2016 Postmortem

DisgustipatedinCA

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218. Demonstrably false claim. I believe virtualobserver. I'm on this board. Next.

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I love it. The same weekend Sanders flip flops on gun control is the weekend Sanders supporters [View all] stevenleser Oct 2015 OP

Let me commend you on keeping cool on a clear attempt to bait you. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #1

We appreciate you demonstrating Bernie's electability Fumesucker Oct 2015 #2

Bernie lost my vote when he trashed the President... chillfactor Oct 2015 #6

He did not trash him Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #29

And said they were friends and he like him very much. bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #403

When did he trash him? Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #41

For one, when he suggested primarying Obama. n/t murielm99 Oct 2015 #95

Boom! sheshe2 Oct 2015 #173

Why would anyone primary a good Democrat!!! MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #207

Whoomp! There it is! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #210

Yup.... sheshe2 Oct 2015 #222

"Not sure I trust your assessments." MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #261

Hillary never voted for a Republican that we know. She wasn't eligible in a Presidential til 1972. Zen Democrat Oct 2015 #289

The video headline is incorrect, or at least incomplete - BACK IN THE 1980s! In fact... George II Oct 2015 #300

To create a dialogue from the LEFT Time_Lord Oct 2015 #286

It did NOT make sense at the time. murielm99 Oct 2015 #323

You know, that seems to me to be one of those statements that often gets twisted around to read PatrickforO Oct 2015 #338

I have made it clear that I am not a Bernie supporter. murielm99 Oct 2015 #407

The point of living in a democracy is to have as many choices as possible. Exilednight Oct 2015 #392

Neva happened! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #305

Wow, then you must not be aware of how H is artislife Oct 2015 #131

Trashing? Bernie must be pretty desperate sending his supporters out to... Walk away Oct 2015 #299

Well, in fairness, Walk Away is just as correct in making this assertion as PatrickforO Oct 2015 #339

What does that have to do with Bernie promising not to attack his opponent.... Walk away Oct 2015 #359

"he condones people like you stretching the truth and spreading it all over the internet?" WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #398

I represent Bernie Sanders as much as you represent Hillary Clinton. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #397

LOL!!! Oh yeah,...Hillary NEVER trashed Obama! Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #166

Congratulations on joining the not at all suspiciously large group of current DU Hillary supporters merrily Oct 2015 #238

Well isn't that special? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #249

Cool story, bro (nt) jack_krass Oct 2015 #401

So many of us are relived to have Bernie demonstrate Sheepshank Oct 2015 #226

Still hanging onto that one? treestar Oct 2015 #263

Do you know longer believe that Hillary lied? And, if so why. Luminous Animal Oct 2015 #3

I answered that in my endorsement. So what about this Sanders flip flop? stevenleser Oct 2015 #4

No you did not answer that in you endorsement. Do you still believe that Hillary lied. Luminous Animal Oct 2015 #14

Yes, I answered that in my endorsement. Now what about this Bernie flip flop? nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #17

Do you still believe Hillary lied . Quote that passage in your endorsement. Luminous Animal Oct 2015 #20

Sure. Once I do that will you repudiate Bernie for flip flopping? nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #21

This will be fun. Luminous Animal Oct 2015 #27

So is that a yes or a no? nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #32

Fox tactic: if I agree to prove that what I claim is true, will you promise to make claims you know DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #48

You mean like when Bernie is on Fox? stevenleser Oct 2015 #50

Deflect much? Any person with integrity, especially one who considers themselves a political pundit, cui bono Oct 2015 #133

What simple question is that? nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #135

Luminous Animal's question that s/he has had to repeat multiple times: cui bono Oct 2015 #137

And I have repeated my answer several times. I responded to that in my endorsement. stevenleser Oct 2015 #139

So quote it. LA says it's not in there. Why can't you provide proof? cui bono Oct 2015 #143

Here it is... stevenleser Oct 2015 #144

"Why was it so difficult for you to figure this out? " cui bono Oct 2015 #148

I don't like the term flip-flop, unless it's done for political reasons passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #221

"I began to suspect my evaluation of her was incorrect." frylock Oct 2015 #321

That doesn't address whether you still think that she lied. Vattel Oct 2015 #351

Being graceful in defeat doesn't negate what you thought she lied about prior. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #390

