottom line no matter how your try to rationalize it to make yourself feel better, rhett o rick Oct 2015 #473

"The bottom line no matter how your try to rationalize it to make yourself feel better".... George II Oct 2015 #474

And you will be so proud if that happens. If the billionaires manage to push their candidate rhett o rick Oct 2015 #475

How do you know what will or will not make me "so proud"? George II Oct 2015 #476

And why do you only ask questions? nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #478

I only do that with you because that's usually your M. O. .... George II Oct 2015 #479

I am sorry but if you won't even try to have a decent discussion, it's goodbye to you. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #480

That doesn't answer the question. RandySF Oct 2015 #385

That's what THIS attempt to deprive Americans of what should be a PUBLIC SERVICE will help us find sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #99

The "public service" was rendered on Tuesday night, and then repeated at 11PM (eastern) George II Oct 2015 #360

It wasn't even broadcast. People who can't afford cable couldn't see it. eom cprise Oct 2015 #421

But those online polls that show 80% saying that Sanders won are okay, even though those without... George II Oct 2015 #424

Non-sequitur. cprise Oct 2015 #426

You're bringing up stuff as you go along - if people don't have cable or internet, how..... George II Oct 2015 #428

Sabrina's post was about the public nature of the debate cprise Oct 2015 #430

Again, please tell me - if people don't have access to cable (satellite) TV or the internet.... George II Oct 2015 #435

Do you accept that the context of this discussion is cprise Oct 2015 #437

I'll answer your question after you answer mine, deal? George II Oct 2015 #440

But mine is neither rhetorical nor pedantic. cprise Oct 2015 #448

Those polls were of people who actually SAW the debate. But 'scientific' poll that said Hillary won sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #477

And how do you know that the people who voted "actually saw the debate"? brooklynite Oct 2015 #481

Of course ...cable has a direct OC1 hookup to satellites ...but they never use them. L0oniX Oct 2015 #422

"Her husband's administration apparently took care of that when he passed legislation..... George II Oct 2015 #86

Clinton had the bully pulpit. Had he fought passage of the bill, it would not have received JDPriestly Oct 2015 #192

Hillary Clinton didn't vote for the Telecommunications Act of 1996. George II Oct 2015 #206

Neither did I. Neither did you (I assume). sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #236

If Bernie gets elected, would you expect his wife to publically suggest a bill was a bad idea?? riversedge Oct 2015 #401

Should we expect honesty? Yes AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #483

She has a total of 6 or 7 years in Congress and 4 years as Secretary of State if you don't JDPriestly Oct 2015 #237

And the only reason she got the position as S.Of State, was because of the deal she made with Obama. YOHABLO Oct 2015 #374

Sorry, JDPriestly... Thespian2 Oct 2015 #314

Clinton didn't pass NAFTA either sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #229

So when Pres Clinton signed something bad, it was Congress's fault? LOL. rhett o rick Oct 2015 #353

I like what these people are doing to CNN Kalidurga Oct 2015 #204

The debate was rebroadcast minutes after the live broadcast ended and it also was... George II Oct 2015 #239

Our Democracy is not a Superbowl Game. stone space Oct 2015 #280

I'm sorry you shouldn't talk with Wall Street in your mouth Kalidurga Oct 2015 #306

LOL! n/t JimDandy Oct 2015 #313

FYI: Jury Results Live and Learn Oct 2015 #387

Where is the debate video now? JimDandy Oct 2015 #318

I watched in on Tuesday night, I have no idea where it is now.... George II Oct 2015 #322

That's what we're talking about. The debate has been edited into only the segments JimDandy Oct 2015 #326

Congrats! ThoughtCriminal Oct 2015 #363

Thanks! JimDandy Oct 2015 #409

Here you go, link to full debate, all 2 hrs 3mins. Fla Dem Oct 2015 #411

was the Kennedy/Nixon debate available a day or two after it happened? AlbertCat Oct 2015 #371

It's simply amazing to watch Democrats, such as yourself, CoffeeCat Oct 2015 #414

You think this is funny? demwing Oct 2015 #26

Think back to middle school elections for class president. Maedhros Oct 2015 #255

