2016 Postmortem

Cali_Democrat

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23. It was from shortly after the PA debate in 2008

Wed Oct 7, 2015, 08:57 PM

Oct 2015

Don't you remember when ABC hosted the Pennsylvania debate and they asked no substantive questions? Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulos asked questions about flag pins and Rev. Wright. Hillary was trying to join in because this is politics and wanted to win. Happens all the time.

You do realize Obama appointed Hillary as his Sec. of State, right? He obviously didn't hold a grudge. The primaries in 2008 were roough, but they got over it. I was an Obama supporter in 2007/2008. Is that OK with you?

What exactly does my signature gif have to do with this OP? What an odd and out-of-place reply.

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Hillary is against TPP. Hillary haters continue to hate her. [View all] DanTex Oct 2015 OP

She has a history of pandering-- jkbRN Oct 2015 #1

And some people just don't trust bernie so get over it! leftofcool Oct 2015 #10

Um, I'm not the one making the claim--you are [about HRC]. jkbRN Oct 2015 #13

I woulndn't bother. nt artislife Oct 2015 #28

I don't trust her. 840high Oct 2015 #46

Yep Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #2

Good post. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #9

Still wondering if you know who's dirt Obama is brushing off his shoulders there (in your gif). Fawke Em Oct 2015 #18

It was from shortly after the PA debate in 2008 Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #23

You've been asked before. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #24

You asked me before? I didn't realize. A lot of people reply to me Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #25

It's a political calculation on her part. Broward Oct 2015 #3

I tend to agree, both for TPP and her vote for the IWR Martin Eden Oct 2015 #33

Because it is not about issues but taking her down. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #4

They are afraid she will out Bernie Bernie. upaloopa Oct 2015 #32

Bernie has gotten nowhere workinclasszero Oct 2015 #38

Which explains the Hillary hate upaloopa Oct 2015 #40

Sure Bernie is promising a new golden age if elected workinclasszero Oct 2015 #41

Oh, absolutely. Any criticism of Hillary whatsoever constitutes Hillary hate. Jim Lane Oct 2015 #47

There is Hillary hate on this board daily upaloopa Oct 2015 #48

Is there legitimate criticism of Hillary on this board daily? (n/t) Jim Lane Oct 2015 #61

Depends on the paradigm you see the contest upaloopa Oct 2015 #64

More precisely, it depends on whether you see it as a contest in the first place. Jim Lane Oct 2015 #65

The Dem primary is no contest upaloopa Oct 2015 #67

except bernie is the genuine article restorefreedom Oct 2015 #43

I haven't heard anything about Biden running. Boov Oct 2015 #66

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2015 #74

First, the TPP is only one issue. djean111 Oct 2015 #5

You know just watched David Brock on MSNBC upaloopa Oct 2015 #6

Have you cleansed your tv after Brock was on? I would. Bohunk68 Oct 2015 #53

Hum, maybe we need a list of flip flops in this campaign? Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #7

To be fair, I'm sure she got early access to the text. ForwardMotion Oct 2015 #8

Anything pushed by a bunch of huge international corporations pangaia Oct 2015 #57

I don't hate Hillary. For some of us TPP is a big fucking deal. Autumn Oct 2015 #11

She was not "okay with it" before. She had no position before. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #17

She pushed it FORTY FIVE times. Geez. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #19

No she didn't. You evidently didn't read the list in the linked to article. Most of the "pushing" Persondem Oct 2015 #29

I'm not smearing her. I just don't trust her. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #35

I guess passing on inaccurate information about Clinton doesn't = smear to you. Persondem Oct 2015 #42

"mentionning positives" does not equal "pushing"... sibelian Oct 2015 #62

I typed the following Persondem Oct 2015 #69

Stop lying. Geez. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #30

Wrong.n/t Autumn Oct 2015 #45

Did you read what she said and her reason(s) for not being in favor of it? George II Oct 2015 #20

Well said. Kind of like the time Hillary claimed she wanted to "topple the 1%". pa28 Oct 2015 #39

Your last sentence says all that needs be said. I like her, shes a wonderful woman. Autumn Oct 2015 #44

Hate her? I don't even know her, how can I hate her? daleanime Oct 2015 #12

Bingo. Thank you. Armstead Oct 2015 #21

O'Malley statement on Clinton flip flop totodeinhere Oct 2015 #14

Says the guy polling at 2% leftofcool Oct 2015 #50

Just because he is polling at 2% doesn't make him wrong. Bohunk68 Oct 2015 #55

If you are going to go by polls then Donald Trump is just fabulous totodeinhere Oct 2015 #70

K&R! stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #15

She also said that some things that she wanted and lobbied for aren't included in the final version. George II Oct 2015 #16

Watch this video. It's political expedience. madfloridian Oct 2015 #22

She shows here that she was quite the architect of the TPP... MrMickeysMom Oct 2015 #26

The oppositie of both love and hate is indifference. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #27

I'm waiting for her to explain why she's against the TPP. Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #31

She's playing the hand she's been dealt ucrdem Oct 2015 #34

This is about as cynical an admission as Kevin McCarthy's was regarding bullwinkle428 Oct 2015 #37

It's clear the hate isn't based on policy. betsuni Oct 2015 #36

If she says the right thing, they say she's lying. JoePhilly Oct 2015 #49

which ever way the wind blows, it's like she follows bernie around bowens43 Oct 2015 #51

Yes, this is exactly what I was talking about. DanTex Oct 2015 #52

Love hearing the haters prove they aren't hating redstateblues Oct 2015 #63

Would that be similar to bernie's flip flopping on gun control? leftofcool Oct 2015 #60

The attacks on Hillary are really sad Gothmog Oct 2015 #54

Simply Because HRC Is An Opportunistic Flip Flopper cantbeserious Oct 2015 #56

Hate, hate, hate ,hate pangaia Oct 2015 #58

By the way, I'd like to complain about the Judy Woodruf interview where Clinton betsuni Oct 2015 #59

She flip flopped Bradical79 Oct 2015 #68

We don't believe her. Her dishonesty is the issue. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #71

Why are you calling us who don't support her 'haters'? Avalux Oct 2015 #72

Imagine the two dozen daily hate OPs if Hill said yes to TPP. oasis Oct 2015 #73