Well, the posters above are deflecting treestar Oct 2015 #264

Fox tactic: ignore the question you don't want to answer; then make a counter accusation. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #26

You mean like when Bernie is on Fox? stevenleser Oct 2015 #31

Jealous that he's getting more air time? ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2015 #40

Oh no, I support him going on Fox just as I supported him going to Liberty University. stevenleser Oct 2015 #46

Personally, I'm loving the heck out of this kerfluffle Aerows Oct 2015 #70

A lot of her supporters know she's lying jfern Oct 2015 #73

As am I. And you have so many incorrect items in your post its hard to get to them all. stevenleser Oct 2015 #78

Talk to me on Tuesday night, after the debate. Aerows Oct 2015 #81

It will have to be Wednesday, but absolutely! stevenleser Oct 2015 #86

Excellent, we can continue this conversation then! Aerows Oct 2015 #91

Check it out. bvf Oct 2015 #246

Cool. I would love to hear what the people at the event ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #269

THIS is a (mostly) intellectually-honest debate tactic. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #132

I'm so glad you approve. Have you apologized for being on both sides of five issues that I listed stevenleser Oct 2015 #140

Intellectually-dishonest debate tactics 24 (Innuendo) and 25 (Insinuation) DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #176

at least he agrees to go on TV Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #47

See my #46. nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #59

Rather disingenuous treestar Oct 2015 #266

Might have something to do with drawing a paycheck leftupnorth Oct 2015 #316

What is wrong with being paid for one's time? treestar Oct 2015 #346

You're on the right track! leftupnorth Oct 2015 #348

Like the question in the OP? treestar Oct 2015 #265

If you can show a flip flop on Sanders' part, you might have a point. But you cannot. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #267

How delusional and self important does someone think they are morningfog Oct 2015 #252

show us exactly where Sanders flip flopped please both your May article and the link from that say azurnoir Oct 2015 #52

smear Sanders as ProGun AlbertCat Oct 2015 #130

it seems the flinging never stops but nothing ever sticks either azurnoir Oct 2015 #141

How can his his position not changing be called a flip flop? Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #5

That you are trying to claim that is hilarious!!! stevenleser Oct 2015 #8

that was 2013... chillfactor Oct 2015 #10

The OP was Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #25

that was 2013... AlbertCat Oct 2015 #159

Not only that, he's going back to 1990, which was even before passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #235

+1 I wish everyone would just ignore his false accusations and let his posts (and other writings) Live and Learn Oct 2015 #388

Quit lying, Sanders voted for an assault weapon ban 2.5 years ago jfern Oct 2015 #7

and this is 2015... chillfactor Oct 2015 #15

The OP said this weeekend Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #28

You know when Hillary lost my vote? When she voted for the Iraq War. nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #389

He voted for an assault weapons ban in 1994 as well. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #37

So the OP thinks it's a huge deal jfern Oct 2015 #42

Well he does get paid by Fox. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #43

Figures jfern Oct 2015 #49

Ouch Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #51

No the OP wants others to think that also note the OP also writes for OpEd news azurnoir Oct 2015 #352

But he voted against the Brady Bill before that treestar Oct 2015 #296

Because the Brady bill contained more than an assault weapons ban. jeff47 Oct 2015 #310

It would be a flip flop... thesquanderer Oct 2015 #315

This is how it goes for BS supporters.. it's ok for him to change his mind. It's not ok for you or Cha Oct 2015 #9

And this is how it goes for Clinton supporters: Scootaloo Oct 2015 #45

Bernie and Trump are both hate? passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #236

You mean like how you once called Hillary "morally depraved"? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #82

Wow, talk about a flip flop davidpdx Oct 2015 #99

When HC supporters evolve they REALLY evolve. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #103

just like someone else I know, mmmmmm Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #109

From "hilary is morally depraved" to host of the Hillary Clinton Group. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #400

And they seem to start lying themselves, too jfern Oct 2015 #106

Haha!!!! Flip-Flop 840high Oct 2015 #125

Love you Cha, always have. But you need to respond to post #82...please. nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #284

You got that right, Cha treestar Oct 2015 #297

When did Bernie change his position on guns? HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #11

He didn't, this is just more Fox news style journalism from Steve. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #38