It might be a smart move to delete this. 99Forever Oct 2015 #28

BernieTV has/had its own You Tube channel. madfloridian Oct 2015 #64

Uh yeah. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2015 #226

CNN doesn't own our Democracy. The Democratic Debate is Public Property. (nt) stone space Oct 2015 #278

If I Ever Supported Hillary... billhicks76 Oct 2015 #400

I saw this earlier and I'm just as angry about it! haikugal Oct 2015 #2

M$M is losing control of the narrative! Cosmic Kitten Oct 2015 #3

Yup nt artislife Oct 2015 #4

The M$M is literally creating a memory hole Cosmic Kitten Oct 2015 #6

This will sound off topic artislife Oct 2015 #12

I loved TWOP - lots of people moved to Previously TV. n/t seaglass Oct 2015 #21

Not too off topic actually, I can see parallels Cosmic Kitten Oct 2015 #41

"eff the Palestine children" BeanMusical Oct 2015 #112

immediately after the debate cnn showed doctored,edited footage of the "damn emails" moment questionseverything Oct 2015 #33

M$M is a business. Cosmic Kitten Oct 2015 #47

They also cut out the beginning part where Bernie mentions the *MEDIA and the emails appalachiablue Oct 2015 #138

it definitely is not right questionseverything Oct 2015 #147

everything i have seen post debate censors cooper's question too questionseverything Oct 2015 #279

Techs and editors are very adept at adjusting film I know, even important Congressional inquiries appalachiablue Oct 2015 #283

I support Bernie - that guy is unhinged and wrong on the law jberryhill Oct 2015 #8

Wrong. The people have a right to the airwaves and especially to information sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #19

"I don't know the law" jberryhill Oct 2015 #87

+1 zappaman Oct 2015 #100

A Sanders supporter with sense and facts. Metric System Oct 2015 #120

Of course I did, I don't run around like people here who PRETEND to know things they know nothing sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #190

What they argue for is private ownership of the democratic process zeemike Oct 2015 #232

Doesn't CNN have a facebook page cosmicone Oct 2015 #111

They do, and they've been taking down critical posts as fast as they go up.There's a thread or 2 her hedda_foil Oct 2015 #136

CNN is so bad .... I'm sure the oligarchs are paying them to remove posts cosmicone Oct 2015 #141

Thanks. I picked it up from another DUer. Go ahead and use it if you'd like. hedda_foil Oct 2015 #146

that really is the right question questionseverything Oct 2015 #151

^^^ THIS ^^^ senz Oct 2015 #194

Maybe the question answers itself. hedda_foil Oct 2015 #263

Looks like CNN has been forced to respond to the massive outrage at their censorship. People POWER. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #470

CNN carried the debate LIVE and unedited. CNN is not "controlling" the message, and it's not.... George II Oct 2015 #180

You say that like you want it to be a "non-story." senz Oct 2015 #197

Nah, I don't care either way. But whose motives are you referring to? George II Oct 2015 #210

This message was self-deleted by its author Sheepshank Oct 2015 #244

I wonder, if you recognized the irony of telling a copywriter attorney he is "wrong"..... Sheepshank Oct 2015 #248

And I'm wondering, am I really seeing people on DU supporting the SELLING of our sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #251

Too bad you are twisting the law to suit your own narrative Sheepshank Oct 2015 #260

Value what you want. OUR DEMOCRACY IS NOT FOR SALE! I am so glad this has happened. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #262

Honoring a contractual agreement isn't selling off Democracy Sheepshank Oct 2015 #264

The DNC should never have signed a contract for political debates that gave CNN or any JDPriestly Oct 2015 #375

I don't disagree with anything you have said Sheepshank Oct 2015 #376

While CNN has the copyright, I think that Bernie's TV could argue that the debates are not JDPriestly Oct 2015 #378

I've been told there is a sunset. Sheepshank Oct 2015 #420

Do the Republicans have the same horrible deals. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #460

Don't know Sheepshank Oct 2015 #467

I'm with you, Sabrina Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #266

What should have been done and what was actually done are the mistakes...... Sheepshank Oct 2015 #270

Presidential debates should be public domain Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #275

