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Sliceo

(39 posts) Sat Oct 10, 2015, 10:39 AM Oct 2015

Sanders in July: Many are disappointed at Obama, who is weak and flip flops too much [View all]

Speaking at a radio show hosted by Thom Hartman in July,

"There are millions of Americans who are deeply disappointed in the president, who believe that with regard to Social Security and a number of other issues, he said one thing as a candidate, and is doing something very much else as a president, who cannot believe how weak he has been — for whatever reason — in negotiating with the Republicans. And there’s deep disappointment,” he said.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/sanders-obama-supporters-214636#ixzz3oAyD4eY5

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Sanders in July: Many are disappointed at Obama, who is weak and flip flops too much [View all] Sliceo Oct 2015 OP

The RW really, really wants anyone but Clinton to win, don't they? Their fear is my hope. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #1

LOL! HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #20

That makes no sense at all Sheepshank Oct 2015 #142

Fred, it must be tiring to get your ass kicked over and over. Maybe you should try decaf. Scuba Oct 2015 #28

Disappointing non-responsive and personal deflection. You are better than that. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #30

No. Sanders is not attacking Obama, but rather is criticizing some of Obamas policies. Scuba Oct 2015 #32

"Pretend" being the key word Android3.14 Oct 2015 #48

in the world of some, any deviation from the party line is treachery roguevalley Oct 2015 #67

Sanders followers attack Obama, Obama is one of the best Presidents in history lewebley3 Oct 2015 #83

I give Obama high marks on several issues, but big fat F's on many, many others. Scuba Oct 2015 #124

Obama is the leader of Dem party and over a great leader! lewebley3 Oct 2015 #131

Yes, it is, any attacks on Dem hurts Dem party chances. Sanders people are bashers lewebley3 Oct 2015 #173

You see what adhering to Ronald Reagan's 11th Commandment got the Republicans? Scuba Oct 2015 #175

I saw what ideologues did to Al Gore: Sanders is the McGovern candidate lewebley3 Oct 2015 #176

What? Leftist ideologues made Gore do this? Scuba Oct 2015 #181

Hope you remember the difference during the debates Sheepshank Oct 2015 #143

Just curious, just which of Bernie's policies do you consider non viable? Scuba Oct 2015 #144

after learning that some of them did the same to Hillary in 2008... grasswire Oct 2015 #153

Sanders is just parroting a "liberal" talking point... joshcryer Oct 2015 #164

Fred's right. To win, Bernie MUST bring out 60+ MILLION VOTERS. Hortensis Oct 2015 #112

Wow...some common sense...nice! GitRDun Oct 2015 #122

Your right uponit7771 Oct 2015 #136

Ad homs are the norm now uponit7771 Oct 2015 #135

See post 174....apology will be accepted. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #179

I'm curious. How do you think Silceo being a troll makes you less wrong? Scuba Oct 2015 #180

Politico quoted Sanders verbatim Sliceo Oct 2015 #46

and he's not wrong. Killing the messenger is the last defense of the losing roguevalley Oct 2015 #68

The koch bros political party is desperate to knock off Hillary workinclasszero Oct 2015 #109

Nah, they see Bernie's populist anti-oligarch appeal & it makes 'em nervous. senz Oct 2015 #116

They see Hillary as a threat workinclasszero Oct 2015 #121

Harsh, but this is true. BUT -- the Kochs ARE afraid of Bernie supporters. Hortensis Oct 2015 #127

desperate attempts to stop the inevitable? frylock Oct 2015 #177

Love this Pres Obama photo from the link.. riversedge Oct 2015 #2

I love that photo! I am so glad Hillary is running to carry on the Obama legacy. leftofcool Oct 2015 #14

Ageed, great picture! Go Hillary lewebley3 Oct 2015 #84

Yep,we need more of that :/ Go Vols Oct 2015 #89

Many Democrats ARE deeply disappointed with Obama. 99Forever Oct 2015 #3

So, you support the attacks on Obama....in order to boost Sanders? I appreciate the honesty! Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #4

What I don't support... 99Forever Oct 2015 #5

Your own words.... Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #9

Bullshit. 99Forever Oct 2015 #11

Your own words, you mean? Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #12

As a fair and unbiased observer I must say you make a lot of great points. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author 99Forever Oct 2015 #22

Why, thank you, sir. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author 99Forever Oct 2015 #35

I can never let a blessing go unheeded. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #36

Okay then. 99Forever Oct 2015 #37

I am 100% sincere DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #38

One can both agree with that rjsquirrel Oct 2015 #39

I believe the Obama Presidency is or was unique nolabels Oct 2015 #156

'fair and unbiased observer' Live and Learn Oct 2015 #75

I am a paragon of fairness, objectivity, and impartiality. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #76