Probably before the 1992 election jfern Oct 2015 #44

many many years ago Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #61

Bernie marched 50 years ago Sheepshank Oct 2015 #231

they didn't like you even before Sanders JI7 Oct 2015 #12

Not only that, Bernie has been on Fox a bunch of times too. I'm waiting to hear those folks who stevenleser Oct 2015 #16

Who cares if he's been on FOX? HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #24

A lot of people apparently. I get criticized about it frequently from some folks here. stevenleser Oct 2015 #30

There it is again upthread in #26. A subtle dig on my going on Fox. nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #39

I read it, and I think you misinterpreted. HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #54

Nope, it's a criticism for going on Fox, and a thinly veiled one. stevenleser Oct 2015 #55

So thinly veiled that it doesn't actually exist. HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #60

Well, you havent interacted here much so its understandable you dont know these things. stevenleser Oct 2015 #65

Intellectually-dishonest debate tactic 3d and 3e DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #89

Still waiting for your admission of being on both sides of three issues. Starting with stevenleser Oct 2015 #90

Intellectually-dishonest debate tactic #2: changing the subject DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #92

Nope, not changing the subject. The subject is duplicity and you are on record three times as stevenleser Oct 2015 #94

Intellectually-dishonest debate tactic #5: false premise DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #105

And Nance's #108 below. Do you repudiate Sanders for attacking the Democratic Party and then stevenleser Oct 2015 #116

Back to #2: changing the subject. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #123

And we have a #5. I'm supposed to answer all your accusations but you don't answer mine. stevenleser Oct 2015 #124

Order of operations, Steven. This can end if you want it to, but I told you... DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #128

And you prove my point. Do you need a list, because there are a lot of them. stevenleser Oct 2015 #136

Partial credit. You will get SOME responses. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #170

Lots of intellectually dishonest and weasel responses stevenleser Oct 2015 #182

Steve out, huh? Whatever. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #190

Jury results... SidDithers Oct 2015 #277

Are you paid to appear on Fox? leftupnorth Oct 2015 #295

+1 cui bono Oct 2015 #156

+1000 for +1'ing Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #188

When you've been on DU a long time treestar Oct 2015 #298

So you don't get paid? artislife Oct 2015 #36

Yes, Steve, we all get that you've finally bvf Oct 2015 #214

LOL, so pointing out this hypocrisy upsets you? Good. stevenleser Oct 2015 #217

"Amused" would be a better word. bvf Oct 2015 #229

... beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #220

Yep! There's one squirrel that's bound to be bvf Oct 2015 #243

Lets just say Bernie makes Fox look worse! Get it now? nt Logical Oct 2015 #326

I agree with your original assessment of Hillary. Great article! virtualobserver Oct 2015 #13

Great, so since you think so much of my opinion, you will agree with my endorsement of Hillary. stevenleser Oct 2015 #18

your original article was so convincing and quite frankly, irrefutable, that my opinion is unchanged virtualobserver Oct 2015 #22

As are all my writings. Welcome to the Hillary camp!!! stevenleser Oct 2015 #23

Thanks to your article.....you must mean the "Hillary is a liar" camp virtualobserver Oct 2015 #34

If you are a true journalist as I believe you are Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #35

So here is a question for you. If it is what he has been saying all along, why the need for the stevenleser Oct 2015 #62

How is it it took me under 5 minutes to research this Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #69

You didn't answer the questions. If this is what he has believed all along why stevenleser Oct 2015 #74

His voting record on the AWB is perfectly consistent. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #272

Where is the contradiction? thesquanderer Oct 2015 #292

THIS is what you are hanging your credibility on? jeff47 Oct 2015 #329

re: "Why is the announcement any kind of a big deal?" thesquanderer Oct 2015 #293

It was funny and spot on! frylock Oct 2015 #322

Have you written anything else? bvf Oct 2015 #232

DU has a strange way of recognizing achievement. ucrdem Oct 2015 #19

Ooooohhh. "journalist posting. artislife Oct 2015 #33

Did you see this "article"?: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #53

The black community should trust the police, the police are only there to help Fumesucker Oct 2015 #63

But he's a Hillary supporter, so he can't be whitesplaining jfern Oct 2015 #66

"Bernie marched for civil rights." WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #402

Right? And he wonders why we don't trust him on DU? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #68