Life is a crock of shoulds. staggerleem Oct 2015 #434

By any chance were those contracts between CNN and the jwirr Oct 2015 #319

foia questionseverything Oct 2015 #327

Okay, you are talking to an oldie here - translate please. jwirr Oct 2015 #333

freedom of information act questionseverything Oct 2015 #334

Thank you. jwirr Oct 2015 #337

FOIA requests are made to government agencies, not private entities JimDandy Oct 2015 #339

yea it is kind of a catch 22 situation questionseverything Oct 2015 #402

To what government agency should this request be sent? jberryhill Oct 2015 #345

"Mistakes" FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #427

I'm with Sabrina tblue Oct 2015 #377

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #265

I value the Constitution and its Amendments that abolished slavery Sheepshank Oct 2015 #269

You compare a bill of sale for a slave to a mortgage? demwing Oct 2015 #272

Boy at you Reaching...right after you compare Bernie to a slave bought and sold Sheepshank Oct 2015 #273

So you agree that not all contracts are created equally demwing Oct 2015 #276

I already mentioned that 4 posts up and that has nothing to do with honoring the contract Sheepshank Oct 2015 #293

Cable TV is not part of the airwaves. RandySF Oct 2015 #384

You have no "right" to CNN footage. JohnnyRingo Oct 2015 #388

CNN is not part of the public airwaves. Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2015 #403

Wrong. That debate, and all debates, are supposed to be presented as a public service, like PSAs. ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #30

Thank you, sometimes when I read some of the comments here I find it hard to sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #78

I completely understand how angry and frustrating it must be for you cosmicone Oct 2015 #118

that is the point cnn has heavily edited the footage questionseverything Oct 2015 #168

As for as I know, you had to pay to watch it online. That is unheard of in a democracy. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #174

I know huh? cosmicone Oct 2015 #177

Like I said, you clearly do not understand the concept of 'Democracy' sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #195

I do understand the concept of a "contract" cosmicone Oct 2015 #200

Oh definitely the preogatives of money MUST be considered! senz Oct 2015 #223

When you watch a football game or a baseball game on tv who owns the video? LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #389

That is the contract between the NFL or MLB with the broadcasters cosmicone Oct 2015 #390

That is what I am saying,the DNC should have kept the rights to it. The league of women voters and LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #391

All candidates signed off on the arrangement cosmicone Oct 2015 #392

No you didn't jberryhill Oct 2015 #193

With an explicit prohibition against rebroadcast n/t cosmicone Oct 2015 #203

Yep jberryhill Oct 2015 #209

THAT is unconstitutional. Thank you Now we have to start doing the research to find out why sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #294

Please inform us aspirant Oct 2015 #367

Which has what to do with this? jberryhill Oct 2015 #413

If you offer commentary before airing it, it is fair use Generic Other Oct 2015 #256

No, I watched it for free online as it was broadcast on CNN. TexasTowelie Oct 2015 #291

As long as you had some sort of internet access Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2015 #404

Just to clarify here... freebrew Oct 2015 #425

Thank you. The concept of Democracy v Corporatocricy is alien to a small segment of the Population. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #438

It was free for 75% of the US, then. Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2015 #463

It should be angering and frustrating for all Americans, cosmicone. senz Oct 2015 #199

Democracy is an alien concept for some people apparently. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #228

Well so far CNN has not been nationalized treestar Oct 2015 #231

I'm all for changing copyright law jberryhill Oct 2015 #91

Ok...so, the issue isn't copyright law here. The issue is whether or not the content of a ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #116

We should break up CNN into smaller local stations pronto n/t cosmicone Oct 2015 #142

That would be something to take up with the democratic party Egnever Oct 2015 #271

You just don't understand cosmicone Oct 2015 #122

You know what I found interesting jberryhill Oct 2015 #127

God did it for Bernie to cut evil Hillary out cosmicone Oct 2015 #139

Isaiah 45:15.... George II Oct 2015 #202

You know what I found interesting JimDandy Oct 2015 #355

Your snark tells me you have no understanding of the implications here. Those of us who care about sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #185

Of course it is a majority of people. Online polls prove it. cosmicone Oct 2015 #187

Very well said Sabrina! BeanMusical Oct 2015 #196

"If you are going to attack someone, it's better to know something about them first" Egnever Oct 2015 #274

