2016 Postmortem

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(62,325 posts) Thu Oct 15, 2015, 02:12 PM Oct 2015

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CNN Shuts Down Bernie2016TV!! Because They Aired Raw Video Of The Debate!! CNN Censored Them! [View all]

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Second Time A Big Media Corporation Tried to Silence Bernie's Channel. This is outrageous!

John Ellis is more angry, and rightfully so, than I have EVER seen him.

Here he explains what happened!

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Now we know for sure that Bernie Won This Debate.

They are deleting their own polls. Trying to hide any evidence that BERNIE WON THE DEBATE!

Every Online Media Poll. ..

Every Focus Group....

Every Statistic now available....

37,600 Individual Donations DURING the Debate to Bernie....

50,000 New Twitter Followers DURING the Debate....

Bernie the MOST SEARCHED on Google DURING the Debate....

All this and MORE says 'BERNIE SANDERS WON THAT DEBATE'

Now they KNOW people are outraged at their decision to ignore the facts.

But they can't control Social Media. YET!

So they SHUT DOWN Bernie2016TV because they can.

And this will only ensure that people see the manipulation and attempt to control the message.

We have a RIGHT to see the footage of all Political Debates.

Not the Censored Version Corporations want us to see!

THIS IS A DEMOCRACY!

Outrageous!

And hey, Corporate Media!

BERNIE SANDERS WON THAT DEBATE BY A LANDSLIDE!!

Adding this as it sums up who WON THE DEBATE:

to MadFloridian for finding it!

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CNN Shuts Down Bernie2016TV!! Because They Aired Raw Video Of The Debate!! CNN Censored Them! [View all] sabrina 1 Oct 2015 OP

OMG bernie can start his own channel somewhere else, like CNN did many yrs ago lol nt msongs Oct 2015 #1

hmm, you don't find this a little disturbing artislife Oct 2015 #5

Hillary supporter has a newfound love for the MSM they claim has been trying to destroy Hillary.. frylock Oct 2015 #235

Evolution going on all over the place! artislife Oct 2015 #246

The wind started blowing another direction AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #303

And newfound love for Wall St and even the Telecommunications Act of 1996. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #328

"Evolved" ?? Not a chance. More like weathervanes as their leader. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #350

lol FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #7

So could Hillary. But her husband's administration apparently took care of that when he sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #11

CNN is a cable company; who's airwaves did they buy up? brooklynite Oct 2015 #77

CNN Parent Company Is In The Bag For Hillary TrumanTown Oct 2015 #95

How much has Time Warner contributed to Clinton's campaign? I'll take a wild guess, being... George II Oct 2015 #189

Over $500,000. Can you say they love her? nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #351

It is illegal for a business entity to contribute to any candidate. Do you have verification....... George II Oct 2015 #358

opensecrets.org magical thyme Oct 2015 #399

Yawn.....Time Warner gave $25,000 out of their PAC. That's it! George II Oct 2015 #423

Really? You hope to sell that? It's simple to get around those regulations. rhett o rick Oct 2015 #417

Yes, it's simple to get around those regulations....Sander's has collected ~$30M on an average of.. George II Oct 2015 #471

The bottom line no matter how your try to rationalize it to make yourself feel better, rhett o rick Oct 2015 #473

"The bottom line no matter how your try to rationalize it to make yourself feel better".... George II Oct 2015 #474

And you will be so proud if that happens. If the billionaires manage to push their candidate rhett o rick Oct 2015 #475

How do you know what will or will not make me "so proud"? George II Oct 2015 #476

And why do you only ask questions? nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #478

I only do that with you because that's usually your M. O. .... George II Oct 2015 #479

I am sorry but if you won't even try to have a decent discussion, it's goodbye to you. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #480

That doesn't answer the question. RandySF Oct 2015 #385

That's what THIS attempt to deprive Americans of what should be a PUBLIC SERVICE will help us find sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #99

The "public service" was rendered on Tuesday night, and then repeated at 11PM (eastern) George II Oct 2015 #360

It wasn't even broadcast. People who can't afford cable couldn't see it. eom cprise Oct 2015 #421

But those online polls that show 80% saying that Sanders won are okay, even though those without... George II Oct 2015 #424

Non-sequitur. cprise Oct 2015 #426

You're bringing up stuff as you go along - if people don't have cable or internet, how..... George II Oct 2015 #428

Sabrina's post was about the public nature of the debate cprise Oct 2015 #430

Again, please tell me - if people don't have access to cable (satellite) TV or the internet.... George II Oct 2015 #435

