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103. Are we supposed to trust anonymous sources? Didn't we learn anything from the NYTimes fiasco? n/t

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David Brock's group IS coordinating with the Hillary campaign. Bernie fights back. [View all] madfloridian Sep 2015 OP

Guilt by association HassleCat Sep 2015 #1

Pick 1: jeff47 Sep 2015 #79

Guilt by association AlbertCat Sep 2015 #90

Let the Clintonian gymnastics go Olympic! Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #150

Would you consider coordinating with Brock's organization to be something sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #164

He works for her AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #173

What's that smell? Fawke Em Sep 2015 #2

Not just a smell - that's a reeking nauseous stench of panic & desperation. Divernan Sep 2015 #62

don't worry. I am sure there's some nice lavendar cleaner in her roguevalley Sep 2015 #69

LOL azmom Sep 2015 #78

How insulting to women those stereotyped, misogynistic boxes are. Divernan Sep 2015 #80

lol 840high Sep 2015 #127

Both boxes have a smiliar item in it... Lancero Sep 2015 #163

So right! People turned on her big time! Rockyj Sep 2015 #140

Insanity Aerows Sep 2015 #149

Hilarious how HRC supporters are vociferously and kinda pompously denying this. djean111 Sep 2015 #3

This kind of attack geared toward heating bills for needy folks is IMO over the line. madfloridian Sep 2015 #4

It's the smell of desperation. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #5

K & R. It wasn't just Vermont's poor who received the needed heating oil. New York residents appalachiablue Sep 2015 #18

Joe Kennedy's Citizen's Energy got oil from Venezuela for years for MA residents who needed fuel seaglass Sep 2015 #39

I'm sure. A desperate, low sleaze effort that bombed. Good for Bernie's truth & Fightback! appalachiablue Sep 2015 #43

Hmm, well I'm not a Bernie supporter, I just didn't think this was a very effective attack for a Dem seaglass Sep 2015 #54

It was clearly done to try to associate Bernie with newly elected, soshalist! UK Labour appalachiablue Sep 2015 #121

Yes, to all you said. madfloridian Sep 2015 #124

You know now. Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #153

Alaska natives did too. Consider your winter last year every year including roguevalley Sep 2015 #71

Yes, sleazy. I just looked up more about it. Those who got warm did not care about politics. madfloridian Sep 2015 #118

Righto and thanks for the post. Nice to see you and Bernie Bear. appalachiablue Sep 2015 #125

100 percent correct. SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #101

Beyond "over the line" and -- Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2015 #6

And it is even worse when Hillary is coordinating with jwirr Sep 2015 #161

Yep. In a matter of seconds it goes: morningfog Sep 2015 #8

Us good Democrats would like to see the actual email from Brock. Darb Sep 2015 #13

Ask the HuffPo for it. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #15

Seems a lot of folks here have read it too. Darb Sep 2015 #17

This is pretty desperate. arcane1 Sep 2015 #22

So you haven't read the email. Figures. Darb Sep 2015 #27

I have no cred? arcane1 Sep 2015 #28

Weak sauce. I am in the Democratic Crew, FYI, Darb Sep 2015 #41

I am a Progressive! arcane1 Sep 2015 #45

Me too, cool. Darb Sep 2015 #49

You'll get over the hurt feelings eventually arcane1 Sep 2015 #52

Wow, you have really weak arguments. Post the email. Darb Sep 2015 #55

Lol you're cute arcane1 Sep 2015 #57

the technical term for what they did was "cowardly attack" virtualobserver Sep 2015 #58

Whatever cred you thought you may have had is going down the shitter.. frylock Sep 2015 #93

I'm sorry, but I had to say Aerows Sep 2015 #143

Why does Brock refuse to disclose it or even defend it on camera? n/t Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #151

Are we supposed to trust anonymous sources? Didn't we learn anything from the NYTimes fiasco? n/t pnwmom Sep 2015 #103

What's anonymous here? The reporters are named, and the Super-PAC is identified n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #108

Who were the reporters' sources? Were they named? pnwmom Sep 2015 #109

The source was the Super-PAC arcane1 Sep 2015 #110

No, not for the first link. For the other story: pnwmom Sep 2015 #111

The sentence you chose to omit is the answer you're looking for: arcane1 Sep 2015 #114

good democrats. Wow. roguevalley Sep 2015 #72

Transparent, isn't it? n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #84

awfully true. by the way, I have always liked the cleverness of your screen name. :D roguevalley Sep 2015 #85