Thanks for tamping down The conspiracy theorists redstateblues Oct 2015 #162

Another question. How was this handled in the past years? jwirr Oct 2015 #320

What past years? jberryhill Oct 2015 #442

They don't have ownership of the information, just the footage NobodyHere Oct 2015 #465

Political debates aren't entertainment owned by the networks. Matariki Oct 2015 #71

+1 daleanime Oct 2015 #93

"shouldn't be" and "are" are two different things jberryhill Oct 2015 #94

Good point Matariki Oct 2015 #97

What I found interesting jberryhill Oct 2015 #103

stop calling him ignorant questionseverything Oct 2015 #160

Can you point me to that? jberryhill Oct 2015 #165

I would assume political debates are considered educational, and exempt from copyright. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2015 #167

Where is the "educational" exemption from copyright? jberryhill Oct 2015 #169

Four Factor Determination Test Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2015 #285

How many of these cases have you done? jberryhill Oct 2015 #287

it is in the op posted questionseverything Oct 2015 #172

Yes, I listened to what he said jberryhill Oct 2015 #182

Bullshit jberryhill Oct 2015 #338

Who is the CNN contractual agreement with? DNC? And jwirr Oct 2015 #321

The entire idea that candidate debates in a democracy are copyrighted works is whack Fumesucker Oct 2015 #157

Doesn't the DNC own the rights to the broadcast? ybbor Oct 2015 #215

In a word "no" jberryhill Oct 2015 #217

Well that is fucking stupid on the DNC's part ybbor Oct 2015 #288

Unlike you, I was not present for the negotiations jberryhill Oct 2015 #290

I figured you were sitting next to her holding her purse ybbor Oct 2015 #292

But CNN misrepresents its video as an accurate and truthful video of the event. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #216

Can you please point me to the edited video you are talking about jberryhill Oct 2015 #224

Can you please point me to the debate video at all. JimDandy Oct 2015 #317

Ah, the "edited video" doesn't exist! jberryhill Oct 2015 #336

If CNN put it up on YouTube JimDandy Oct 2015 #342

This is the definition of poutrage. Oh noes why can't we violate copyright?!?!! Metric System Oct 2015 #9

Not to mention the channel wasn't "taken down." It's still there. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #14

So, we're just supposed to accept that a corporation can own the content of a presidential debate? ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #37

You're talking to somebody who wants to see publically-financed elections. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #49

Do you think it's right that CNN owns the rights to a presidential debate? Didn't these used to be ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #57

Reread my post and you'll see where I stand on how the election process should be funded and run. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #60

Until 4/2016 they can not post live events...what do you call that? I say censored. madfloridian Oct 2015 #40

mad is it just cnn events they can not post or all live events? questionseverything Oct 2015 #164

I think all live events, not sure. BernieTV will have more on it tonight. madfloridian Oct 2015 #176

please keep us informed questionseverything Oct 2015 #181

Censored and it makes me wonder what happens at that time? haikugal Oct 2015 #171

So Corporations now own presidnetial debates? Cosmic Kitten Oct 2015 #50

Thanks for the kick. The more people who get this information, the better. I count on people, such sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #20

Will Hillary supporters go away when Hillary loses? demwing Oct 2015 #44

If Hillary supporters "go away", Bernie has no chance of winning GE. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #52

I think (hope at least) he/she is talking about ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #113

Broadcasting a few clips of one poll. That's covered by Fair Use. backscatter712 Oct 2015 #119

What an odd reply. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #243

Here's another contract, valid as of the date it was written demwing Oct 2015 #267

So no contracts should ever be used? NobodyHere Oct 2015 #466

holy freakin crap restorefreedom Oct 2015 #10

A consequence of privatizing the debate. I doubt there is a lawsuit available. Thanks, DWS. cpompilo Oct 2015 #17

This certianly EMPHASIZES just how MUCH of an influence Corporations now have over pretty much sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #24

the elections are mostly run by corporations and insiders questionseverything Oct 2015 #140

Then after they ignore you they.......... nolabels Oct 2015 #13

The more attention they attract! Yes, exactly. How many more people are now going sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #29