Do you accept that the context of this discussion is cprise Oct 2015 #437

I'll answer your question after you answer mine, deal? George II Oct 2015 #440

But mine is neither rhetorical nor pedantic. cprise Oct 2015 #448

Those polls were of people who actually SAW the debate. But 'scientific' poll that said Hillary won sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #477

And how do you know that the people who voted "actually saw the debate"? brooklynite Oct 2015 #481

Of course ...cable has a direct OC1 hookup to satellites ...but they never use them. L0oniX Oct 2015 #422

"Her husband's administration apparently took care of that when he passed legislation..... George II Oct 2015 #86

Clinton had the bully pulpit. Had he fought passage of the bill, it would not have received JDPriestly Oct 2015 #192

Hillary Clinton didn't vote for the Telecommunications Act of 1996. George II Oct 2015 #206

Neither did I. Neither did you (I assume). sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #236

If Bernie gets elected, would you expect his wife to publically suggest a bill was a bad idea?? riversedge Oct 2015 #401

Should we expect honesty? Yes AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #483

She has a total of 6 or 7 years in Congress and 4 years as Secretary of State if you don't JDPriestly Oct 2015 #237

And the only reason she got the position as S.Of State, was because of the deal she made with Obama. YOHABLO Oct 2015 #374

Sorry, JDPriestly... Thespian2 Oct 2015 #314

Clinton didn't pass NAFTA either sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #229

So when Pres Clinton signed something bad, it was Congress's fault? LOL. rhett o rick Oct 2015 #353

I like what these people are doing to CNN Kalidurga Oct 2015 #204

The debate was rebroadcast minutes after the live broadcast ended and it also was... George II Oct 2015 #239

Our Democracy is not a Superbowl Game. stone space Oct 2015 #280

I'm sorry you shouldn't talk with Wall Street in your mouth Kalidurga Oct 2015 #306

LOL! n/t JimDandy Oct 2015 #313

FYI: Jury Results Live and Learn Oct 2015 #387

Where is the debate video now? JimDandy Oct 2015 #318

I watched in on Tuesday night, I have no idea where it is now.... George II Oct 2015 #322

That's what we're talking about. The debate has been edited into only the segments JimDandy Oct 2015 #326

Congrats! ThoughtCriminal Oct 2015 #363

Thanks! JimDandy Oct 2015 #409

Here you go, link to full debate, all 2 hrs 3mins. Fla Dem Oct 2015 #411

was the Kennedy/Nixon debate available a day or two after it happened? AlbertCat Oct 2015 #371

It's simply amazing to watch Democrats, such as yourself, CoffeeCat Oct 2015 #414

You think this is funny? demwing Oct 2015 #26

Think back to middle school elections for class president. Maedhros Oct 2015 #255

It might be a smart move to delete this. 99Forever Oct 2015 #28

BernieTV has/had its own You Tube channel. madfloridian Oct 2015 #64

Uh yeah. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2015 #226

CNN doesn't own our Democracy. The Democratic Debate is Public Property. (nt) stone space Oct 2015 #278

If I Ever Supported Hillary... billhicks76 Oct 2015 #400

I saw this earlier and I'm just as angry about it! haikugal Oct 2015 #2

M$M is losing control of the narrative! Cosmic Kitten Oct 2015 #3

Yup nt artislife Oct 2015 #4

The M$M is literally creating a memory hole Cosmic Kitten Oct 2015 #6

This will sound off topic artislife Oct 2015 #12

I loved TWOP - lots of people moved to Previously TV. n/t seaglass Oct 2015 #21

Not too off topic actually, I can see parallels Cosmic Kitten Oct 2015 #41

"eff the Palestine children" BeanMusical Oct 2015 #112

immediately after the debate cnn showed doctored,edited footage of the "damn emails" moment questionseverything Oct 2015 #33

M$M is a business. Cosmic Kitten Oct 2015 #47

They also cut out the beginning part where Bernie mentions the *MEDIA and the emails appalachiablue Oct 2015 #138

it definitely is not right questionseverything Oct 2015 #147

everything i have seen post debate censors cooper's question too questionseverything Oct 2015 #279

Techs and editors are very adept at adjusting film I know, even important Congressional inquiries appalachiablue Oct 2015 #283

I support Bernie - that guy is unhinged and wrong on the law jberryhill Oct 2015 #8

Wrong. The people have a right to the airwaves and especially to information sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #19

"I don't know the law" jberryhill Oct 2015 #87

+1 zappaman Oct 2015 #100

A Sanders supporter with sense and facts. Metric System Oct 2015 #120

Of course I did, I don't run around like people here who PRETEND to know things they know nothing sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #190

