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6. I don't know what she stands for - changes

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Wed Oct 7, 2015, 04:13 PM

Oct 2015

everyday. I wonder if she has core values, beliefs.

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Clinton opposes Pacific Rim trade deal [View all] The Straight Story Oct 2015 OP

Where's that weathervane gif when you need it? HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author 4139 Oct 2015 #5

This one? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #13

Seriously...little late. Tired of Hillary's "me too" phony populist rhetoric. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #81

She's getting ready for the debate next week Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #114

Can't wait to hear the polling data's flip-flop answer to that question, with a half twist of triangulation thrown in. Bernie will smoke Hillary in the debate...can't wait! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #132

This message was self-deleted by its author PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #2

Link to the story on PBS.org... PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #3

Yeah, leaving herself the usual wiggle room. CharlotteVale Oct 2015 #4

Exactly smilingwen Oct 2015 #11

Yes, what I know today. jwirr Oct 2015 #19

I don't know what she stands for - changes 840high Oct 2015 #6

Yeah, she stands for winning MissDeeds Oct 2015 #8

Yeah. She believes she should be president. senz Oct 2015 #86

You'd think that someone who has been involved in politics for 50+ years, Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #135

Well this Bernie supporter is happy mvd Oct 2015 #7

As a Bernie supporter, I welcome her opposition. mmonk Oct 2015 #9

Bernie is against it because-- he is against it. pangaia Oct 2015 #95

Duck! Here comes that moving goalpost! Divernan Oct 2015 #10

"Not good enough!" say the Hillary haters. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #12

The anti-Hillary crowd has been bashing her for days for not saying anything and now..... leftofcool Oct 2015 #24

How do you keep track of where she stands on things? virtualobserver Oct 2015 #101

Its too funny isn't it? workinclasszero Oct 2015 #131

Good for her! Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #14

My thoughts exactly. Bernie is having an impact. Broward Oct 2015 #16

This isn't Bernie. This is Hillary wanting to lock down union endorsements before Biden askew Oct 2015 #42

Well, there's that (wanting to lock down union endorsements before Biden)... tex-wyo-dem Oct 2015 #76

lol...good luck with that! Bernie will get the union vote over both Biden and Hillary. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #83

"What I know about it as of today, I am not in favor." jfern Oct 2015 #15

Of course she does Autumn Oct 2015 #17

She knows which way the political winds are blowing. Broward Oct 2015 #18

Thank God she finally made up her mind! left-of-center2012 Oct 2015 #20

"what i know about it as of today....." restorefreedom Oct 2015 #21

Caught that too! The Hillary-speak...leave just a little wiggle room for triangulation proposes. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #133

I'm glad she opposes it now but can we trust her to oppose similar agreements in the future? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #22

We can "trust" her to initate them ... if she has an office-holding future. senz Oct 2015 #25

Yes, just like we can trust Sanders not to do stupid shit like support the Minuteman... uponit7771 Oct 2015 #31

Results... Major Nikon Oct 2015 #122

It's been fun watching her followers defend the TPP. It's going to even more fun senz Oct 2015 #23

hahaha grasswire Oct 2015 #66

Good point...thought the same thing. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #84

Sanders doesn't evolve on anything!! NOT ONE ISSUE!! uponit7771 Oct 2015 #26

What has he evolved on? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #29

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A thread with that vile smear was hidden because it's from a banned DUer. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #33

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Got proof that Bernie the son of immigrants is anti-immigrant? Tia! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #40

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That's just a list of who voted what. No content. arcane1 Oct 2015 #48

Here's some content... uponit7771 Oct 2015 #51

So where does it say he supports the Minutemen? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #55

So, government funds should be used for this purpose? arcane1 Oct 2015 #60

You mean this bill?: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #50

No, this one... http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_Sanders_Immigration.htm uponit7771 Oct 2015 #54

Again, where is the proof he's anti-immigrant? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #57

Who is the "anti immigrant racist punk"? arcane1 Oct 2015 #41

Bernie says that we are a "nation of immigrants. That is, in fact, the strength of America." beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #59

Bernie: Offer path to citizenship; waive deportation for DREAMers beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #61

English-Only, based in xenophobia, hurts legal immigrants beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #63

Anti-immigration Bernie voted YES on continuing federal funds for declared "sanctuary cities". beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #64

Anti-immigration "racist punk" Bernie rated 0% by FAIR beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #68

Anti-immigration Bernie Voted NO on reporting illegal aliens who receive hospital treatment. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #69

That Member of DU is not banned, Not PPR'd — not even on a timeout. Raine1967 Oct 2015 #70

You're really going to defend the honour of Spandan Chakrabarti? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #73

My point remains: Raine1967 Oct 2015 #80

I cited info from the hidden thread: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #82

No you didn't. Raine1967 Oct 2015 #103

Are you saying the author of that article isn't a banned DUer? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #104