Another concept one might remember nolabels Oct 2015 #70

we do know alot about them questionseverything Oct 2015 #191

The waterhole is metaphor for the place they figure they stick their hand in to turn the screws nolabels Oct 2015 #464

Talk about poutrage. China holds the same thought process of this person. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #15

Thank you for kicking the thread. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #31

You are very welcome. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #39

based on your comment downthread restorefreedom Oct 2015 #43

I think it is really shitty what the DNC has done. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #54

i would love to see LWV get back into this restorefreedom Oct 2015 #69

LWV never organized Primary debates... brooklynite Oct 2015 #88

yeah, i remember that line restorefreedom Oct 2015 #106

"taking money out of the pockets of workers" is delusional. Maybe stockholder value but I call bull TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #305

The debates should be held on the public airwaves. SamKnause Oct 2015 #16

This. nt. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #23

++1!! nt nc4bo Oct 2015 #25

Plus a zillion nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #34

Yes they should. And this is going demonstrate more than anything else, how sold out we sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #35

"Our own government" is no longer our own government, unfortunately. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #393

I agree. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #56

+ a trillion stage left Oct 2015 #58

Yeah! And they should put all 125 registered candidates on the same stage! brooklynite Oct 2015 #82

Sigh shenmue Oct 2015 #332

Precisely. Matariki Oct 2015 #102

You mean the way football games are? jberryhill Oct 2015 #105

plus 1 sam questionseverything Oct 2015 #178

Exactly! ctsnowman Oct 2015 #410

K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #18

Oh FFS... SidDithers Oct 2015 #22

Thats messed up what you wrote. darkangel218 Oct 2015 #27

Unbelievably messed up.... haikugal Oct 2015 #188

Even worst than that :( darkangel218 Oct 2015 #220

Yeah, well, we'll fight them where ever we find them... haikugal Oct 2015 #250

are you kidding? restorefreedom Oct 2015 #32

He did make a great case for Bernie. THIS is what his campaign is all about. They have PRIVATIZED sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #85

i think the truth restorefreedom Oct 2015 #104

+100%! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #394

Thanks for kicking the thread. We are VERY proud of Democratic Socialist candidate. He sure is sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #42

LOL, isn't that what we get mad a the Chinese Govt for doing? FSogol Oct 2015 #48

No, never as I recall. I'm mad they were given most favored status and that we exported TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #315

Thanks to the DNC our debates are OWNED by the Corporations Cosmic Kitten Oct 2015 #63

Like the right, the Third Way have an irrational fear of democratic socialism whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #67

Wow. kenfrequed Oct 2015 #110

That made me laugh; but, you should have said ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #121

Hey Sid, big election next monday, eh? BeanMusical Oct 2015 #148

LOL. JimDandy Oct 2015 #357

OMG! How could you write such a thing??? zappaman Oct 2015 #323

You don't have a visceral sense of American history, so I wouldn't expect you to understand. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #330

Not so much about CNN owning copyright. More about why jwirr Oct 2015 #331

These posts are just sad mythology Oct 2015 #36

No it's not a conspiracy. They gave him permission, then shut him down. No conspiracy, second sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #55

I assume this John Ellis is not related to the Bush family. nt grasswire Oct 2015 #38

Good one, grasswire Samantha Oct 2015 #101

Calling all DU ATTORNEYS! HELP BERNIE, PLEASE! in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #45

One of DU's attorneys, a Bernie supporter no less, jberryhill, is upthread. He says you are wrong.nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #80

But DU's non-attorneys say the Bernie supporting attorney, jberryhill is wrong ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #124

...and should there be any doubt.... jberryhill Oct 2015 #186

But you're STILL wrong!!!! 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #212

Oh, yes, well, this being the internet and all jberryhill Oct 2015 #302

I know the feeling ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #311

Has Bernie asked for help? Has he complained at all? brooklynite Oct 2015 #126

Cool more Bernie magic workinclasszero Oct 2015 #46

This has nothing to do with magic this bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #89

I couldn't understand why the debate wasn't on free Broadcast Television. stage left Oct 2015 #51

Because CNN was the highest bidder Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #347