What they argue for is private ownership of the democratic process zeemike Oct 2015 #232

Doesn't CNN have a facebook page cosmicone Oct 2015 #111

They do, and they've been taking down critical posts as fast as they go up.There's a thread or 2 her hedda_foil Oct 2015 #136

CNN is so bad .... I'm sure the oligarchs are paying them to remove posts cosmicone Oct 2015 #141

Thanks. I picked it up from another DUer. Go ahead and use it if you'd like. hedda_foil Oct 2015 #146

that really is the right question questionseverything Oct 2015 #151

^^^ THIS ^^^ senz Oct 2015 #194

Maybe the question answers itself. hedda_foil Oct 2015 #263

Looks like CNN has been forced to respond to the massive outrage at their censorship. People POWER. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #470

CNN carried the debate LIVE and unedited. CNN is not "controlling" the message, and it's not.... George II Oct 2015 #180

You say that like you want it to be a "non-story." senz Oct 2015 #197

Nah, I don't care either way. But whose motives are you referring to? George II Oct 2015 #210

This message was self-deleted by its author Sheepshank Oct 2015 #244

I wonder, if you recognized the irony of telling a copywriter attorney he is "wrong"..... Sheepshank Oct 2015 #248

And I'm wondering, am I really seeing people on DU supporting the SELLING of our sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #251

Too bad you are twisting the law to suit your own narrative Sheepshank Oct 2015 #260

Value what you want. OUR DEMOCRACY IS NOT FOR SALE! I am so glad this has happened. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #262

Honoring a contractual agreement isn't selling off Democracy Sheepshank Oct 2015 #264

The DNC should never have signed a contract for political debates that gave CNN or any JDPriestly Oct 2015 #375

I don't disagree with anything you have said Sheepshank Oct 2015 #376

While CNN has the copyright, I think that Bernie's TV could argue that the debates are not JDPriestly Oct 2015 #378

I've been told there is a sunset. Sheepshank Oct 2015 #420

Do the Republicans have the same horrible deals. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #460

Don't know Sheepshank Oct 2015 #467

I'm with you, Sabrina Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #266

What should have been done and what was actually done are the mistakes...... Sheepshank Oct 2015 #270

Presidential debates should be public domain Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #275

Life is a crock of shoulds. staggerleem Oct 2015 #434

By any chance were those contracts between CNN and the jwirr Oct 2015 #319

foia questionseverything Oct 2015 #327

Okay, you are talking to an oldie here - translate please. jwirr Oct 2015 #333

freedom of information act questionseverything Oct 2015 #334

Thank you. jwirr Oct 2015 #337

FOIA requests are made to government agencies, not private entities JimDandy Oct 2015 #339

yea it is kind of a catch 22 situation questionseverything Oct 2015 #402

To what government agency should this request be sent? jberryhill Oct 2015 #345

"Mistakes" FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #427

I'm with Sabrina tblue Oct 2015 #377

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #265

I value the Constitution and its Amendments that abolished slavery Sheepshank Oct 2015 #269

You compare a bill of sale for a slave to a mortgage? demwing Oct 2015 #272

Boy at you Reaching...right after you compare Bernie to a slave bought and sold Sheepshank Oct 2015 #273

So you agree that not all contracts are created equally demwing Oct 2015 #276

I already mentioned that 4 posts up and that has nothing to do with honoring the contract Sheepshank Oct 2015 #293

Cable TV is not part of the airwaves. RandySF Oct 2015 #384

You have no "right" to CNN footage. JohnnyRingo Oct 2015 #388

CNN is not part of the public airwaves. Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2015 #403

Wrong. That debate, and all debates, are supposed to be presented as a public service, like PSAs. ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #30

Thank you, sometimes when I read some of the comments here I find it hard to sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #78

I completely understand how angry and frustrating it must be for you cosmicone Oct 2015 #118

that is the point cnn has heavily edited the footage questionseverything Oct 2015 #168

As for as I know, you had to pay to watch it online. That is unheard of in a democracy. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #174

I know huh? cosmicone Oct 2015 #177

Like I said, you clearly do not understand the concept of 'Democracy' sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #195

I do understand the concept of a "contract" cosmicone Oct 2015 #200

Oh definitely the preogatives of money MUST be considered! senz Oct 2015 #223

When you watch a football game or a baseball game on tv who owns the video? LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #389

That is the contract between the NFL or MLB with the broadcasters cosmicone Oct 2015 #390

That is what I am saying,the DNC should have kept the rights to it. The league of women voters and LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #391