Thanks! I never thought of it as clever, but I'll take it. arcane1 Sep 2015 #87

Good Germans. frylock Sep 2015 #94

So, HuffPo is lying? jeff47 Sep 2015 #88

Your boy, Brock, on video.. frylock Sep 2015 #138

what is a "good democrat" snooper2 Sep 2015 #162

"Hey, it's politics. Bernie better be ready for this if he is going to win against the republicans." passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #20

Those silly "Clinton supporters" are recklessly demanding something called "evidence" of this email Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #50

its there. go read it. Dave was a repub hit man. Google it. roguevalley Sep 2015 #73

And what is Brock in more modern times? Do you even know? And where is this email??? Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #96

and now he is slinging slime for Hillary virtualobserver Sep 2015 #82

Did you read the email? Please post. Lot of folk have been waiting all day....see post 86. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #104

they didn't post it......the Huffington post reported that they received it virtualobserver Sep 2015 #113

I think this is Camp Weathervane's statement at this point Aerows Sep 2015 #146

ZERO Evidence...besides the email quoted by HuffPo. jeff47 Sep 2015 #83

See #146 Aerows Sep 2015 #147

Yes, I agree about Brock. He's done a great job debunking media spin. madfloridian Sep 2015 #129

Get to hear Brock's anti-2A agitprop in the Gungeon. It stinks.... Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #134

The other stunts didn't work Aerows Sep 2015 #142

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #7

And thank you for the rec, Uncle Joe. madfloridian Sep 2015 #141

I am guessing that you have read Brock's email, because I certainly Darb Sep 2015 #9

This is where the link to Brock's email should be appearing....... Darb Sep 2015 #19

Do you ask all reporters to read their source material before you believe their articles? rhett o rick Sep 2015 #30

It's all an act. Notice the excessive use of "real Democrat" etc. arcane1 Sep 2015 #34

I just want to get the real story, I read HuffPo, it was weak. Darb Sep 2015 #42

Are we feeling defensive? arcane1 Sep 2015 #47

Get over yourself. Darb Sep 2015 #53

it will be a 'bullshit attack' until it isn't. when it isn't, what then? I would like to tell a few roguevalley Sep 2015 #74

As always w/ Clintons;it's not the crime-it's the cover-up. Divernan Sep 2015 #64

There may not be an available link to Brock's e-mail passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #25

I have read the HuffPo article and it is wanting. Darb Sep 2015 #31

I'm a better Democrat than Clinton will ever be. arcane1 Sep 2015 #37

When you get the email, post it. Darb Sep 2015 #44

Gladly :) arcane1 Sep 2015 #56

if you had hillary reading it they wouldn't believe it. True believers of the Democrat Crew roguevalley Sep 2015 #75

Well, according to Darb, they are "loyal" dems passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #92

so Hillary is the "victim" , because the SuperPAC she coordinates with sent a slime email.... virtualobserver Sep 2015 #126

Perhaps Huffpo or Brock would be willing to send you a copy passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #68

Personally, I'm dying to read it. And post it here and see how fast people drop out of the thread arcane1 Sep 2015 #81

Thanks MF! KoKo Sep 2015 #10

Except for the actual Brock email. Darb Sep 2015 #23

K&R..... daleanime Sep 2015 #11

corward David Brock Truprogressive85 Sep 2015 #12

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Sep 2015 #14

It's part of the red-baiting campaign Prism Sep 2015 #16

Could anyone post the email please? Eriteo Sep 2015 #21

You'd have to ask Brock or Huffpo for a copy of the e-mail. passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #61

How did this guy work for the Heritage Foundation AND found Media Matters. He's a force. ancianita Sep 2015 #24

Look up David Brock, Anita Hill. madfloridian Sep 2015 #26

Thanks, I will! He also wrote a Hillary biography, and she's loved him ever since. They seem like ancianita Sep 2015 #33

Did you read this email? Darb Sep 2015 #39

Brock admitted he sent that email. He called it "standard opposition 1monster Sep 2015 #160

They won't be satisfied until they see the long-form birth certificate. frylock Sep 2015 #168

Thanks for your thread Mad. We got Bernie's back Catherina Sep 2015 #29

Yes, we do have his back. Thanks Catherina. madfloridian Sep 2015 #32

Associate her with Kissinger in TV ads and you've got the veteran vote. ancianita Sep 2015 #38

