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2016 Postmortem

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1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 11:26 AM Sep 2015

For DU (and my preferred candidate) the DNC has scheduled too few debates ... [View all]

and too late. The DNC has instituted an exclusivity rule, that prevents Democratic candidates from participating in the DNC debates, should they participate in outside debates.

Does ANYONE think that would be enforceable if, both, M.O'M AND Bernie participate in an/several outside event(s)?

Though, I am not troubled by, neither, the number, nor the timing of the DNC debates, I would welcome this move by the two trailing candidates, as bold and forceful ... and far better than complaining about a "rigged system" that they are tying themselves to.

Now ... two points: This would only work if BOTH trailing candidates acted ... the DNC could exclude/punish one of the trailers, but not both, as who would be left to debate? Webb? ... Chaffee? ... who are polling in the single digits?

Secondly, before M.O'M and Bernie pulled that trigger, they could/should significantly increase their odds, if they announced their intentions behind closed doors, prior to announcing their intent publicly, or just doing it. (The reality of success favors allowing for face saving)

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THey are banned if they do other debates? FUCK THAT, everybody send an email HERE randys1 Sep 2015 #1
People writing in would help ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #4
Oh yeah, I forgot to remark on what you said, I was so pissed. randys1 Sep 2015 #5
Martin O'Malley has done this; the other(s) not so much. elleng Sep 2015 #13
Does that explain the ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #17
Something like that probably, Man. elleng Sep 2015 #26
Uh ... 16, include sitting TWO Congress folks; but, more relevantly ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #28
OH GOOD! I guess I've missed some! elleng Sep 2015 #29
This guy couldn't even bring himself to agree with O'Malley on the issue. delrem Sep 2015 #49
Imagine that? Someone supporting a candidate, while ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #61
Considering that it was your OP, yes, I would guess so! delrem Sep 2015 #62
Ailrghty then ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #63
It's your OP. You figure it out. delrem Sep 2015 #64
No ... I'll just write you off as wanting to say what you are afraid to say. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #66
OK, but I said exactly what I meant to say. And you know it. delrem Sep 2015 #67
I didn't understand what you were attempting to convey, other than a tone of dislike ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #70
OK! That makes me happy! delrem Sep 2015 #71
Okay! That was easy ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #72
And leave the official debate to Hillary, Chafee and Webb? Are you kidding? merrily Sep 2015 #54
i like the number 6. i like 3. not everyone is me. lol. i get that. so double. TOO late, i think seabeyond Sep 2015 #2
Unless the front runner is in the debate, they would be ignored. morningfog Sep 2015 #3
Not true ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #6
I do not agree, as you implied, that we should purposely stir up internal strife to gain media attention. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #7
What terms did MuseRider Sep 2015 #8
What would a debate between O'Malley and Sanders upaloopa Sep 2015 #9
There would be no point. They would say how their positions are different from HIllary without her morningfog Sep 2015 #12
I would look for two distinguish elements ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #18
Yes, both should act, elleng Sep 2015 #10
I am good with six debates. I think our election process/season is too long as it is. However, I Hiraeth Sep 2015 #11
"why there needs to be an exclusivity rule." MoveIt Sep 2015 #69
I actually agree with you, and wish Sanders would do that Armstead Sep 2015 #14
Hmm... my spidey sense is tingling... whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #15
Because it won't be a risk if both he and Bernie acted in concert ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #19
How do you feel M'OM has the most to gain whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #20
Most voters are burned out by Election Day. livetohike Sep 2015 #16
That's why I don't have a problem with the number or schedule ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #21
Then why the pointless OP? whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #22
Yes, let's just dispense with campaigns altogether Armstead Sep 2015 #23
agree completely. regardless of who you support, this is a horrible debate program. Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #24
I really don't trust the DNC to buckle to that kind of pressure. aikoaiko Sep 2015 #25
I like this. brush Sep 2015 #27
At which point the peanut gallery will go "See! We told you they're not real Democrats!" Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #30
Well Martin O'Malley ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #31
I don't have a guy. But at least you admit what you're trying to do, here. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #32
And what would that be ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #33
Debbie Wasserman Schultz is a train wreck running the DNC. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #34
And how do you propose fixing it? ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #35
Pfft. She IS a threat to the larger DNC brand. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #36
Not nessarily ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #37
Oh, yeah, she's widely beloved. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #38
I suspect, at least liked, by the DNC leadership ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #39
well I'm sure you fancy yourself an expert on many things. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #40
I only fancy myself an expert in a couple things ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #42
All I'm saying is, you shouldn't make blanket assumptions about who is or isn't a "core Democrat" Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #46
It's so blatant it's unreal. n/t delrem Sep 2015 #53
Would Howard Dean take it after the election? Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #57
Bernie won't and shouldn't give HRC an out for not debating him. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #41
She's going to debate him six times. bigwillq Sep 2015 #52
My point was that if he went with the OP Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #56
Oh dear lord, who exists/doesn't-exist as to your preference. delrem Sep 2015 #43
What the hell are you talking about? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #44
You. delrem Sep 2015 #45
Ha! yep. Funny man is he. His other OP about the camps gave me a good laugh, too. Hiraeth Sep 2015 #48
Yup! He's fooling us all! We're so dumb! n/t delrem Sep 2015 #50
Clearly, you are talking about me ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #58
That's fine. n/t delrem Sep 2015 #59
They should go for it BainsBane Sep 2015 #47
Exactly Andy823 Sep 2015 #65
They'd be thrilled to toss Bernie and/or O'Malley off the stage MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #51
Right, that's what they WANT, elleng Sep 2015 #55
A little taste of the authoritarianism to come if DWS's candidate wins. senz Sep 2015 #68
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Sep 2015 #60
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