Just read it in the other OP thread artislife Oct 2015 #75

true Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #84

I never considered Steve a journalist so my opinion on them hasn't been altered by what he wrote. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #93

Just for you artislife Oct 2015 #98

Awww... beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #100

Come rob me, rape me, or kill me! (Leser, taking on the voice of the black community, in his view) DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #76

*chortle nt artislife Oct 2015 #88

I shudder to think of what advice he would have for us... beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #101

It wasn't advice so much as blaming women for child support. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #110

Well why should he let the other Fox news pundits have all the fun? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #117

This Article stinks of blaming the victims and is all around offensive garbage. U of M Dem Oct 2015 #412

Good post, I completely agree with you. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #415

That's why he got the title of purported journalist. U of M Dem Oct 2015 #417

You should do more research on Bernies stance on the AWB aikoaiko Oct 2015 #56

.. Purveyor Oct 2015 #57

You changed your mind eight years ago? Wow. What'd she do to make you change it so soon? cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #58

as a journalist please run a correction Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #64

I've already responded to you on this upthread. nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #67

Man, You should have just taken a few days off. nt Snotcicles Oct 2015 #72

400 seems about fair, considering. nt Electric Monk Oct 2015 #349

You have lost any respect that I had for you Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #77

LOL, I'm sure I'll get over it eventually... yup, there it is. I'm over it. See my #74 above. stevenleser Oct 2015 #79

but your OP is still a lie Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #83

Nope, it's not and my #74 shows have correct it is. nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #87

That sentence does not even make any sense. Nt Logical Oct 2015 #409

He won't but thanks for Correcting the Record. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #71

It makes him look bad Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #80

He obviously doesn't care about his credibility anymore. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #113

I know Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #115

Hey, give the poor guy a break. bvf Oct 2015 #274

This post #74 business is also meant to deceive. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #147

Hillary supporters can't help but lie lie lie lie lie jfern Oct 2015 #85

The same weekend??? Autumn Oct 2015 #96

as in a lie Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #97

They are scared shitless that she might accidentally Aerows Oct 2015 #107

It makes no sense. No one but those of us on DU are going to see this horse shit and we Autumn Oct 2015 #121

I quit trying to make sense of politics. Aerows Oct 2015 #129

Or the more straightforward explanation Prism Oct 2015 #355

I don't think she knows 840high Oct 2015 #127

Wow, 12 people reced this total pants on fire lie? jfern Oct 2015 #102

I know, sad Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #104

And they complain about lies from the media? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #120

They don't care about facts jfern Oct 2015 #122

I hope more of them rec it, the hypocrisy is hillaryous! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #126

I see 44 recs, people who aren't felling the "Bern" and don't see Sanders ability to throw a stone uponit7771 Oct 2015 #366

The OP is a total pants on fire lie jfern Oct 2015 #369

So Sanders doesn't have an overall pro-gun stance all his career?! tia uponit7771 Oct 2015 #371

He voted to ban assault weapons in 1994 jfern Oct 2015 #372

Not the question, overall... has Sanders had a pro - gun stance for most if not all his career?! tia uponit7771 Oct 2015 #374

The NRA gave him a D- jfern Oct 2015 #376

Still not the question, has Sanders had a pro-gun stance most if not all his political carreer... uponit7771 Oct 2015 #377

As I said, he voted against the assault weapons ban in 1994 jfern Oct 2015 #378

For me ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #108

Excellent point and that is only one of many attacks he has made against the Democratic Party. stevenleser Oct 2015 #111

They won't. NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #154

At least that a true one and not a lie Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #112

I proved my OP in #74 above. So both are true. nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #119

No, you lied. Again. But hey, it pays well. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #311

ya he said it 25 years ago - seems some here are really digging :) azurnoir Oct 2015 #418

LOl Skinner said something about that azurnoir Oct 2015 #149

I'm sorry, but ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #172

That's a predictably hateful sentiment but I prefer Skinner's reasonable pov. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #180

Obviously I will be voting for the DEMOCRAT ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #187

The irony here is watching you complain about the behaviour of the other people. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #193

As I set my watch by the fact ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #200

Making sense? Like hating on DU 24/7 and still hanging around? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #206

Why am I here? NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #208

I'm asking you. If I hated DU and it's members that much I'd leave. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #213

I wil post what I want, where I want, and when I want. NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #223