No I am not saying that. I am saying that you said Raine1967 Oct 2015 #105

That is most certainly NOT what I said. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #106

Go back and take a look at post #33. Raine1967 Oct 2015 #108

Point out where I said the member who posted the article was banned. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #109

Maybe you could actually share a link (permalink, perhaps) from the Member who was PPR'd. Raine1967 Oct 2015 #110

No, pathetic is repeatedly claiming I said something I didn't and not proving your assertion. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #112

you may assume whatever you choose. Raine1967 Oct 2015 #118

What a bizarre subthread. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2015 #120

Thanks, I was beginning to wonder if I was crazy. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #123

Nothing personal, but you have to parse the language to get it right. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #121

The wording was a bit clumsy. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2015 #124

It was a little clunky, yes. And I did have to read it again to make sure I got it right. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #125

You'll have to forgive me, I was angry to see it posted here again. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #126

You are forgiven! Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2015 #128

Tank you veddy much! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #129

Yeah, this was due to be re-re-recycled any day now. arcane1 Oct 2015 #37

You mean his vote for the Minutemen to be recycled!? http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2006/roll224.xml uponit7771 Oct 2015 #39

Please cite proof that he "voted for the Minutemen". Tia! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #43

The GOP gumper legislation was in support of them, play obtuse... I could care less. uponit7771 Oct 2015 #47

Where does it say he voted for the "Minutemen" specifically? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #53

Oh, he evolved when he betrayed Ron Paul on their Gloria Oct 2015 #74

Did she give a clue to what the "unanswered questions" are? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #27

"How will this affect my run for president?" senz Oct 2015 #89

LOL. I think you're on to something there. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #96

So what. Would she veto it if she became President? closeupready Oct 2015 #28

"As of today" But what about tomorrow? ram2008 Oct 2015 #30

Good. Let's keep it that way n/t arcane1 Oct 2015 #34

I don't know how Hillary supporters aren't just embarassed by their candidate. askew Oct 2015 #36

I haven't seen an issue oriented post from them in ages. their campaign seems to have three planks Doctor_J Oct 2015 #46

Yeah, I guess that is it. askew Oct 2015 #52

and when she starts attacking Obama DonCoquixote Oct 2015 #97

She already has. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #99

Yeah... kenfrequed Oct 2015 #113

Oh they are. It expresses itself in vitriolic smears n/t arcane1 Oct 2015 #49

she'll be in favor again as soon as the primaries are over Doctor_J Oct 2015 #38

We'll see how hard she fights it. ibegurpard Oct 2015 #45

I wonder "what I know about it as of" tomorrow will bring? cpompilo Oct 2015 #56

Well done Mrs. Clinton. Finally something I can actually get behind if she wins the nod. ion_theory Oct 2015 #58

ANY adults here ? Gloria Oct 2015 #62

"positive environmental sections"...? tex-wyo-dem Oct 2015 #85

There was a lot more in there than expected, that's Gloria Oct 2015 #115

These all-encompassing "free trade" agreements negotiated in secret are bad by definition Armstead Oct 2015 #88

I totally agree.. Gloria Oct 2015 #116

It's a good day for some kabuki Bernblu Oct 2015 #65

Yep. As of today blah blah blah. N/t azmom Oct 2015 #71

It's been signed. It's too late to change it. Qutzupalotl Oct 2015 #67

She totally Berned Obama on that one! Bucky Oct 2015 #72

Well, if she truly has, Good for Her Armstead Oct 2015 #75

Incredibly disingenuous and disappointing. tritsofme Oct 2015 #77

As of today I'm happy she does. ornotna Oct 2015 #78

I am glad that Hillary Clinton is taking this position Gothmog Oct 2015 #79

Yeah it's a good thing her focus group finally weighed in. senz Oct 2015 #90

then she shoukd have taken it DonCoquixote Oct 2015 #98

Cynical Politics - Too little too late! Bernblu Oct 2015 #100

I'm even more glad that Sanders took it (more firmly) months ago Doctor_J Oct 2015 #102

. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #87

Pacific Rim sounds like a double entendre DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #91

There is much bad in the TPP, but the worst is this: senz Oct 2015 #92

Surprised, did not see this coming. joshcryer Oct 2015 #93

so one of the main archoitects of this deal DonCoquixote Oct 2015 #94

You all realize that this will make Biden THE "pro-TPP" candidate, bullwinkle428 Oct 2015 #107

Yes, it does.... Gloria Oct 2015 #117

Which might actually work in his favor Egnever Oct 2015 #134

I don't buy it. kenfrequed Oct 2015 #111

I don't believe a word she says anymore. 840high Oct 2015 #127

So she was for it, until Pharma CEO's, Big Tobacco and Republicans were against it. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2015 #119

Now *that* is cynicism. Like - in your back, Obama. delrem Oct 2015 #130