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In reply to the discussion: Why I don't think I will be able to vote for Clinton if Sanders fails... [View all]Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)189. One: I'm a Sanders supporter. Two: I'm not going to tell anyone who to vote for.
But let me ask you: how old are you?
How many Republican Presidents do you actually remember?
Because this old man can tell you, here's how it works. Your Democratic Presidents will often, usually, generally, let you down in various ways. Disappoint. Not always, and I still hold out hope for better, which is why I am supporting Senator Sanders-
but Republicans don't disappoint. They exceed expectations. However bad you think they're going to be, they're worse. A LOT worse.
I guarantee you that "the lesser of two evils" looks a fuckton less evil after 8 years of some unimaginably craptastic Republican in the White House.
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Why I don't think I will be able to vote for Clinton if Sanders fails... [View all]
F4lconF16
Oct 2015
OP
Okay. So either don't vote or vote for the other side. It's all about choices.
leftofcool
Oct 2015
#1
underline VIABLE. this is why the left LOSES. i want to WIN, no other option these days of FUX GNEWZ
pansypoo53219
Oct 2015
#93
The point I make is that I think only a Sanders win can stop our steady drag to the right
Scootaloo
Oct 2015
#181
Is that why Vermont only has Senators from the two main parties? I didn't think so.
A Simple Game
Oct 2015
#274
I will vote for the Democratic Socialist third party candidate just like you say you will.
A Simple Game
Oct 2015
#315
"If you still blame Nader for what happened, you have lost all credibility."
SusanCalvin
Oct 2015
#210
A very snide response to a very thoughtful post. THIS is how people in the REAL WORLD are thinking
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#12
Out of the hundreds of other shady posts, you chose to blast that on this OP?
LettuceSea
Oct 2015
#23
you do realize General Election season does not begin until after the Democratic Primary ?
azurnoir
Oct 2015
#115
I don't think he was being disingenous. The OP stated that he would not vote for Hillary in the GE
brush
Oct 2015
#255
It will never cease to amaze me you think socialists will vote Republican. Nt
F4lconF16
Oct 2015
#42
Ok, if you say so. Just consider this: The important thing to do is to get a Dem . . .
brush
Oct 2015
#108
I have the archaic notion that my vote belongs to me, to use as I wish.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Oct 2015
#120
We are not putting up with that crap anymore. You cannot bully us into voting for
liberal_at_heart
Oct 2015
#139
No. If Bernie doesn't get the nomination I'll vote for someone even more progressive than he is.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Oct 2015
#81
I think that's where most of the Chris Hedges-type progressives are at. It sounds like you and they
ancianita
Oct 2015
#285
Actually, she switched to the GOP a few weeks ago in one of her passive agressive press conferences.
FSogol
Oct 2015
#136
+1. I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. Right now, I don't think I'll come to it. n/t
winter is coming
Oct 2015
#96
What's your hurry? Besides even if I did right now I could still post here.
YabaDabaNoDinoNo
Oct 2015
#53
I have been pro glbtq rights from the jump, long before it was cool...
DemocratSinceBirth
Oct 2015
#86
I respect your honesty but i am being honest when i say I don't respect your choice.
hrmjustin
Oct 2015
#95
I would say voting is an intimate, personal, and sacred right and I respect their right
liberal_at_heart
Oct 2015
#147
I haven't put you on ignore yet have I? I don't put everyone on ignore.
liberal_at_heart
Oct 2015
#154
Do what you feel you need to do. I think it is worth discussing without using ignore.
hrmjustin
Oct 2015
#155
Great post, and I wish the national Democratic Party would get this message
beerandjesus
Oct 2015
#73
The question for me is whether legitimizing the system does me more harm than good.
F4lconF16
Oct 2015
#92
It is called self preservation and pragatimisn. Just because you don't like Hillary does not mean
Todays_Illusion
Oct 2015
#126
those of us who are democrats on DemocraticUnderground will miss you after the convention :-) nt
msongs
Oct 2015
#128
It was 300,000 registered Democrats in FL who though that Bush was better than Gore n/t
eridani
Oct 2015
#253
Counter argument. Angela Davis voted for Obama. First time she ever voted for a major party
McCamy Taylor
Oct 2015
#144
So if the Hillary people all decide to sit it out if Bernie wins, that's okay with you?
pnwmom
Oct 2015
#165
They might just choose not to vote at all, like you. I don't know why you expect
pnwmom
Oct 2015
#241
"Because there's not a dime's worth of difference between Al Gore and George Bush"
greenman3610
Oct 2015
#167
As socialists, our responsibility is to strengthening our class to advance to greater goals.
Starry Messenger
Oct 2015
#169
"back to square one, circa 1980." I think manny here don't realize how fucking god awful that was.
bettyellen
Oct 2015
#197
As a woman I have seen our rights stripped away.... Often men forget that and think the gamble is
bettyellen
Oct 2015
#290
lol. i am queer and gay married and i dont think you should use us as an excuse to not vote for HRC.
La Lioness Priyanka
Oct 2015
#172
IF Clinton should become our nominee and that is beginning to look doubtful, I'm certain my decision
Purveyor
Oct 2015
#180
Probably the people who run their own website so they can trash Sanders supporters.
DisgustipatedinCA
Oct 2015
#238
One: I'm a Sanders supporter. Two: I'm not going to tell anyone who to vote for.
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2015
#189
Mega-left purity is as radical as the right wing insane tea party. Thanks for helping them.
RBInMaine
Oct 2015
#193
As we become adults we realize that the world doesn't revolve around us. Some I guess never grow up
upaloopa
Oct 2015
#216
Actually, Sanders isn't a liar; you may be confusing him with other candidates.
DisgustipatedinCA
Oct 2015
#239
That's all good stuff but it's essentially just rhetoric since all this talk of 3rd parties . . .
brush
Oct 2015
#258
I can't believe how many posts there are telling us who we have to vote for.
liberal_at_heart
Oct 2015
#243
He/she pulled the same thing on me so I just wanted to let him/her know that being put on ignore
brush
Oct 2015
#296
I suspect that you might change your mind if it's Clinton vs someone from the Clown Car
eridani
Oct 2015
#248
Problem is that our car is already headed backwards, down a really big hill, with a cliff ahead. nt
F4lconF16
Oct 2015
#249
Both parties have been destroying this country since Reagan. It happens a little bit slower when
liberal_at_heart
Oct 2015
#250
You have to vote Mrs. Clinton if she is the nominee. God help us if Trump is the nomnee!
akbacchus_BC
Oct 2015
#261
This whole thread demonstrates the problem with the American political system
davidn3600
Oct 2015
#268
What's that suppose to mean, you're going to vote for a mud flap for President? Good gawd.
lonestarnot
Oct 2015
#272
The 8 horrific years of the Bush/Cheney regime convinced me never to not vote Democrat.
DCBob
Oct 2015
#273
I can never vote GOP again.. I did vote for Reagan the first time... NEVER AGAIN.. We need for
secondwind
Oct 2015
#278
I simply can't think of a single reason why I should trust her. I would never hire her
Zorra
Oct 2015
#304
Well, I just heard a discussion of the Supreme Court on Charlie Rose last night...
Gloria
Oct 2015
#310