All candidates signed off on the arrangement cosmicone Oct 2015 #392

No you didn't jberryhill Oct 2015 #193

With an explicit prohibition against rebroadcast n/t cosmicone Oct 2015 #203

Yep jberryhill Oct 2015 #209

THAT is unconstitutional. Thank you Now we have to start doing the research to find out why sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #294

Please inform us aspirant Oct 2015 #367

Which has what to do with this? jberryhill Oct 2015 #413

If you offer commentary before airing it, it is fair use Generic Other Oct 2015 #256

No, I watched it for free online as it was broadcast on CNN. TexasTowelie Oct 2015 #291

As long as you had some sort of internet access Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2015 #404

Just to clarify here... freebrew Oct 2015 #425

Thank you. The concept of Democracy v Corporatocricy is alien to a small segment of the Population. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #438

It was free for 75% of the US, then. Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2015 #463

It should be angering and frustrating for all Americans, cosmicone. senz Oct 2015 #199

Democracy is an alien concept for some people apparently. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #228

Well so far CNN has not been nationalized treestar Oct 2015 #231

I'm all for changing copyright law jberryhill Oct 2015 #91

Ok...so, the issue isn't copyright law here. The issue is whether or not the content of a ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #116

We should break up CNN into smaller local stations pronto n/t cosmicone Oct 2015 #142

That would be something to take up with the democratic party Egnever Oct 2015 #271

You just don't understand cosmicone Oct 2015 #122

You know what I found interesting jberryhill Oct 2015 #127

God did it for Bernie to cut evil Hillary out cosmicone Oct 2015 #139

Isaiah 45:15.... George II Oct 2015 #202

You know what I found interesting JimDandy Oct 2015 #355

Your snark tells me you have no understanding of the implications here. Those of us who care about sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #185

Of course it is a majority of people. Online polls prove it. cosmicone Oct 2015 #187

Very well said Sabrina! BeanMusical Oct 2015 #196

"If you are going to attack someone, it's better to know something about them first" Egnever Oct 2015 #274

Thanks for tamping down The conspiracy theorists redstateblues Oct 2015 #162

Another question. How was this handled in the past years? jwirr Oct 2015 #320

What past years? jberryhill Oct 2015 #442

They don't have ownership of the information, just the footage NobodyHere Oct 2015 #465

Political debates aren't entertainment owned by the networks. Matariki Oct 2015 #71

+1 daleanime Oct 2015 #93

"shouldn't be" and "are" are two different things jberryhill Oct 2015 #94

Good point Matariki Oct 2015 #97

What I found interesting jberryhill Oct 2015 #103

stop calling him ignorant questionseverything Oct 2015 #160

Can you point me to that? jberryhill Oct 2015 #165

I would assume political debates are considered educational, and exempt from copyright. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2015 #167

Where is the "educational" exemption from copyright? jberryhill Oct 2015 #169

Four Factor Determination Test Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2015 #285

How many of these cases have you done? jberryhill Oct 2015 #287

it is in the op posted questionseverything Oct 2015 #172

Yes, I listened to what he said jberryhill Oct 2015 #182

Bullshit jberryhill Oct 2015 #338

Who is the CNN contractual agreement with? DNC? And jwirr Oct 2015 #321

The entire idea that candidate debates in a democracy are copyrighted works is whack Fumesucker Oct 2015 #157

Doesn't the DNC own the rights to the broadcast? ybbor Oct 2015 #215

In a word "no" jberryhill Oct 2015 #217

Well that is fucking stupid on the DNC's part ybbor Oct 2015 #288

Unlike you, I was not present for the negotiations jberryhill Oct 2015 #290

I figured you were sitting next to her holding her purse ybbor Oct 2015 #292

But CNN misrepresents its video as an accurate and truthful video of the event. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #216

Can you please point me to the edited video you are talking about jberryhill Oct 2015 #224

Can you please point me to the debate video at all. JimDandy Oct 2015 #317

Ah, the "edited video" doesn't exist! jberryhill Oct 2015 #336

If CNN put it up on YouTube JimDandy Oct 2015 #342

This is the definition of poutrage. Oh noes why can't we violate copyright?!?!! Metric System Oct 2015 #9

Not to mention the channel wasn't "taken down." It's still there. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #14

So, we're just supposed to accept that a corporation can own the content of a presidential debate? ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #37

You're talking to somebody who wants to see publically-financed elections. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #49

Do you think it's right that CNN owns the rights to a presidential debate? Didn't these used to be ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #57

Reread my post and you'll see where I stand on how the election process should be funded and run. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #60