Weren't they "shut down" by Viacom a few weeks back? Skinner Oct 2015 #53

They had CNN's permission to air, this is apparently about editing.. madfloridian Oct 2015 #61

They had CNN's permission to air, this is apparently about editing.. madfloridian Oct 2015 #59

We have a sham of a democracy. azmom Oct 2015 #62

This is very dangerous to our Democracy. Duval Oct 2015 #65

Tweeted this, Sabrina. stage left Oct 2015 #66

Thank you stage left. Yes it definitely is going to spark a huge discussion about privatizing sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #76

When that "huge discussion" starts, you'll let us know? brooklynite Oct 2015 #92

Kicking again stage left Oct 2015 #68

So is there any way or any lawyers out her in DU......................... turbinetree Oct 2015 #73

jberryhill is a lawyer and Bernie supporter. He commented upthread in #8. nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #81

Thanks........................ turbinetree Oct 2015 #219

Gosh, that guy is upset because CNN wants to protect it's copyrighted content? George II Oct 2015 #74

Hmmm... he has a point about what can be considered a company's Fawke Em Oct 2015 #75

The law has been clear on this for decades: political speeches are protected by copyright onenote Oct 2015 #370

The difference is that now the only forum its on Fawke Em Oct 2015 #373

This message was self-deleted by its author cal04 Oct 2015 #79

CNN = Corporate News Network. /NT tiredtoo Oct 2015 #83

You haven't met my brother-in-law. TexasTowelie Oct 2015 #298

And that's the same name tiredtoo Oct 2015 #408

Where is a list of advertisers on CNN I can cut out of my life like I did Sears in the 80's? jtuck004 Oct 2015 #84

He needs to contact Free Speech TV.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #90

good suggestion questionseverything Oct 2015 #198

We need to spread this all over the net all over bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #96

You think PBS doesn't own rights in its broadcasts either? jberryhill Oct 2015 #108

We donate to PBS. bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #125

Yeah, so? Go sell copies of Sesame Street and see how that works out for you jberryhill Oct 2015 #130

Sesame Street has nothing to do with a right to free unedited bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #230

Guess what; CNN aired the debate live as well brooklynite Oct 2015 #135

Yes, I agree. Tweet it, FB it, tell everyone you know in RL, wherever it can get sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #356

OMG!!! OMG!!! OMG!!! zappaman Oct 2015 #98

LOL! n/t cosmicone Oct 2015 #107

The copyright and exclusives are so asinine. cosmicone Oct 2015 #109

That isn't the salient point. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #128

No, CNN -DIDN'T- say it could be rebroadcast brooklynite Oct 2015 #132

Corporations also pay the cost of holding the debate cosmicone Oct 2015 #133

Those evil corporations! treestar Oct 2015 #240

Why should they make money off it? haikugal Oct 2015 #247

You know that actual people have to work to make that happen right? Beaverhausen Oct 2015 #257

Being condescending isn't helpful. haikugal Oct 2015 #261

Thanks. I only look young Beaverhausen Oct 2015 #296

Not really because it speaks to the issue which is free access to the debates. haikugal Oct 2015 #301

Not only that... jberryhill Oct 2015 #304

The debate had over 15 million viewers right? NobodyHere Oct 2015 #468

Stop it, stop it, stop it... Sheepshank Oct 2015 #238

Please dump the raw footage into torrent-land. PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #114

They own the video footage treestar Oct 2015 #150

I do not give a shit PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #153

What other laws treestar Oct 2015 #156

Unjust laws. PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #159

It's funny how Hillary supporters cannot see how corrupted the system. JRLeft Oct 2015 #115

As long as the corruption is working in favor of their candidate... BeanMusical Oct 2015 #158

It's the red pill vs blue pill choice again. JRLeft Oct 2015 #163

And that will stop the second she makes it to the GE frylock Oct 2015 #245

+100%! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #395

I put this on my FB it needs to go viral. bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #117

And people here on DU wonder why we Bernie supporters are wild and crazy? jalan48 Oct 2015 #123

CNN is in the bag for Clinton Bernblu Oct 2015 #129

Then why was her closing statement clipped by every Tivo owner who recorded it? jberryhill Oct 2015 #134

