2016 Postmortem

jeff47

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24. By not releasing everything, she's ensuring the voters do not have all the information

Wed Sep 23, 2015, 02:51 PM

Sep 2015

For example, how was the security on her private server? Did they do a good job or not?

That's a rather important measure of judgement - did she trust it to people who knew what they were doing or not?

The goal of handling this via "drip...drip...drip..." is hoping that we reach election day before everything comes out, so that voters do not have all the information to make their decision.

'Cause nothing says "I love democracy" like intentionally keeping voters in the dark.

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Hillary Clinton: Come Clean or Get Out [View all] Skwmom Sep 2015 OP

Screw that noise. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #1

Did the air raid sirens disturb your sleep again, poor boy? leveymg Sep 2015 #7

It's been over ... JoePhilly Sep 2015 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Sep 2015 #2

BASH randys1 Sep 2015 #3

Everything..... daleanime Sep 2015 #15

My choice is Bernie, and if he doesnt win my choice will be Women's lives and voting rights randys1 Sep 2015 #17

The right is starting to freak out as her presidency seems more and more arely staircase Sep 2015 #70

Your concern is duly noted Renew Deal Sep 2015 #4

FUNNIEST POST OF THE YEAR! Metric System Sep 2015 #5

Let's correct this a bit: Fawke Em Sep 2015 #6

+1 but simply "stop running" works for me n/t Catherina Sep 2015 #9

That's really what a lot of this is about. Renew Deal Sep 2015 #20

And some of us don't particularly like her Fawke Em Sep 2015 #22

May come as a shock to you but plenty of people don't like neoliberalism Catherina Sep 2015 #27

It has a lot to do with personality and gender. Renew Deal Sep 2015 #57

The same applies to some of her most ardent supporters.. frylock Sep 2015 #59

A little on Ron Fournier... brooklynite Sep 2015 #8

A "top Clinton adviser told me" oasis Sep 2015 #10

She has no concept of the greater good; it's all about her and the party be damned. Drip-drip-drip. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #11

Bernie Sanders would be disgusted with your reply. Please, stop the insanity. RBInMaine Sep 2015 #74

Bernie would think your reply is douchey, passive-aggressive, lame ass brow-beating. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #75

How about The Donald katmondoo Sep 2015 #12

Why don't we let the voters decide? nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #13

Because of the "drip...drip...drip" handling of the situation. jeff47 Sep 2015 #16

If the voters don't like how she's handling it, she won't win. Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #19

By not releasing everything, she's ensuring the voters do not have all the information jeff47 Sep 2015 #24

Dem primary voters are smart and well-informed. She won't win if they believe she's dishonest. nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #28

Then a smart and well-informed primary voter such as your self could answer that question. jeff47 Sep 2015 #30

The voters will decide. Isn't Democracy lovely? nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #33

You're a voter. What's your decision? jeff47 Sep 2015 #34

There really is no such thing as a 'secure' server. Even government servers get hacked. nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #36

I didn't ask if it was absolutely secure. jeff47 Sep 2015 #39

Again, there's no such thing as a secure server. nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #41

And again, that is not the question I asked. jeff47 Sep 2015 #43

A 'secure' server is like a unicorn. They're fun to believe in, but ultimately non-existent. nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #45

And I've explained to you several times that that is not what I was asking. jeff47 Sep 2015 #51

There is no such thing as a 'secure' server. nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #53

So, you aren't a well-informed primary voter? (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #56

The Dem primary voters will decide if Hillary, Bernie or anyone else will be the nominee. nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #58

And tomorrow, the sun will rise. Both of those statements have nothing to do jeff47 Sep 2015 #66

If voters believe Hillary is not responsible when it comes to governing, she won't be chosen. nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #67

That is true, but there are layers of security on government servers. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #44

If the voters don't like her decision making, she won't win. Simple. Isn't democracy lovely? nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #50

Democracy works better when people know what's going on. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #72

Dem primary voters are aware of her decision-making when it comes to this issue. nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #78

Yet you can't answer a simple question about it. How odd if you're so aware. (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #79

I'm referring to her decision to use a private server. Voters are aware of that decision. nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #80

I know that kind of argument has a name but upaloopa Sep 2015 #37

You not liking the question does not make it an invalid question. jeff47 Sep 2015 #40

It's a bogus question upaloopa Sep 2015 #63

No, it's a question you don't want to discuss. jeff47 Sep 2015 #65

look for yourself BlueStateLib Sep 2015 #81

I already know the answer. jeff47 Sep 2015 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Sep 2015 #68

Interesting message HassleCat Sep 2015 #14

Ron Fournier from the National Journal. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #18

The source is suspect, which is why I added "unsecure, easily-hacked server" Fawke Em Sep 2015 #26

My sourse is telling me something completely different. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #32

I don't know squat about Gowdy. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #46

I never said you knew Gowdy. Though I would think people would know.... NCTraveler Sep 2015 #49

See, I'm not part of the witch hunt. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #52

How she screwed up the security on her server. jeff47 Sep 2015 #21

Someone needs to round up all that info. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #29

I'm afraid the drip-drip-drip of this self-inflicted wound will cost us the White House. Vinca Sep 2015 #23

I know what's in the hands of the FBI: every single email sent by Hillary, Bill, Chelsea, Huma Dems to Win Sep 2015 #64

Agreed. Vinca Sep 2015 #69

Maybe Biden Is Being Prepped Because The Establishment Already Knows She Is A Lost Cause cantbeserious Sep 2015 #77

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #25

Yawn. Another Beltway journalist raving about an issue almost no one outside the beltway cares about LonePirate Sep 2015 #31

Finally!!! 99Forever Sep 2015 #38

With all of the problems we face, if this issue is important to you, then I question your priorities LonePirate Sep 2015 #42

But I was just assured.... 99Forever Sep 2015 #55

Shit, we were assured half a year ago that this was nothing.. frylock Sep 2015 #62

I'm outside the beltway and I care whether her server was protected. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #48

Don't vote for her ok? upaloopa Sep 2015 #35

How many other Dem candidates would get away with serial lies? TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #47

Oh wow Ron Fournier dsc Sep 2015 #60

Sigh mcar Sep 2015 #61

and your party is going with Trump! LOL! Without McCarthyism what would the GOP do for a campaign? Bill USA Sep 2015 #71

Thanks for this steaming pile of nonsensical bullshit. RBInMaine Sep 2015 #73

There is a legitimate problem here portlander23 Sep 2015 #76

The FOIA part of this story hasn't really been talked about much Yupster Sep 2015 #83