Bullshit. You're broadbrushing and attacking Dems who support Bernie. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #227

Projecting again. n/t NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #230

Holy shut. Party over principle. Hear ya loud and clear Nance. N/t yodermon Oct 2015 #347

There is nothing "principled" ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #350

so a guy that has won the Democratic nomination in his home state isn't good enough still azurnoir Oct 2015 #354

Well, apparently BS thinks ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #356

yep I guess he's just not a good company man is he? azurnoir Oct 2015 #419

Is it a true flip-flop if the underlying belief is unchanged? thesquanderer Oct 2015 #290

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2015 #365

Not a shock you think our party is above being insulted. LOL nt Logical Oct 2015 #410

I think our party ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #413

Want a list of dems who have complained about the party??? Really??? Nt Logical Oct 2015 #414

I know a lot of Dems ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #416

Oh FFS are you being silly. Nt Logical Oct 2015 #420

You ought to self delete this thread before it gets even Purveyor Oct 2015 #114

I think you should self delete this response. I proved my point in #74 above. stevenleser Oct 2015 #118

And here I thought you had me on ignore... Purveyor Oct 2015 #157

Then why did you make a direct post to someone you thought would not see it? treestar Oct 2015 #301

To test a hypothesis that was, as a result, proven? Yes, I believe so. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #318

Does something make you someone whose opinion matters? xfundy Oct 2015 #134

You mean besides the 650+ thread started yesterday by people discussing my opinion? stevenleser Oct 2015 #138

650? Wow, your opinion matters, apparently. xfundy Oct 2015 #241

Honest answer -- I don't give a shit about the specifics of his position on gun control Armstead Oct 2015 #142

You failed to state what this supposed 'flip flop' is. cui bono Oct 2015 #145

Actually, I did, and I clarified it in #74 above. nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #146

I do not see it in the OP. The OP is about Sanders supporters. cui bono Oct 2015 #150

It's all there. Anger? No absolutely not. I love this. This is bread and butter to me. stevenleser Oct 2015 #151

I really don't see it. n/t cui bono Oct 2015 #153

This proves that content doesn't matter to you artislife Oct 2015 #320

There's a big difference between nailing you and needling you. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #152

And it all helps me either way. My phone will be ringing off the hook for radio and tv appearances stevenleser Oct 2015 #155

It's nice of you to reveal your priorities. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #161

Nope, not my priorities. I didn't create the OP that started all this. But I am grateful for it. stevenleser Oct 2015 #164

If you want a gig by playing "kick the hippie" that's up to you. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #171

That's your third attempt to move the goalposts to attack me. You've now positioned them on Pluto stevenleser Oct 2015 #174

You endorsed Hillary. Do you really believe she's a Liberal? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #179

And a fourth goalpost move. Now they are on Proxima Centauri. nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #186

Did you or did you not endorse Hillary? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #196

be sure to post a schedule of your appearances here on DU grasswire Oct 2015 #162

Me either! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #165

got popcorn? grasswire Oct 2015 #168

Sure do, butter and kettle corn. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #169

woo woo! grasswire Oct 2015 #178

ZOMG! I love dark chocolate! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #181

LOLOL grasswire Oct 2015 #183

I should add...... grasswire Oct 2015 #184

So true! And good of Steve to provide the entertainment! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #185

No time for that. High-powered podcast agents from all over are lighting up his phone. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #202

lol ibegurpard Oct 2015 #335

Lol, you love self promoting more than anyone I know. Nt Logical Oct 2015 #411

More crap stirring. SoapBox Oct 2015 #158

Pointing out folks changing their mind is crap stirring? I see. Please link to me stevenleser Oct 2015 #160

Seems to be what he does. senz Oct 2015 #225

Pshaw! Only in US politics... longship Oct 2015 #163

Hey, I'm right there with you. But there is a 660+ post thread criticizing me for changing my stevenleser Oct 2015 #167

So why don't you take the proper position then? longship Oct 2015 #175

Nope, it's irony and it is a legitimate tool to show people the error of their ways. stevenleser Oct 2015 #189

I chided you because I respect you. longship Oct 2015 #197

That doesn't work. You know, back when the Greek civilization was at it's height stevenleser Oct 2015 #199