That won't be hard to do! Check This Out! KoKo Sep 2015 #131

Holy crap! Awesome! Thanks! ancianita Sep 2015 #145

Kind of makes you want to vomit... Peace Patriot Sep 2015 #172

It is obscene to go after Sen. Sanders for helping his poorer constituents. historylovr Sep 2015 #35

Yes, it is. madfloridian Sep 2015 #152

Well, there goes Hillary's "civil" campaign. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #36

Oh, you read Brock's email? Post it, I'd like to see it. Darb Sep 2015 #48

yawn. roguevalley Sep 2015 #76

Where is the email? Tough question to answer?? Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #102

Goodness. Aerows Sep 2015 #148

Do you really think we haven't seen your refrain over and over in this thread? DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #106

Super-boring, broken-record right stuff here. Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #154

The conservatives are getting nervous.... fbc Sep 2015 #46

Yeah. It really pisses them off, especially with it being her turn and all. GoneFishin Sep 2015 #116

so clintonian, and i don't mean that as a compliment restorefreedom Sep 2015 #51

Hugo Chavez was a "communist dictator"? Peace Patriot Sep 2015 #59

I read that as in reference to the media creation, not the actual Chavez. arcane1 Sep 2015 #63

So did I. madfloridian Sep 2015 #66

Ah! Maybe I mis-read it. I hope so. Peace Patriot Sep 2015 #123

they will spin that as hard as they can reddread Sep 2015 #128

I think he said communist because that is the implication they are trying to paint on him. roguevalley Sep 2015 #77

Isn't it a neo-con thing to hate on Hugo Chavez and Venezuela? reformist2 Sep 2015 #60

The only direction they can attack from is the right. And Brock knows the right very well. arcane1 Sep 2015 #67

Leopards and sleaze merchants don't change their spots. bullwinkle428 Sep 2015 #65

What this shows Robbins Sep 2015 #70

It was an email sent to Huffington not a slam put out by Correct the Record upaloopa Sep 2015 #86

Where is the correction/clarification/denial? SoapBox Sep 2015 #95

So all this is is just another misrepresented smear? No one outside Huff gets to see the actual email? Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #98

I don't know who gets to see the email upaloopa Sep 2015 #107

If Hillary fails to win DonCoquixote Sep 2015 #89

Found DU post from 2005 explaining more about Chavez, Citgo, and Bernie and Vermonters. madfloridian Sep 2015 #91

Thank you! SoapBox Sep 2015 #97

Great find!! arcane1 Sep 2015 #100

Exactly as predicted. If Hillary is calling out the big guns, she must be desperate. SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #99

What I don't get is why any Dem would consider the cheaper oil a negative. pnwmom Sep 2015 #105

Anything that can be twisted into a negative is going to be ammunition for politicians and pacs HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #115

Arrogance and stupidity all in the same package in trying to smear Sanders in this fashion Babel_17 Sep 2015 #112

Anita Hill Brock? Paula Jones Brock? yeeuuuurgh MisterP Sep 2015 #117

Kick! FloriTexan Sep 2015 #119

.... madfloridian Sep 2015 #120

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #122

Watch Brock on TV not apologizing, not explaining. madfloridian Sep 2015 #130

unfortunately, this will harm Media Matters grasswire Sep 2015 #132

Got sucked back into MSM...Brock Crashed & Burned on Bloomberg's Business Show KoKo Sep 2015 #136

Lots of comments on this thread demanding links that don't exist, so I thought maybe PatrickforO Sep 2015 #133

Nice post, clear explanation. madfloridian Sep 2015 #137

You should make a seperate post in the Sanders group about that money bomb frylock Sep 2015 #139

Demanding links and evidence repeatedly is just an old thread-jacking tactic. djean111 Sep 2015 #156

Operation Jack Ruby reddread Sep 2015 #157

Desperate times call for desperate measures emsimon33 Sep 2015 #135

dark money portlander23 Sep 2015 #144

I thought, even with Citizens United, it was against the law for PACs DJ13 Sep 2015 #155

Questions have been raised over whether Brock's "Correct the Record" KoKo Sep 2015 #159

K&R raouldukelives Sep 2015 #158

"Dead communist dictator"? nyabingi Sep 2015 #165

I think Bernie was mimicking the media's portrayal of Chavez Oilwellian Sep 2015 #170

I think it's pretty clear to Hillary nyabingi Sep 2015 #171

Hard working people....White people....want to know if Bernard Sanders is really a.... Ikonoklast Sep 2015 #166

that's really too bad as I like Media Matters. rosesaylavee Sep 2015 #167

Media Matters is a great source. Used it for years. madfloridian Sep 2015 #169