Because both the software is not sophisticated enough and they had lax recording practices TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #325

What I am saying is this: jberryhill Oct 2015 #329

It isn't comparable in any way for reasons I've just discussed and probably more. TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #343

Bernietv is a public good. No coorpration should have sole control Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #131

Ah, well, Ellen Degeneres will be fascinated to know her show is now "public domain" jberryhill Oct 2015 #137

I guess Bernies choice of underwear is of Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #143

"Ellen's show can go fuck itself for all I care" jberryhill Oct 2015 #155

My views are likely not the views of the majority. Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #173

K/R +++++++ SmittynMo Oct 2015 #179

Alright. After a near conniption fit followed by a few deep breaths I've come to the conclusion Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #201

Yes, we do expect people to be human jberryhill Oct 2015 #207

This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #214

You're right. I was being an insufferable asshole. I only saw the "hot seat" portion of the Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #307

If I was worried about getting my buttons pushed, I'd find something else to do with my time jberryhill Oct 2015 #308

Her show is not the debate. Really reaching on this it seems to me. TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #340

BernieTV is a private YOUTUBE channel created by that guy in the video. It is NOT associated with MADem Oct 2015 #359

After 125 posts of outrage... brooklynite Oct 2015 #145

We know that CNN, like Fox News works for the Republican party. We see it in interviews, questions, rladdi Oct 2015 #149

Why is the DNC scheduling debates on facsist cable Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #152

Let me guess BainsBane Oct 2015 #154

the fix is in and has been for years olddots Oct 2015 #161

Yes. The 1% didn't get filthy rich by playing by the rules. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #183

They play by the rules PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #184

After reading this thread Skidmore Oct 2015 #166

I agree workinclasszero Oct 2015 #205

Thread winner. Number23 Oct 2015 #208

+1 MadrasT Oct 2015 #211

No kidding. zappaman Oct 2015 #253

I'm laughing. So agree. juajen Oct 2015 #348

That's the most sensible thing I've seen Codeine Oct 2015 #352

Something about Bernies candidacy has really brought out the crazy in many of his supporters stevenleser Oct 2015 #361

Hmmm aspirant Oct 2015 #365

We can thank the Clinton 1996 Telecomm Act for the consolidation and power of the MSM. senz Oct 2015 #170

Of course they're backing the spouse of the candidate jfern Oct 2015 #225

If they are pulling these kind of dirty tricks (not only what's in the OP) this early... BeanMusical Oct 2015 #175

Cable News Edits Out Rousing Sanders Attack on Vapid Media Coverage BeanMusical Oct 2015 #213

When was the editing done? Before or after the JDPriestly Oct 2015 #218

Must have been after. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #258

If there was a conflict of intterest? JDPriestly Oct 2015 #259

Comcast owns NBC Oilwellian Oct 2015 #379

Thanks. I recognized my error and tried to correct my posts and apologize. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #382

So, let me see if I understand you jberryhill Oct 2015 #312

Link to debate footage on YouTube klook Oct 2015 #221

I know, right? jberryhill Oct 2015 #227

Has this been a lesson in socialism? Just as we have rights to our property, corporations has a Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #222

Time-Warner has to get their piece of the pie. Vinca Oct 2015 #233

I'm not going to watch anymore corporate sponsored debates. I know who I am voting for and liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #234

Scrolling along this thread shows Hillary supporters like the idea of censorship. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #241

Did you even WATCH the clip? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #282

Show me this "blessing" of CNN jberryhill Oct 2015 #309

Maybe it would help if watch the clip again without snickering. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #316

Him saying it doesn't make it so jberryhill Oct 2015 #436

Oh sure, I'm sure I've got in here in a panaflex folder somewhere. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #441

One might think.... jberryhill Oct 2015 #446

People in this thread also believe in fair use of a political event.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #451

What happened here jberryhill Oct 2015 #452

What part of "raw feed" confuses you? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #456

Mr. Ellis did not have access to that in the first place jberryhill Oct 2015 #458

Go back and listen to the video. (again) Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #459