Until 4/2016 they can not post live events...what do you call that? I say censored. madfloridian Oct 2015 #40

mad is it just cnn events they can not post or all live events? questionseverything Oct 2015 #164

I think all live events, not sure. BernieTV will have more on it tonight. madfloridian Oct 2015 #176

please keep us informed questionseverything Oct 2015 #181

Censored and it makes me wonder what happens at that time? haikugal Oct 2015 #171

So Corporations now own presidnetial debates? Cosmic Kitten Oct 2015 #50

Thanks for the kick. The more people who get this information, the better. I count on people, such sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #20

Will Hillary supporters go away when Hillary loses? demwing Oct 2015 #44

If Hillary supporters "go away", Bernie has no chance of winning GE. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #52

I think (hope at least) he/she is talking about ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #113

Broadcasting a few clips of one poll. That's covered by Fair Use. backscatter712 Oct 2015 #119

What an odd reply. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #243

Here's another contract, valid as of the date it was written demwing Oct 2015 #267

So no contracts should ever be used? NobodyHere Oct 2015 #466

holy freakin crap restorefreedom Oct 2015 #10

A consequence of privatizing the debate. I doubt there is a lawsuit available. Thanks, DWS. cpompilo Oct 2015 #17

This certianly EMPHASIZES just how MUCH of an influence Corporations now have over pretty much sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #24

the elections are mostly run by corporations and insiders questionseverything Oct 2015 #140

Then after they ignore you they.......... nolabels Oct 2015 #13

The more attention they attract! Yes, exactly. How many more people are now going sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #29

Another concept one might remember nolabels Oct 2015 #70

we do know alot about them questionseverything Oct 2015 #191

The waterhole is metaphor for the place they figure they stick their hand in to turn the screws nolabels Oct 2015 #464

Talk about poutrage. China holds the same thought process of this person. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #15

Thank you for kicking the thread. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #31

You are very welcome. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #39

based on your comment downthread restorefreedom Oct 2015 #43

I think it is really shitty what the DNC has done. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #54

i would love to see LWV get back into this restorefreedom Oct 2015 #69

LWV never organized Primary debates... brooklynite Oct 2015 #88

yeah, i remember that line restorefreedom Oct 2015 #106

"taking money out of the pockets of workers" is delusional. Maybe stockholder value but I call bull TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #305

The debates should be held on the public airwaves. SamKnause Oct 2015 #16

This. nt. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #23

++1!! nt nc4bo Oct 2015 #25

Plus a zillion nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #34

Yes they should. And this is going demonstrate more than anything else, how sold out we sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #35

"Our own government" is no longer our own government, unfortunately. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #393

I agree. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #56

+ a trillion stage left Oct 2015 #58

Yeah! And they should put all 125 registered candidates on the same stage! brooklynite Oct 2015 #82

Sigh shenmue Oct 2015 #332

Precisely. Matariki Oct 2015 #102

You mean the way football games are? jberryhill Oct 2015 #105

plus 1 sam questionseverything Oct 2015 #178

Exactly! ctsnowman Oct 2015 #410

K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #18

Oh FFS... SidDithers Oct 2015 #22

Thats messed up what you wrote. darkangel218 Oct 2015 #27

Unbelievably messed up.... haikugal Oct 2015 #188

Even worst than that :( darkangel218 Oct 2015 #220

Yeah, well, we'll fight them where ever we find them... haikugal Oct 2015 #250

are you kidding? restorefreedom Oct 2015 #32

He did make a great case for Bernie. THIS is what his campaign is all about. They have PRIVATIZED sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #85

i think the truth restorefreedom Oct 2015 #104

+100%! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #394

Thanks for kicking the thread. We are VERY proud of Democratic Socialist candidate. He sure is sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #42

LOL, isn't that what we get mad a the Chinese Govt for doing? FSogol Oct 2015 #48

No, never as I recall. I'm mad they were given most favored status and that we exported TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #315

Thanks to the DNC our debates are OWNED by the Corporations Cosmic Kitten Oct 2015 #63

Like the right, the Third Way have an irrational fear of democratic socialism whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #67

Wow. kenfrequed Oct 2015 #110

That made me laugh; but, you should have said ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #121

Hey Sid, big election next monday, eh? BeanMusical Oct 2015 #148

LOL. JimDandy Oct 2015 #357

OMG! How could you write such a thing??? zappaman Oct 2015 #323

You don't have a visceral sense of American history, so I wouldn't expect you to understand. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #330

