2016 Postmortem

merrily

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78. Heartening to see respect for the rule of law.

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Thu Sep 3, 2015, 06:05 AM

Sep 2015

I heard this story last night but didn't bother to post it.

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IT Staffer who set-up Hillary's private email server is pleading the 5th [View all] askew Sep 2015 OP

Sneering dismissals appearing soon. DavidDvorkin Sep 2015 #1

DU needs a sneering smiley MoveIt Sep 2015 #2

That's a great idea. DavidDvorkin Sep 2015 #6

how's this one? teach me everything Sep 2015 #53

And precinct captains. merrily Sep 2015 #72

UNCLEAR HOW CLOSELY REGULATIONS FOLLOWED riversedge Sep 2015 #8

How does the "she may not have been the only one" defense work for most people? merrily Sep 2015 #73

Hell of a way to demean and dismiss the opinions of those that disagree with you... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #98

Some opinions aren't worthy of anything more. DavidDvorkin Sep 2015 #114

Interesting development. morningfog Sep 2015 #3

He's exercising his constitutional rights and pleading the fifth moobu2 Sep 2015 #4

optics. He doesn't want to incriminate himself. Get it? delrem Sep 2015 #11

Oh it's something. It will keep this going with another chapter. morningfog Sep 2015 #16

This isn't going to get any better for Hillary. askew Sep 2015 #31

If they restrict questions to what he did as an employee? Babel_17 Sep 2015 #60

He can not be made to testify against himself. moobu2 Sep 2015 #69

They can give him immunity, but that doesn't always work well. merrily Sep 2015 #75

You know it’s all bullshit!! busterbrown Sep 2015 #68

I don't blame the guy Travis_0004 Sep 2015 #44

Isn't that what his lawyer is supposed to tell him? merrily Sep 2015 #76

You can't possibly be serious. merrily Sep 2015 #74

This is wishful thinking and speculation tymorial Sep 2015 #151

"in which she exclusively used private e-mail for her work as secretary of state" AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #5

You better go correct her lawyers then. jeff47 Sep 2015 #12

I read it the opposite: official work was done exclusively via private email n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #15

In which case almost every email on the server would have been classified AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #19

Likely, assuming more business emails were sent/received than personal ones. arcane1 Sep 2015 #21

From your link... BooScout Sep 2015 #7

Our allies and enemies are watching this shit and DURHAM D Sep 2015 #10

Gowdy is using the committee for the political purpose of trying to smear... George II Sep 2015 #89

LOL - so many idiots so little time DURHAM D Sep 2015 #9

It's called a STE. jeff47 Sep 2015 #13

So if you are across the desk from each other DURHAM D Sep 2015 #28

Now try to read the second sentence of that post. jeff47 Sep 2015 #30

Well Jeff - you didn't explain what a secure whatever is. DURHAM D Sep 2015 #37

No, the truth is I'm not desperately flailing about for dumb reasons to ignore the story jeff47 Sep 2015 #41

LOL - great on the 'I'm not desperately flailing...' comment. That's pithy. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #51

Nah, that would be silly. You use the Cone of Silence, of course! Buns_of_Fire Sep 2015 #58

No, the cone of silence.... louis-t Sep 2015 #128

You don't seem to know anything about data security with respect to the federal government. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #14

And you don't seem to read well. DURHAM D Sep 2015 #26

Well that stings a little. But you're right and I was wrong. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #153

You use... PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #23

LOL. n/t FourScore Sep 2015 #45

You use a Secure Telephone Unit (STU). It's a big phone with a key, you turn the key and you MADem Sep 2015 #38

The truth is that so much of the state department's work, DURHAM D Sep 2015 #43

A shitload of it comes right off the front pages of foreign newspapers and magazines. MADem Sep 2015 #46

Look how far in the weeds we are and much of it because of alleged liberals bashing Hillary randys1 Sep 2015 #142

Yep, and alleged is an operative term. MADem Sep 2015 #154

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This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Sep 2015 #18

i'll take Cummings' statement above for the truth, Alexis! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #20

I'm aware of it. Don't give a shit. I say this as a Sanders supporter. cheapdate Sep 2015 #22

Discussed on Lawrence show. elleng Sep 2015 #24

What did Lawrence say? askew Sep 2015 #29

Wondered what 'self-incrimination' at issue. elleng Sep 2015 #32

Yeah, I am curious about that. askew Sep 2015 #34

you said "What Did Lawrence Say?" I can tell you randys1 Sep 2015 #140

That is what is called a big drop nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #25

Do you understand what "pleading the fifth" means? If you think this is "bad news for Hillary" then MADem Sep 2015 #27

It means no evidence 6chars Sep 2015 #54

It means the guy does not want to incriminate HIMSELF. MADem Sep 2015 #57

His job description might have entailed reporting on lapses in security Babel_17 Sep 2015 #61

Who knows? He's not talking because he's worried about himself, though-not anyone else. nt MADem Sep 2015 #63

"One can't "plead the fifth" to protect a boss or an associate." Oh yes they can if they did... aikoaiko Sep 2015 #91

Oh boy ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #107

Show me case law where someone did something illegal and was forced to testify aikoaiko Sep 2015 #109

That's not what you said ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #110

That's not protecting the boss, though. That's protecting themselves. MADem Sep 2015 #117

I am truly agnostic on the whole email thing. It wouldn't surprise me if they was or wasn't aikoaiko Sep 2015 #121

Oh sure, it could happen, I absolutely acknowledge that. MADem Sep 2015 #123

and obviously doesn't know what happened during the McCarthey hearings still_one Sep 2015 #56

+1. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #108

It means he believes he is exposed to criminal liability. That is not good morningfog Sep 2015 #80

How is it "not good for Hillary" if a low level worker takes the fifth about HIS -- not her-- MADem Sep 2015 #82

It what world is this a good thing for Hillary? morningfog Sep 2015 #83

Or he is smartly aware there is a witch hunt by the GOP and others, people who claim to be Democrats randys1 Sep 2015 #127

That is not a ground to invoke the 5th amendment. morningfog Sep 2015 #130

This guy has such limited technical background Halliburton Sep 2015 #33

Well, it would explain why the server had the default encryption keys installed... (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #35

Yeah, I am sure he is regretting ever installing that server now. askew Sep 2015 #39

It is just dumb artislife Sep 2015 #71

"He now works for a technology contractor that provides some services to the State Department." It Metric System Sep 2015 #42

I wouldn't jump to conclusions. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #67

I don't blame him.pleading the fith with this Congress bigdarryl Sep 2015 #36

+1 GitRDun Sep 2015 #49

Rep. Elijah Cummings has it right in the article. Leave it to Sanders supporters to side with Gowdy Metric System Sep 2015 #40

OUCH. Truth sure hurts! But that IS the truth....and I'm guessing the candidate doesn't MADem Sep 2015 #47

Indeed. nt DURHAM D Sep 2015 #50

Yep, and thus far every supposed damning revelation has fizzled out to nothing. stevenleser Sep 2015 #62

If your candidate wasn't so reckless at State, AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #65

"Your candidate"? George II Sep 2015 #86

Yes ... sad, sad state ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #103

We are LONG past the charade that some folks here support a liberal for president. randys1 Sep 2015 #141

I guess it's ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #101

I am glad you limited that to Sanders supporters and not Bernie himself. I agree that MANY randys1 Sep 2015 #134

Subpoenaed by Howdy Gowdy? Oh noes! It's over for Hillary! Metric System Sep 2015 #48

Amazing that on a progressive board some assume guilt if the 5th is taken. That is what a Kangaroo still_one Sep 2015 #55

Well, it is a progressive board, sort of. Designed to be but has MANY non liberals on it. randys1 Sep 2015 #135

You do realize there are many people who plead the fifth when testifying before Congress, and not still_one Sep 2015 #52

Given the cost of lawyers ... Babel_17 Sep 2015 #59

Curious as to why she used a campaign staffer to be her personal IT guy, and THEN TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #64

The answer to that may go all the way back to 'travelgate' HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #79

I thought you were joking bringing up "Travelgate." I should have known better. Metric System Sep 2015 #126

Travelgate really was the non-Arkansas public's first introduction to Clinton's and patronage HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #150

As would I. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #66

False, but I guess posting it gave you comfort anyway. merrily Sep 2015 #77

You wouldn't take the fifth in front of Trey Gowdy? nt msanthrope Sep 2015 #104

Of course she wouldn't ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #106

The 101st Chairborne are special ops keyboard warriors. nt msanthrope Sep 2015 #129

I was just told that being afraid you are being railroaded is not a reason you can claim randys1 Sep 2015 #137

people like that always made fantastic goddamn clients. msanthrope Sep 2015 #147

There is a word that often describes individuals who fail to follow an attorney's advice: OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #111

That is PATENTLY false ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #99

I meant everyone posting here does not need to avoid incriminating themselves. merrily Sep 2015 #113

Any competent attorney would offer this advice under the circumstances. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #115

Do you really want to plead the fifth for no earthly reason, then try to get certain kinds of jobs? merrily Sep 2015 #118

Bye. (n/t) OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #120

Before a Republican witch hunt/kangaroo court? You're damned right I would DonViejo Sep 2015 #136

No no no, right here on this thread i have been ASSURED you cant exercise that right randys1 Sep 2015 #138

Guess what? It is a nothingburger eridani Sep 2015 #70

Heartening to see respect for the rule of law. merrily Sep 2015 #78

What are you talking about? ... Respect for Rule of Law? 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #100

Yeah, that one's weird. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #119

DemocratSinceBirth, had the perfect response to this crap ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #122

He deserves an Attaboy for that one. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #125

Do they hate Women this much? What is the reason the HATE and BASHING of Hillary randys1 Sep 2015 #143

LOL ... n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #148

Drip, drip, drip! nt Romulox Sep 2015 #81

So Mr. Pagliano was subpoenaed by Trey Gowdy's Benghazi Committee with no input... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #84

And its sad that people here, who presumably are DEMOCRATS, are jumping on the Republican.... George II Sep 2015 #85

Cheryl Mills is testifying today. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #87

As a 40+ year Democrat, me too! And as of this morning her request has been denied. George II Sep 2015 #90

Hillary's 10/22 testimony is going to be a circus... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #92

It's going to give each republican member of the committee a soapbox on which... George II Sep 2015 #93

And later on 10/22, into 10/23 ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #96

Against you? ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #95

"Presumably are DEMOCRATS"??? ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #94

Gloating and if you confront them you are silenced as they seem to outnumber the randys1 Sep 2015 #144

Sigh. tymorial Sep 2015 #152

Gowdy and the GOP are on a witch hunt.... Adrahil Sep 2015 #88

Actually ... I would say this is a republican attempt to destroy the entire Democratic brand ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #97

Correct DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #102

Oh, Damn ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #105

Remember, Gowdy would have HATED the Ambassador who was killed. randys1 Sep 2015 #145

Don't care. kenfrequed Sep 2015 #112

I am not a Bernie supporter. I'm an O'Malley supporter. askew Sep 2015 #132

I have. kenfrequed Sep 2015 #133

Reporting this on CNN now ram2008 Sep 2015 #116

Your concern is noted. But I agree that Gowdy and company have made a mess of the Benghazi hearings Metric System Sep 2015 #124

The last paragraph is very telling Motown_Johnny Sep 2015 #131

Maybe he's the guy that wiped the server clean. morningfog Sep 2015 #139

shit gets real Hiraeth Sep 2015 #146

not sure what planet someone is on if, as SOS, they think it is acceptable to transact official Agony Sep 2015 #149