Well, at least please stop playing the flip-flop card. longship Oct 2015 #209

Actually, the OP just pointed out that you said that Hillary is a liar virtualobserver Oct 2015 #191

And it's also a fact that Bernie changed his mind on several things and has gone on conservative stevenleser Oct 2015 #192

Why should I care if you changed your mind? virtualobserver Oct 2015 #194

You tell me. You keep mentioning it to me and posting about it. nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #195

I keep mentioning that you called Hillary a liar.....you outlined the reasons in great detail virtualobserver Oct 2015 #203

LOL, there is no one on this board who believes you on that. Nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #211

First you call Hillary a liar.....now you are calling me a liar. virtualobserver Oct 2015 #215

Demonstrably false claim. I believe virtualobserver. I'm on this board. Next. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #218

I believe that poster since I've never seen them lie. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #219

Well said! nt treestar Oct 2015 #302

Oh really Truprogressive85 Oct 2015 #177

"This is bread and butter to me. slipslidingaway Oct 2015 #198

Yes, it is. stevenleser Oct 2015 #204

Exactly and why we should not pay attention to your changing principles and let ... slipslidingaway Oct 2015 #212

Blame the poster and commenter of the huge OP, I had nothing to do with it stevenleser Oct 2015 #216

i think you are making people even more upset by your not seeming to really care JI7 Oct 2015 #201

Well, you can't blame a guy for showing folks that when they are trying to throw lemons at you stevenleser Oct 2015 #205

My dear Steve.....I am jealous. I was promised a thread exposing my plagiarism. .... msanthrope Oct 2015 #233

Wow that is priceless!!! stevenleser Oct 2015 #421

You do Steve....you do....nt msanthrope Oct 2015 #422

He cared so little he had to start a new OP about it. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #399

he likes the attention and enjoys ridiculing JI7 Oct 2015 #406

LOL, he cares. This is "bread and butter" for him as a *cough* journalist... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #408

This is the first time I have ever heard of Steve Lesser ALBliberal Oct 2015 #224

I'm pretty sure then, you've heard of everyone else Sheepshank Oct 2015 #237

That's false. His opinion remains the same. Fearless Oct 2015 #228

One professional to another Steven, TM99 Oct 2015 #234

Here is the good news - Leser will not affect one single vote, here at DU. djean111 Oct 2015 #253

The "flip-flop" meme Flying Squirrel Oct 2015 #239

Please remind me when Sanders was NOT for a ban on assault weapons? merrily Oct 2015 #240

"Eight years ago would make it October 2007. You're welcome." beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #242

That required a massive amount of research and thinking, but I was happy to be of service. merrily Oct 2015 #244

You should be a journalist! You're already better at fact checking than Steve! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #245

Thank you. It was more subtraction than fact-checking, but merrily Oct 2015 #247

But you also provided proof that Bernie didn't flip flop. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #248

Awwww, thank you. merrily Oct 2015 #250

It's definitely safer in there. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #251

Wow. All these compliments. I am SO not used to them on DU. merrily Oct 2015 #255

You are no Bernie Sanders, you are no candidate, morningfog Oct 2015 #254

Locking thread. TexasTowelie Oct 2015 #256

Takes a lot of hubris to accuse Sanders of flip-flopping. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #257

BOOM!!!!! workinclasszero Oct 2015 #258

I have always found unquestioning party loyalty leftupnorth Oct 2015 #259

+1 merrily Oct 2015 #270

As a dispassionate observer it is my considered opinion Mr. Leser has acquitted himself admirably DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #260

LOL! merrily Oct 2015 #271

He brings a certain je ne sais quoi to this board that I can not help but notice./nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #275

You said Isaac Newton foresaw Steve Leser's greatness, and wrote about it. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #309

My raison d'etre is to be half the man Steve Leser is DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #324

Why? artislife Oct 2015 #327

Thank you for your kind words. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #332

Sometimes, when I read your words artislife Oct 2015 #367

Thank you again... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #393

Unlocked thread. TexasTowelie Oct 2015 #262

Why in the world would this have ever been locked in the first place? nt boston bean Oct 2015 #280

Perhaps you do love it, and that's not good. You and others like to trade in extreme verbiage which Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #268

'I just can't understand those fucking smokers, how could anyone ever smoke?' Aerows Oct 2015 #343