Not so much about CNN owning copyright. More about why jwirr Oct 2015 #331

These posts are just sad mythology Oct 2015 #36

No it's not a conspiracy. They gave him permission, then shut him down. No conspiracy, second sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #55

I assume this John Ellis is not related to the Bush family. nt grasswire Oct 2015 #38

Good one, grasswire Samantha Oct 2015 #101

Calling all DU ATTORNEYS! HELP BERNIE, PLEASE! in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #45

One of DU's attorneys, a Bernie supporter no less, jberryhill, is upthread. He says you are wrong.nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #80

But DU's non-attorneys say the Bernie supporting attorney, jberryhill is wrong ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #124

...and should there be any doubt.... jberryhill Oct 2015 #186

But you're STILL wrong!!!! 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #212

Oh, yes, well, this being the internet and all jberryhill Oct 2015 #302

I know the feeling ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #311

Has Bernie asked for help? Has he complained at all? brooklynite Oct 2015 #126

Cool more Bernie magic workinclasszero Oct 2015 #46

This has nothing to do with magic this bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #89

I couldn't understand why the debate wasn't on free Broadcast Television. stage left Oct 2015 #51

Because CNN was the highest bidder Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #347

Weren't they "shut down" by Viacom a few weeks back? Skinner Oct 2015 #53

They had CNN's permission to air, this is apparently about editing.. madfloridian Oct 2015 #61

They had CNN's permission to air, this is apparently about editing.. madfloridian Oct 2015 #59

We have a sham of a democracy. azmom Oct 2015 #62

This is very dangerous to our Democracy. Duval Oct 2015 #65

Tweeted this, Sabrina. stage left Oct 2015 #66

Thank you stage left. Yes it definitely is going to spark a huge discussion about privatizing sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #76

When that "huge discussion" starts, you'll let us know? brooklynite Oct 2015 #92

Kicking again stage left Oct 2015 #68

So is there any way or any lawyers out her in DU......................... turbinetree Oct 2015 #73

jberryhill is a lawyer and Bernie supporter. He commented upthread in #8. nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #81

Thanks........................ turbinetree Oct 2015 #219

Gosh, that guy is upset because CNN wants to protect it's copyrighted content? George II Oct 2015 #74

Hmmm... he has a point about what can be considered a company's Fawke Em Oct 2015 #75

The law has been clear on this for decades: political speeches are protected by copyright onenote Oct 2015 #370

The difference is that now the only forum its on Fawke Em Oct 2015 #373

This message was self-deleted by its author cal04 Oct 2015 #79

CNN = Corporate News Network. /NT tiredtoo Oct 2015 #83

You haven't met my brother-in-law. TexasTowelie Oct 2015 #298

And that's the same name tiredtoo Oct 2015 #408

Where is a list of advertisers on CNN I can cut out of my life like I did Sears in the 80's? jtuck004 Oct 2015 #84

He needs to contact Free Speech TV.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #90

good suggestion questionseverything Oct 2015 #198

We need to spread this all over the net all over bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #96

You think PBS doesn't own rights in its broadcasts either? jberryhill Oct 2015 #108

We donate to PBS. bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #125

Yeah, so? Go sell copies of Sesame Street and see how that works out for you jberryhill Oct 2015 #130

Sesame Street has nothing to do with a right to free unedited bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #230

Guess what; CNN aired the debate live as well brooklynite Oct 2015 #135

Yes, I agree. Tweet it, FB it, tell everyone you know in RL, wherever it can get sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #356

OMG!!! OMG!!! OMG!!! zappaman Oct 2015 #98

LOL! n/t cosmicone Oct 2015 #107

The copyright and exclusives are so asinine. cosmicone Oct 2015 #109

That isn't the salient point. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #128

No, CNN -DIDN'T- say it could be rebroadcast brooklynite Oct 2015 #132

Corporations also pay the cost of holding the debate cosmicone Oct 2015 #133

Those evil corporations! treestar Oct 2015 #240

Why should they make money off it? haikugal Oct 2015 #247

You know that actual people have to work to make that happen right? Beaverhausen Oct 2015 #257

Being condescending isn't helpful. haikugal Oct 2015 #261

Thanks. I only look young Beaverhausen Oct 2015 #296

Not really because it speaks to the issue which is free access to the debates. haikugal Oct 2015 #301

Not only that... jberryhill Oct 2015 #304

The debate had over 15 million viewers right? NobodyHere Oct 2015 #468

Stop it, stop it, stop it... Sheepshank Oct 2015 #238

Please dump the raw footage into torrent-land. PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #114