DUzy. Funniest posts of the day. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #78

My commitment to dispassionate analysis was, is, and shall remain unwavering. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #79

Bullshit. 99Forever Oct 2015 #21

really? Karl Rove Is Ruining the GOP virtualobserver Oct 2015 #19

No. That is NOT an attack. It is a statement of fact, or at the very least, an opinion. pangaia Oct 2015 #99

actually, Politico was started by a bunch of ex-reaganites still_one Oct 2015 #118

Explanatin of positions does not mean "Attacks" Armstead Oct 2015 #13

How is the truth an attack? Live and Learn Oct 2015 #73

Your last sentence is truth, but that is far from what the OP implied, that much is undeniable. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #80

I think your analysis of what Sanders 'implied' is faulty. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #81

A completely idiotic non sequitur by you Jim Lane Oct 2015 #117

You do realize Clinton is taking shots at the Obama administration as well Prism Oct 2015 #165

"Shots"? You call those "shots"?... As in "respectful disagreement" on a couple of issues...I agree. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #168

I can't find a link, but you should see the Benghazi statement Prism Oct 2015 #169

That he did. I have always thought listening to Autumn Oct 2015 #25

Funny tho... 99Forever Oct 2015 #33

Gotta ignore that, when they go there the discussion is over. Autumn Oct 2015 #34

He joins Bill is the most effective privatization presidents ibegurpard Oct 2015 #43

Exactly. 99Forever Oct 2015 #45

So tell me how was he going to get the blue dogs to vote for single-payer? He didn't have the votes still_one Oct 2015 #120

He didn't even try. 99Forever Oct 2015 #126

I hear you loud and clear. We're just going to disagree on this one. still_one Oct 2015 #129

I can live with that. 99Forever Oct 2015 #132

LOL still_one Oct 2015 #133

And I AM Too! I Knew He Was More Conservative From The Get-Go, But ChiciB1 Oct 2015 #123

That's not true and you know it. Once reality hits Bernie in his butt..she how much he waffles. It kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #155

Actually I know it IS true. 99Forever Oct 2015 #158

That's because It's true. in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #6

Recommend! KoKo Oct 2015 #163

I said when Sanders announced that his call to primary Obama would sufrommich Oct 2015 #7

I think he might be asked about this in the debates. leftofcool Oct 2015 #61

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2015 #137

and what FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #8

He's been at it since Bill took office in 1993. ucrdem Oct 2015 #10

Alan Greenspan, NAFTA, Media and Financial Deregulation.... Armstead Oct 2015 #18

. . . have nothing to do with the OP. nt ucrdem Oct 2015 #94

This is how he plans to appeal to African American voters - calling Obama weak wyldwolf Oct 2015 #15

Good luck with that for Sanders and his supporters....the opposite of what they should be doing! Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #23

Yeah Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #24

This is how Hillary supporters try to sow division between Bernie and AAs senz Oct 2015 #44

Bernie is doing a fine job of it himself wyldwolf Oct 2015 #49

Bernie does not have a racist bone in his body and you know it. senz Oct 2015 #50

who said anything about racism? wyldwolf Oct 2015 #52

You did when you opposed Bernie to "African American voters." senz Oct 2015 #57

No I didn't wyldwolf Oct 2015 #58

LOL, how slippery. Like a boy with his hand in the cookie jar. senz Oct 2015 #63

LOL, how desperate. Like a boy struggling to comprehend basic definitions. wyldwolf Oct 2015 #65

You. Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #95

No I didn't. prove it wyldwolf Oct 2015 #102

You were the one who performed the shiftaroo from Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #106

But that is neither racism or ... wyldwolf Oct 2015 #111

by speaking in July hfojvt Oct 2015 #96

Precisely. senz Oct 2015 #114

By posting Sanders own words?!?!! uponit7771 Oct 2015 #138

Taken out of context, not even close to his full opinion of Obama. senz Oct 2015 #150

Wait..."Obama is weak in negotiating with republicans" doesn't stand by itself??! tia uponit7771 Oct 2015 #159

Your subject line dropped off some words. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #82

Nah, my subject line is complete wyldwolf Oct 2015 #85

Then your subject line is simply untrue. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #90

My subject line is completely true and you contradicted yourself wyldwolf Oct 2015 #92

Perhaps, you should read my post again without your tinted glasses on. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #97

It's completely contradictory wyldwolf Oct 2015 #101

No need to be rude. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #103

I'm never rude to someone else is first wyldwolf Oct 2015 #104

Now that is a wierd subject line. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #107

Ah, the feigning ignorance routine wyldwolf Oct 2015 #108

This conversation has obviously deteriorated in to unintelligible discourse. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #110