Ignore them Evergreen Emerald Oct 2015 #273

Yes the pesky truth Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #279

Are you quoting Hillary ? Is it a statement about you? Or another soliloquy of diversion ? orpupilofnature57 Oct 2015 #276

DU rec for pissing off the right people, again....nt SidDithers Oct 2015 #278

Good Observation Gothmog Oct 2015 #281

No, it is a lie. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #283

An assault weapons ban is not "strict gun control". Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #282

Kick & highly recommended! William769 Oct 2015 #285

People who have been wrong about Obama over and over and over ... JoePhilly Oct 2015 #287

And how often they claimed they supported Obama treestar Oct 2015 #306

Also very true ... they claim they were his most bestest supporters ... JoePhilly Oct 2015 #307

Actually, Steve called Obama a liar. And unlike the OP, I have evidence. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #312

I don't understand the constant efforts of some on DU TeddyR Oct 2015 #288

It is to point out to them that some of their "criticism" of Hillary treestar Oct 2015 #303

Except this is attempting to do that by lying. jeff47 Oct 2015 #330

To answer your question, it comes down to honesty and authenticity. Exilednight Oct 2015 #394

Bernie Sanders, Gun Nut workinclasszero Oct 2015 #304

The headline, at least, is a lie thesquanderer Oct 2015 #313

What (or who) is a "gun nut"? TeddyR Oct 2015 #319

His overall record on gun control has been consistent; he's against it. There are too many votes uponit7771 Oct 2015 #368

If he was against gun control TeddyR Oct 2015 #387

who are you? 2pooped2pop Oct 2015 #291

He's a "journalist" who appears on Fox, usually as "the liberal". jeff47 Oct 2015 #331

oh so almost anybody can endorse someone? 2pooped2pop Oct 2015 #395

IOKIYB Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #294

It is truly amazing that such lies about our candidates leftupnorth Oct 2015 #308

Steve has called Clinton, Obama, and Sanders liars. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #314

Heh!! ismnotwasm Oct 2015 #317

Bernie Sanders has proven honesty and integrity. You? 99Forever Oct 2015 #325

Wow this is creepy and uncalled for. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #337

I neither "like" nor "don't like" him. 99Forever Oct 2015 #358

Why would I not understand? hrmjustin Oct 2015 #360

If you did understand... 99Forever Oct 2015 #361

Pointless even trying with you. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #363

jury results marym625 Oct 2015 #342

Thanks Mary. 99Forever Oct 2015 #357

no, you're the best marym625 Oct 2015 #362

Yes, he voted for legisilation that supported the Minutemen but lets see him be honest about why!? uponit7771 Oct 2015 #370

Why? Please cite links to his reasons for voting for this legislation, tia! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #379

I've never had a problem with anybody changing their mind...about anything. I may point out... BlueJazz Oct 2015 #328

Hear, hear. forest444 Oct 2015 #334

Thank you, forest. BlueJazz Oct 2015 #340

You bet. forest444 Oct 2015 #344

Tsk. Tsk. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #333

Uh, these links are not mutually exclusive. PatrickforO Oct 2015 #336

no one criticized you for changing your mind. marym625 Oct 2015 #341

42 recs for what has been long pointed out to be pants on fire lying? jfern Oct 2015 #345

Sanders overall positions on guns is well known, he's for them. voted against the Brady Bill, that's uponit7771 Oct 2015 #373

He voted against the assault weapons ban in 1994 jfern Oct 2015 #375

Obviously his overall position is pro-gun control, anyone who thinks he's a gun nut is insane. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #380

Well there's this also, .... link inside uponit7771 Oct 2015 #381

Cite proof that "his OVERALL career he's been against gun control". Tia! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #383

You can look up his votes and stances from beginning to end yourself, not playing that game... uponit7771 Oct 2015 #384

Nope, you made the claim so it's up to you to back it up. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #385

There's a lot of talk about trashing on this thread. I generally trash the Bernie vs. Hillary valerief Oct 2015 #353

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Oct 2015 #364

A True Progressive in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #382

Depends on whether he's flipping or flopping, doesn't it? stone space Oct 2015 #386

He didn't vote TeddyR Oct 2015 #391

asdf stone space Oct 2015 #396

404 error: Honest punditry not found. Electric Monk Oct 2015 #404

Unk...unk.... MrMickeysMom Oct 2015 #405