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43. I think she should give a speech to explain it to the public

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Fri Aug 21, 2015, 03:16 PM

Aug 2015

here's a good example

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it's not the classified stuff that bugs me about the email mess. it's what the mess says about [View all] cali Aug 2015 OP

The attacks on Hillary will NEVER stop. And as we can now see, those who oppose her randys1 Aug 2015 #1

Then she needs to be able to deal with them, and she can't. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #72

EXACTLY what all the rightwingers are telling me on the internet, EXACTLY what you just randys1 Aug 2015 #73

I bet they also say that water is wet and the sky is blue. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #84

Lots of those opponents here at DU, I wish they would go to a place where rightwing talk randys1 Aug 2015 #85

Truth should be accepted anywhere Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #89

What truth am I rejecting? The truth according to who? randys1 Aug 2015 #91

That she needs to be able to deal with the attacks, Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #95

And yet she's far ahead of Sanders. That is truth. Deal with it. George II Aug 2015 #101

A little less every day.... every day.... every day.... Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #104

to you and your cohorts all criticism of Hillary is right wing cali Aug 2015 #90

So if someone doesn't feel the way that YOU virgogal Aug 2015 #94

I thoroughly expect rightwingers to hate and attack Hillary, I wont take that away from them randys1 Aug 2015 #98

there is nothing remotely hateful in my op cali Aug 2015 #206

The RW has no messageboards at all like DU, not a single one. RW has never invited open discussions. Sunlei Aug 2015 #108

NOt on most explicit rw boards, I do know one where nobody is banned for any reason randys1 Aug 2015 #110

Unlike DU, They're probaby afraid to ban anyone who pays by the month. Sunlei Aug 2015 #132

Listening to caller after caller into all the shows today about Hillary and email randys1 Aug 2015 #134

IMO, if after RW raked over decades of Mrs. Clintons work and all they have is an old school email s Sunlei Aug 2015 #137

He is next on the list, i am sure randys1 Aug 2015 #139

Really? George II Aug 2015 #122

really. Sunlei Aug 2015 #129

Seems like you don't like 840high Aug 2015 #169

prove it. post some comments from wingnuts saying that cali Aug 2015 #120

Well, she's ahead of Sanders by 2-1 or more in every state but one. .. George II Aug 2015 #93

First of all, it is way to soon to lean on those. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #102

Two points: George II Aug 2015 #167

You are averaging in old polls which are no longer correct. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #191

Well then, if you look at the last four polls listed on Pollster, Sanders appears..... George II Aug 2015 #192

No. nt MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #183

Yes. nt George II Aug 2015 #193

What bugs ME is the willingness of people to use JUDICIAL WATCH horse shit on a Democratic message MADem Aug 2015 #82

blabitty bla bla bla.... get back to me when you got something new to groan about. boston bean Aug 2015 #2

you can stick your fingers in your ears and chant "I can't hear you" cali Aug 2015 #5

And you can say the same thing over and over, doesn't make what I said untrue. boston bean Aug 2015 #7

it's hardly just me saying it. cali Aug 2015 #11

Right it isn't just you, it's the entire GOP chorus along with you! boston bean Aug 2015 #12

it's scores of liberal pundits, elected dems and rank and file dems as well. cali Aug 2015 #19

Yeah, right! you keep saying that. boston bean Aug 2015 #44

It will depend on her GOP opponent whether he wins or not Armstead Aug 2015 #28

The email situation is of her own making. It's not a smear, it's a fact. Her sloppy handling Autumn Aug 2015 #123

Everyone's got an "opinion", some opinions are just conspiracy theories. boston bean Aug 2015 #196

No, people are voicing their concern over Autumn Aug 2015 #198

Just so happens all them "concerns" are the same as what Right Wingers fling at the wall. boston bean Aug 2015 #199

I hear those concerns from a lot of Democrats so OK. Of course they don't Autumn Aug 2015 #200

just cause you hear them from "Democrats" doesn't mean boston bean Aug 2015 #201

Unless one of her staff personally supervised the the "wiping" of the server, what was to jonno99 Aug 2015 #3

Even if they supervised that, what (other than professionalism) would have prevented them from doing karynnj Aug 2015 #25

so you choose to reward rw hate attack for your benefit, for your candidate. it never stops. seabeyond Aug 2015 #4

sorry, this has nothing to do with my support for Bernie. I've been opposed to hillary cali Aug 2015 #9

your bottom line is tear her down thru rw hate, rewarding their agenda. seabeyond Aug 2015 #10

fail seabey. I use liberal sources. cali Aug 2015 #21

liberal media? .... no agenda there, liberal sources for rw attack. i see no clarifications seabeyond Aug 2015 #23

that doesn't make any sense. cali Aug 2015 #29

Why not address the actual criticisms of her handling of the emails Vattel Aug 2015 #150

Supporters are blind kcjohn1 Aug 2015 #6

i am not a supporter, nor blind. please do not insult people simply because they disagree with you seabeyond Aug 2015 #13