Cognitive dissonance is popular here on DU onenote Oct 2015 #369

Shameful, isn't it? sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #254

Editing so as to choose camera angles? Babel_17 Oct 2015 #249

I stand with Bernie Sanders on this burning issue... brooklynite Oct 2015 #252

Me too... Historic NY Oct 2015 #281

On this issue, I'm with Bernie, too. MADem Oct 2015 #362

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #268

Shut down CNN for Theft of Democracy. (nt) stone space Oct 2015 #277

very hard to shut off Daily Motion PatrynXX Oct 2015 #284

CNN should be shut down Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #286

Why aren't you calling for Fox to be shut down? Sheepshank Oct 2015 #295

I already have Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #297

Good grief. Where have YOU been? Fox should be charged with TREASON. There is a saying sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #300

That'll show em censorship's wrong! NuclearDem Oct 2015 #310

Those pesky constitutional rights suck, don't they? nt Codeine Oct 2015 #354

some info on video fair use restorefreedom Oct 2015 #289

As someone who has been practicing copyright law for nearly 40 years onenote Oct 2015 #368

if that is really true restorefreedom Oct 2015 #397

I keep hearing about selective editing onenote Oct 2015 #405

there is nothing wrong with that particular clip imo restorefreedom Oct 2015 #406

The entire debate is available on youtube. onenote Oct 2015 #419

if that is soup to nuts restorefreedom Oct 2015 #429

what I understand happened with Bernie2016.tv onenote Oct 2015 #431

i can't understand restorefreedom Oct 2015 #433

oh good grief.... chillfactor Oct 2015 #299

If I were the candidates I would refuse to do another one jwirr Oct 2015 #324

10-1 odds Bernie will be at the next one...without complaining brooklynite Oct 2015 #335

The backlash to CNN is intense. If all the candidates agree, then yes, they and WE should boycott sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #344

Yeah, they are hiding under their desks right now for sure jberryhill Oct 2015 #349

You mean the Utube channel you confused with Bernie2016TV which you sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #447

Nice re-write, I see you didn't return to that thread jberryhill Oct 2015 #450

Coincidence that guy's name is John Ellis? Beaverhausen Oct 2015 #453

You still don't understand the difference between Bernie2016TV and eg, MY Utube channel. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #454

"nor am I interested in wasting any more time trying to help you understand" jberryhill Oct 2015 #457

What backlash is happening? Has the Sanders campaign weighed in on this pressing issue? Beaverhausen Oct 2015 #455

upcoming debates aspirant Oct 2015 #341

Debates should be in the Public Domain. Why aren't they? Why does CNN have a copyright to OUR sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #364

Campaign speeches have long been held to be copyrightable onenote Oct 2015 #366

This message was self-deleted by its author aspirant Oct 2015 #372

Where were you when MLK's estate won this lawsuit? jberryhill Oct 2015 #415

K&R Outrageous. nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #380

Who killed the First Amendment? I must have missed that. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #381

There are a few people here who get, or care, that when the Media was deregulated, our Electoral sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #416

when was the media not owned by private interests? onenote Oct 2015 #443

Oh it was owned by Corporations. But there were checks and balances on that ownership to protect sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #449

that's a nice narrative, but can you point to something specific in the 1996 Act that onenote Oct 2015 #461

Do you support Clinton's deregulation of the Media? Your question leads me to believe that you sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #462

Clinton's deregulation of the media? onenote Oct 2015 #482

When was a provision added the First Amendment saying that the media onenote Oct 2015 #432

CNN owns the rights to that video. RandySF Oct 2015 #383

K&R. And listen! This guy was pleading for help. delrem Oct 2015 #386

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #396

Here's what will happen.....nothing brooklynite Oct 2015 #398

And he would have been President, too, if not for those meddling CNN kids! randome Oct 2015 #407

And the dirty deeds done on behalf of Clinton continue. "Business, as usual". nt Zorra Oct 2015 #418

What dirty deeds? Sheepshank Oct 2015 #444

The M$M/DNC Fix is in. And they aren't even trying very hard to hide it. Fuck CNN! -nt- 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #439

the media mogals will claim artistic licence olddots Oct 2015 #445

For anyone concerned about "censorship" - CNN is now airing the debate AGAIN right now! George II Oct 2015 #469

470 replies and counting; wonder how long the faux outrage will last? brooklynite Oct 2015 #472