Yeah it's a shame you had to set it down that path. wyldwolf Oct 2015 #113

Your reading it wrong uponit7771 Oct 2015 #139

I'm one of them. PatrickforO Oct 2015 #16

+ Eighty Gazillion Scuba Oct 2015 #26

Absolutely! HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #27

as am I. Tired of right wing Democrats. nt m-lekktor Oct 2015 #31

as am I ibegurpard Oct 2015 #53

^ what he said n/t ejbr Oct 2015 #72

I voted for him twice ybbor Oct 2015 #91

Bernie will continue using drones. nt msanthrope Oct 2015 #157

His criticism of Obama is spot on. Broward Oct 2015 #40

Bernie Sanders Endorses Obama's Push to Protect Your Retirement. Where's Hillary? senz Oct 2015 #41

I go back and forth tularetom Oct 2015 #42

He just said that in July this year? treestar Oct 2015 #47

i am an obama supporter and i support bernie questionseverything Oct 2015 #51

Is Obama a weak president? wyldwolf Oct 2015 #54

Yes, calling him weak is more than disagreement with what he did treestar Oct 2015 #55

Not if you support privatization ibegurpard Oct 2015 #56

he certainly seemed weak when negotiating the public option away questionseverything Oct 2015 #62

how is it weak when the Blue Dogs would just not go for it? treestar Oct 2015 #66

we had a good bill from the house questionseverything Oct 2015 #74

They did use that treestar Oct 2015 #87

at the time i gave obama the benefit of the doubt questionseverything Oct 2015 #93

So I guess in the same situation, a strong President like Sanders would have come away with... wyldwolf Oct 2015 #167

when bernie sponsored the amendment that got us the one time fed audit questionseverything Oct 2015 #172

"Everything on the table" is a weak negotiating position. joshcryer Oct 2015 #166

^^^That^^^ onecaliberal Oct 2015 #60

I am also an Obama supporter who supports Bernie. senz Oct 2015 #59

I am both an Obama and Sanders supporter. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #86

The amount of dismissing Sanders own wood is gob smacking uponit7771 Oct 2015 #140

I hope he is asked about it during the debate. Not a good moment from Sanders. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #64

Obama won because people wanted Hope and Change Armstead Oct 2015 #69

While it's 100% true, Sanders should never have said that! mhatrw Oct 2015 #70

Almost everyone I know is disappointed in Obama. So much political potential WASTED. AzDar Oct 2015 #71

we all know why he's running: Obama got a mandate and then created a literal "veal pen" MisterP Oct 2015 #77

Some people really have trouble with the truth. highprincipleswork Oct 2015 #88

I supported President Obama both times he ran. I was fed jwirr Oct 2015 #98

+1 And I love his family too. nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #105

I am a staunch Obama supporter who donated Indepatriot Oct 2015 #100

"Obama is weak"? That will go over well. He gave us healthcare. I know, it wasn't single payer, still_one Oct 2015 #115

No he did NOT give us healthcare ibegurpard Oct 2015 #119

You didn't answer my question. How could he have gotten single payer to pass without the votes? still_one Oct 2015 #125

He gave us better than what we had for most... The fact Sanders doesn't recognize the is bad judgmen uponit7771 Oct 2015 #147

That last sentence treestar Oct 2015 #134

This whole thread from Right Wing POLITICO should go over well with OBAMA supporter. nt Stellar Oct 2015 #128

I question the intent of this OP olddots Oct 2015 #130

Sanders judgement here is bad, this was not smart...no matter what Obmam does in support this bell uponit7771 Oct 2015 #141

Bernie supporters have been informed since the beginning of his campaign Sheepshank Oct 2015 #145

+1 It's an unthoughtful diss too.... Don't know what it adds to his champaign uponit7771 Oct 2015 #146

Frankly, when Bernie first entered the race..... Sheepshank Oct 2015 #149

He hasn't evolved, I heard him on MTP and he pissed me off by not answering on what he'd uponit7771 Oct 2015 #160

How can Bernie say he's consistent? Sheepshank Oct 2015 #170

+1,My biggest angst against Sanders is he is intimating he can throw a stone in categories... uponit7771 Oct 2015 #171

Dishonest headline. Vattel Oct 2015 #148

Very dishonest. senz Oct 2015 #151

Quoting Sanders words isn't dishonest, I can read them for myself and saying Obama is weak in... uponit7771 Oct 2015 #162

well bernie just lost my primary vote.... chillfactor Oct 2015 #152

I have been around just about as long as you and I disagree, Bernie Speaks the TRUTH YabaDabaNoDinoNo Oct 2015 #154

He couldn't speak the truth this morning when asked straight up what he'd do different than Obama... uponit7771 Oct 2015 #161

Previously banned troll. Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #174

Troll who seems to have more than a few fans at DU when he posted ludicrous anti-Obama screeds! Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #178