2016 Postmortem

Doingto

(135 posts) Wed Sep 2, 2015, 12:48 PM Sep 2015

New Iowa poll unlikely to be covered by the MSM [View all]

Because this poll has Hillary leading Sanders by a 25% margin (48-23%).
The fact that this poll was conducted with just a one - day difference after the Desmoines Register poll where Sanders was down by just 7% suggests that the DM poll may have been an outlier.
But this would not make for good yellow anti-Hillary horse-race journalism
The New York Times won't go nuts about it. Politico won't go nuts about it.
http://loras.edu/About-Loras/News-Events/News/2015/Clinton-Leads-but-Sanders-Gains,-Loras-College-Pol.aspx

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New Iowa poll unlikely to be covered by the MSM [View all] Doingto Sep 2015 OP

That's encouraging DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #1

Wow. With a much higher sample rate than most polls as well. KNR! SonderWoman Sep 2015 #2

And don't forget the poll 3 days before the DM one Godhumor Sep 2015 #3

The Selzer poll is usually pretty good . DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #8

Selzer is very well respected, but outliers happen regardless Godhumor Sep 2015 #12

The one out of twenty chance that your poll is FUBAR DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #17

Your population parameter is a hypothetical Godhumor Sep 2015 #22

Thank you for the elaborate explanation. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #31

Good explanation, thanks. George II Sep 2015 #42

By randomness dsc Sep 2015 #33

Thank you...I knew that... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #34

mainly it happens because the sample ends up with too many dsc Sep 2015 #35

Fearful of actually reading your own linked article? Android3.14 Sep 2015 #4

No oopsies. Its the truth. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #7

Did her level of support decrease to a 7% lead? Doingto Sep 2015 #9

Was the previous poll conducted before or after Sanders announced he was running? Doingto Sep 2015 #10

Sanders hadn't announced prior to the April poll..."Oopsies" indeed! George II Sep 2015 #43

At this point, it's pretty much impossible to deny that the media is anti-Hillary. nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #5

The media pretends Sanders doesn't exist AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #11

No coverage is better than bad coverage Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #13

If Sanders was covered to the extend Hillary is AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #14

If Hillary was covered as little as Sanders, her lead would grow Doingto Sep 2015 #16

lol AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #24

Oh yeah? Doingto Sep 2015 #15

Yeah, it's absurd. Everyday they post 50 Bernie articles, but... SonderWoman Sep 2015 #19

Ever heard of the TV box? AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #26

Interesting. Iliyah Sep 2015 #6

Not worried. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #18

How about this one?: SonderWoman Sep 2015 #23

Loras College --from OP is likely causas goers riversedge Sep 2015 #27

Oh, well. We get to be non pulsed and Fawke Em Sep 2015 #60

actually Loras had them neck to neck a week out. riversedge Sep 2015 #30

That makes your point? Fawke Em Sep 2015 #62

Outlier? AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #20

Possibly. No polling organization is 100% accurate. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #21

Of the last 15 polls released, only one had Clinton under 45%, the Des Moines Register poll..... George II Sep 2015 #44

I consider the Des Moines Register the expert on Iowa - AS THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #48

Possible, of course..... Adrahil Sep 2015 #64

Clinton is viewed favorably by 77.5 percent of respondents, and Sanders by 60.8 percent. riversedge Sep 2015 #25

i see iowa going along about this then a week of .... sanders STRIKING distance, 7% difference. seabeyond Sep 2015 #28

Since their last poll in April, Clinton is down 9% and Sanders is up 21%. mhatrw Sep 2015 #29

Sanders wasn't a candidate when the April poll was taken. George II Sep 2015 #45

Des Moines Register/Bloomberg has been the standard-bearer for Iowa polling. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #32

that is total hogwash dsc Sep 2015 #36

Do you dispute the Des Moines Register/Bloomberg poll is the standard bearer? AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #37

either put up or shut up dsc Sep 2015 #38

Those Bernie supporters are such meanies! Believing polling not favorable to Hillary. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #39

I can't read your link dsc Sep 2015 #40

There isn't a link in the post you responded to. George II Sep 2015 #47

it showed as a link in my post dsc Sep 2015 #57

It's a snarky picture. You're not missing any proof for the outrageous accusations Godhumor Sep 2015 #49

No link. Surprise, surprise lunamagica Sep 2015 #52

Look at this list - which poll is the "outlier"? George II Sep 2015 #46

The Des Moines Register is THE polling for Iowa and it has always been that way. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #50

And where can we find anything about them being THE polling for Iowa? I've never heard that before. George II Sep 2015 #51

The fact that you do not know this does not make it untrue. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #53

You venture wrong. I'm 67 years old and have been DIRECTLY involved in politics.... George II Sep 2015 #54

She's right, Selzar is very well respected. They have earned respect for their work Godhumor Sep 2015 #55

Oh... maybe you need to step back. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #61

Maybe you and your clique should STOP telling others what to say or believe!!!! George II Sep 2015 #63

By the way, I just looked up the DMR poll and final caucus results from 2008 George II Sep 2015 #56

Has seltzer ever been this far from the rest? Nt Doingto Sep 2015 #59

That one doesn't get much attention in the media. George II Sep 2015 #41

Poll is crap. Biden is 6 pts behind Bernie without even running? B Fucking S. Elmer S. E. Dump Sep 2015 #58