They own the video footage treestar Oct 2015 #150

I do not give a shit PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #153

What other laws treestar Oct 2015 #156

Unjust laws. PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #159

It's funny how Hillary supporters cannot see how corrupted the system. JRLeft Oct 2015 #115

As long as the corruption is working in favor of their candidate... BeanMusical Oct 2015 #158

It's the red pill vs blue pill choice again. JRLeft Oct 2015 #163

And that will stop the second she makes it to the GE frylock Oct 2015 #245

+100%! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #395

I put this on my FB it needs to go viral. bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #117

And people here on DU wonder why we Bernie supporters are wild and crazy? jalan48 Oct 2015 #123

CNN is in the bag for Clinton Bernblu Oct 2015 #129

Then why was her closing statement clipped by every Tivo owner who recorded it? jberryhill Oct 2015 #134

Because both the software is not sophisticated enough and they had lax recording practices TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #325

What I am saying is this: jberryhill Oct 2015 #329

It isn't comparable in any way for reasons I've just discussed and probably more. TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #343

Bernietv is a public good. No coorpration should have sole control Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #131

Ah, well, Ellen Degeneres will be fascinated to know her show is now "public domain" jberryhill Oct 2015 #137

I guess Bernies choice of underwear is of Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #143

"Ellen's show can go fuck itself for all I care" jberryhill Oct 2015 #155

My views are likely not the views of the majority. Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #173

K/R +++++++ SmittynMo Oct 2015 #179

Alright. After a near conniption fit followed by a few deep breaths I've come to the conclusion Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #201

Yes, we do expect people to be human jberryhill Oct 2015 #207

This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #214

You're right. I was being an insufferable asshole. I only saw the "hot seat" portion of the Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #307

If I was worried about getting my buttons pushed, I'd find something else to do with my time jberryhill Oct 2015 #308

Her show is not the debate. Really reaching on this it seems to me. TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #340

BernieTV is a private YOUTUBE channel created by that guy in the video. It is NOT associated with MADem Oct 2015 #359

After 125 posts of outrage... brooklynite Oct 2015 #145

We know that CNN, like Fox News works for the Republican party. We see it in interviews, questions, rladdi Oct 2015 #149

Why is the DNC scheduling debates on facsist cable Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #152

Let me guess BainsBane Oct 2015 #154

the fix is in and has been for years olddots Oct 2015 #161

Yes. The 1% didn't get filthy rich by playing by the rules. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #183

They play by the rules PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #184

After reading this thread Skidmore Oct 2015 #166

I agree workinclasszero Oct 2015 #205

Thread winner. Number23 Oct 2015 #208

+1 MadrasT Oct 2015 #211

No kidding. zappaman Oct 2015 #253

I'm laughing. So agree. juajen Oct 2015 #348

That's the most sensible thing I've seen Codeine Oct 2015 #352

Something about Bernies candidacy has really brought out the crazy in many of his supporters stevenleser Oct 2015 #361

Hmmm aspirant Oct 2015 #365

We can thank the Clinton 1996 Telecomm Act for the consolidation and power of the MSM. senz Oct 2015 #170

Of course they're backing the spouse of the candidate jfern Oct 2015 #225

If they are pulling these kind of dirty tricks (not only what's in the OP) this early... BeanMusical Oct 2015 #175

Cable News Edits Out Rousing Sanders Attack on Vapid Media Coverage BeanMusical Oct 2015 #213

When was the editing done? Before or after the JDPriestly Oct 2015 #218

Must have been after. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #258

If there was a conflict of intterest? JDPriestly Oct 2015 #259

Comcast owns NBC Oilwellian Oct 2015 #379

Thanks. I recognized my error and tried to correct my posts and apologize. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #382

So, let me see if I understand you jberryhill Oct 2015 #312

Link to debate footage on YouTube klook Oct 2015 #221

I know, right? jberryhill Oct 2015 #227

Has this been a lesson in socialism? Just as we have rights to our property, corporations has a Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #222

Time-Warner has to get their piece of the pie. Vinca Oct 2015 #233

I'm not going to watch anymore corporate sponsored debates. I know who I am voting for and liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #234

Scrolling along this thread shows Hillary supporters like the idea of censorship. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #241

Did you even WATCH the clip? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #282

Show me this "blessing" of CNN jberryhill Oct 2015 #309

Maybe it would help if watch the clip again without snickering. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #316

Him saying it doesn't make it so jberryhill Oct 2015 #436

Oh sure, I'm sure I've got in here in a panaflex folder somewhere. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #441

One might think.... jberryhill Oct 2015 #446

People in this thread also believe in fair use of a political event.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #451

