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In reply to the discussion: So you ask "why it matters" that Hillary regularly has fund-raising dinners for thousands of $$$? [View all]short circuit
(145 posts)93. A bit behind, aren't you Garrett?
Bernie has the ground game going, and Bernie is already encouraging and inspiring people to run for local offices as a progressive.
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So you ask "why it matters" that Hillary regularly has fund-raising dinners for thousands of $$$? [View all]
Bonobo
Aug 2015
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IMO, it's even worse than that. We were sold kabuki theater and most of us are still buying
merrily
Aug 2015
#48
It is going to be the #1 issue in this campaign, Citizens United and the corrupting effects of
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#97
Yes, and running on getting money out of politics with a fundraising goal of $2.5 billion
merrily
Aug 2015
#107
No it's not, and Biden, who may run also, more or less said that in the speech where he almost
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#132
Small contributions; under $200 to Bernie, make up over 80% of the total, small contributions
Uncle Joe
Aug 2015
#5
That's interesting that you should bring that up, despite Hillary having overwhelming financial
Uncle Joe
Aug 2015
#15
Bernie has no chance against the GOP. He doesn't have much of a chance in the primaries either,
DanTex
Aug 2015
#23
Bernie is drawing the largest crowds of any candidate, Democrat or Republican.
Uncle Joe
Aug 2015
#26
Last time I think it was Ron Paul with the big crowds in the primaries. So there's that.
DanTex
Aug 2015
#29
Bernie is no Obama. For a lot of reasons. And being black is not even close to the electability
DanTex
Aug 2015
#34
I doubt many African Americans felt that being black wasn't a huge impediment in
Uncle Joe
Aug 2015
#39
Well, you'd have to ask them. But fortunately we have polls that can determine how poorly the
DanTex
Aug 2015
#42
That poll is flawed as socialist is the only political entry, it would be better
Uncle Joe
Aug 2015
#49
Yes, if you included "nazi" I'm sure it would do worse, but it's still very telling.
DanTex
Aug 2015
#58
That cites the same Gallup poll saying that only 47% of Americans would vote for a socialist.
DanTex
Aug 2015
#62
That trend is going up and if you read the article, even just the part I posted
Uncle Joe
Aug 2015
#63
Nothing like a Bernie supporter who keeps saying he can't win while the rest of us are
merrily
Aug 2015
#85
He "can't raise enough money" but his "support is greatest among wealthy white males"?
arcane1
Aug 2015
#152
And yet, he does not milk them for money or give them extra "ear-time" over glasses of bubbly. nt
Bonobo
Aug 2015
#6
Money in politics is not a new issue, Dan. The real problem has accelerated since 1992 when...
Bonobo
Aug 2015
#14
Citizens United is the most pressing issue right now, though. If we lose in 2016
DanTex
Aug 2015
#21
My point is that, since 1992, politicians that reject public matching funds and say they will change
Bonobo
Aug 2015
#27
The first candidate to reject public funds in the GE was Obama. So there's exactly one example
DanTex
Aug 2015
#33
Yes, for the General election. But it has happened many, many times with primary candidates.
Bonobo
Aug 2015
#37
Yes, conspiracy surely is the only way to explain that corporations donate to both parties
Bonobo
Aug 2015
#66
It's ironic that CU may be used to buy the WH for Clinton. What's not ironic is how
rhett o rick
Aug 2015
#135
Not only that, but the anti-Hillary people even attack her for meeting with small groups
DanTex
Aug 2015
#13
SAMLL Groups is the key word, she speaks to SMALL hand picked groups of people
Perry Smith
Aug 2015
#17
Well, I'll take the candidate that takes the personal approach over the megachurch any day.
Amimnoch
Aug 2015
#47
Yep, way lower. Might as well call him a Nazi along with that clown at the National Review.
beerandjesus
Aug 2015
#138
Your point is that Bernie fills statiums with his message; and that is bad how?
Vincardog
Aug 2015
#127
yeah, those damn workers, why should they have a voice in the election?
virtualobserver
Aug 2015
#111
It depends on how you weigh the issues. It's not a cop out, sorry if you don't like that. nt
MADem
Aug 2015
#193
Not sure why you bother. You know what they're going to say. They've been saying the same things
merrily
Aug 2015
#52
Honestly, there's way too much attention to "bashing Hillary" and too little on the job experience.
Sancho
Aug 2015
#53
No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go
cantbeserious
Aug 2015
#56
We've tried the lesser-of-evils approach over and over and over. I am over it. 100% over it.
GoneFishin
Aug 2015
#71
So you ask "why it matters" that Warren regularly has fund-raising dinners for thousands of $$$?
brooklynite
Aug 2015
#78
It's not a matter of stereotypes, it is a matter of disconnect. The wealthy cannot understand
RadiationTherapy
Aug 2015
#86
If Sanders wins the primary, he automatically has a great chance to win the general election
Babel_17
Aug 2015
#84
So twitter and social media are magic and eliminates the need for money in campaigns
Gothmog
Aug 2015
#129
McGovern was running against a sitting President (generally results in failure)
Babel_17
Aug 2015
#134
The GOP is looking forward to engaging with Clinton, they fear Sanders popularity
Babel_17
Aug 2015
#179
It is start that a Sanders supporter will abandon the magical thinking that money is not necessary
Gothmog
Aug 2015
#118
Gothmog, as a fellow Tolkien freak, I will try to be kind to you and not say what I really think.
Bonobo
Aug 2015
#155
Thats what it comes down to. Selling access. Ain't no way to disguise the stench of that. nt
Bonobo
Aug 2015
#161
the kissenger shit enough should DQ her from thinking of running.. but.. this is 'merka
dionysus
Aug 2015
#189
How will the addiction be broken if Sanders is not viable in the general election
Gothmog
Aug 2015
#181
The premise of this thread is silly unless someone can explain how Sanders is viable
Gothmog
Aug 2015
#184
Lessig is all over the map, and now thinking of running against Sanders and Clinton
Babel_17
Aug 2015
#188
What kind of favors do you owe when you're paid $200,000 to speak at Goldman Sachs?
L0oniX
Aug 2015
#190