What happened here jberryhill Oct 2015 #452

What part of "raw feed" confuses you? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #456

Mr. Ellis did not have access to that in the first place jberryhill Oct 2015 #458

Go back and listen to the video. (again) Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #459

Cognitive dissonance is popular here on DU onenote Oct 2015 #369

Shameful, isn't it? sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #254

Editing so as to choose camera angles? Babel_17 Oct 2015 #249

I stand with Bernie Sanders on this burning issue... brooklynite Oct 2015 #252

Me too... Historic NY Oct 2015 #281

On this issue, I'm with Bernie, too. MADem Oct 2015 #362

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #268

Shut down CNN for Theft of Democracy. (nt) stone space Oct 2015 #277

very hard to shut off Daily Motion PatrynXX Oct 2015 #284

CNN should be shut down Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #286

Why aren't you calling for Fox to be shut down? Sheepshank Oct 2015 #295

I already have Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #297

Good grief. Where have YOU been? Fox should be charged with TREASON. There is a saying sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #300

That'll show em censorship's wrong! NuclearDem Oct 2015 #310

Those pesky constitutional rights suck, don't they? nt Codeine Oct 2015 #354

some info on video fair use restorefreedom Oct 2015 #289

As someone who has been practicing copyright law for nearly 40 years onenote Oct 2015 #368

if that is really true restorefreedom Oct 2015 #397

I keep hearing about selective editing onenote Oct 2015 #405

there is nothing wrong with that particular clip imo restorefreedom Oct 2015 #406

The entire debate is available on youtube. onenote Oct 2015 #419

if that is soup to nuts restorefreedom Oct 2015 #429

what I understand happened with Bernie2016.tv onenote Oct 2015 #431

i can't understand restorefreedom Oct 2015 #433

oh good grief.... chillfactor Oct 2015 #299

If I were the candidates I would refuse to do another one jwirr Oct 2015 #324

10-1 odds Bernie will be at the next one...without complaining brooklynite Oct 2015 #335

The backlash to CNN is intense. If all the candidates agree, then yes, they and WE should boycott sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #344

Yeah, they are hiding under their desks right now for sure jberryhill Oct 2015 #349

You mean the Utube channel you confused with Bernie2016TV which you sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #447

Nice re-write, I see you didn't return to that thread jberryhill Oct 2015 #450

Coincidence that guy's name is John Ellis? Beaverhausen Oct 2015 #453

You still don't understand the difference between Bernie2016TV and eg, MY Utube channel. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #454

"nor am I interested in wasting any more time trying to help you understand" jberryhill Oct 2015 #457

What backlash is happening? Has the Sanders campaign weighed in on this pressing issue? Beaverhausen Oct 2015 #455

upcoming debates aspirant Oct 2015 #341

Debates should be in the Public Domain. Why aren't they? Why does CNN have a copyright to OUR sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #364

Campaign speeches have long been held to be copyrightable onenote Oct 2015 #366

This message was self-deleted by its author aspirant Oct 2015 #372

Where were you when MLK's estate won this lawsuit? jberryhill Oct 2015 #415

K&R Outrageous. nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #380

Who killed the First Amendment? I must have missed that. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #381

There are a few people here who get, or care, that when the Media was deregulated, our Electoral sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #416

when was the media not owned by private interests? onenote Oct 2015 #443

Oh it was owned by Corporations. But there were checks and balances on that ownership to protect sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #449

that's a nice narrative, but can you point to something specific in the 1996 Act that onenote Oct 2015 #461

Do you support Clinton's deregulation of the Media? Your question leads me to believe that you sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #462

Clinton's deregulation of the media? onenote Oct 2015 #482

When was a provision added the First Amendment saying that the media onenote Oct 2015 #432

CNN owns the rights to that video. RandySF Oct 2015 #383

K&R. And listen! This guy was pleading for help. delrem Oct 2015 #386

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #396

Here's what will happen.....nothing brooklynite Oct 2015 #398

And he would have been President, too, if not for those meddling CNN kids! randome Oct 2015 #407

And the dirty deeds done on behalf of Clinton continue. "Business, as usual". nt Zorra Oct 2015 #418

What dirty deeds? Sheepshank Oct 2015 #444

The M$M/DNC Fix is in. And they aren't even trying very hard to hide it. Fuck CNN! -nt- 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #439

the media mogals will claim artistic licence olddots Oct 2015 #445

For anyone concerned about "censorship" - CNN is now airing the debate AGAIN right now! George II Oct 2015 #469

470 replies and counting; wonder how long the faux outrage will last? brooklynite Oct 2015 #472