No insults kcjohn1 Aug 2015 #36

calling people "blind" for disagreeing with you is not an insult? seabeyond Aug 2015 #38

There is different kcjohn1 Aug 2015 #42

TO hide Benghazi details, right! Wait, am I being punked, this is NOT randys1 Aug 2015 #75

You won't get an answer. 840high Aug 2015 #170

the fury born of denial is pretty interesting. cali Aug 2015 #30

"fury" i see not an ounce of fury. but, that is part of the game played. assign emotion, then insult seabeyond Aug 2015 #39

you are expressing fury. cali Aug 2015 #50

no. i am not. you persume to dictate peoples feelings over the net and expect to be taken seriously? seabeyond Aug 2015 #54

Sorry, but it most certainly IS the RW scandal machine making this into more than it is. blm Aug 2015 #8

you are flat out wrong. it is an issue cali Aug 2015 #17

For as many Democrats that you claim (and quote) that its an issue, there are five times as many.... George II Aug 2015 #27

of course most dems are going to close ranks behind her cali Aug 2015 #57

Of course. ... George II Aug 2015 #78

I think her viability is vanishing cali Aug 2015 #119

You're entitled to your opinion. I just hope that damage caused by you and others doesn't destroy.. George II Aug 2015 #131

it's the height of absurdity cali Aug 2015 #133

Get real - do you really think 840high Aug 2015 #171

+1000 sheshe2 Aug 2015 #159

IT is ONLY an issue if the media and the anti Clinton campaign, alive and well here at DU randys1 Aug 2015 #80

LOL - Horsepoo - Dems 'privately' express a lot of concern against Obama, Kerry, ACA, IRS, blm Aug 2015 #68

whatever. rave nonsensically on o your heart's content cali Aug 2015 #76

I'm not as easily entertained by RW propaganda as you. blm Aug 2015 #92

silly attempt at a smear by you. I don't do rw propaganda. I do facts cali Aug 2015 #124

I agree with Cali 100% in this OP and am impressed how clearly she articulated why it is a problem karynnj Aug 2015 #37

thanks,karynn cali Aug 2015 #51

I get that, but, who can claim that when she was taking the similar path as GOP SoS blm Aug 2015 #62

Correct. 840high Aug 2015 #172

Republicans are Hypocrits, we should not be Rilgin Aug 2015 #55

Laugh, laugh, I thought I'd cry. blm Aug 2015 #65

Turn it on yourself Rilgin Aug 2015 #69

Nope - I'm saying what I said. Neither Powell or Rice would even be asked and when it is known blm Aug 2015 #74

neither are running for president. neither had their own server. cali Aug 2015 #79

Yeah - If only HRC used the DNC's server, instead, THEN the corporate media would be OK blm Aug 2015 #86

Can you make a single argument other than Rilgin Aug 2015 #100

Then use your energy to DEMAND it across the board. blm Aug 2015 #106

No Rilgin Aug 2015 #116

LOL - No one here thinks that Dem politicians can be allowed to be AS bad. YOU want that blm Aug 2015 #117

flail, flail an more flail. cali Aug 2015 #126

You're welcome to show that ANY real DUer said Dems are allowed to be AS bad as GOPs. blm Aug 2015 #135

Again Rilgin Aug 2015 #140

^^ THIS ^^ jonno99 Aug 2015 #66

Demand ALL of DC turn over every email waylaid. ALL - or should it ONLY be these emails blm Aug 2015 #71

Well, don't you think that when one becomes a public servant that THAT (FOI requests) is to be jonno99 Aug 2015 #77

my understanding is that FOIA is to be followed, period HFRN Aug 2015 #87

Demand it of EVERY ONE OF THEM. Or, are you in harmony with the RW propaganda machine blm Aug 2015 #88

Why is this so hard to comprehend? YES! demand it of every one of them and the jonno99 Aug 2015 #97

Where is YOUR energy directed? Making the RW propagandists' load easier. blm Aug 2015 #103

"CorpMedia has its hooks" - no doubt. But it begs the question: why does the campaign jonno99 Aug 2015 #111

Come clean with what? With the horsesh!t narrative being catapulted? blm Aug 2015 #115

Yes - furthermore I don't 840high Aug 2015 #174

...+1 840high Aug 2015 #173

Well, she was one of a number of high-ranking people with private accounts back then, and Hortensis Aug 2015 #14

Well look at that a concerned Bernie supporter is very concerned saturnsring Aug 2015 #15

Did you ever think that it's a concerned Dem supporter.? 840high Aug 2015 #175

LOL! This is only an issue because you won't stop talking about it. randome Aug 2015 #16

wow. that's some potent denial you have going on cali Aug 2015 #18

So tell me what bad thing happened because of this. randome Aug 2015 #41

I'll answer my own request. Nothing. randome Aug 2015 #46

this mess is the bad thing. cali Aug 2015 #127

So nothing bad happened that you can point to. randome Aug 2015 #195

that her favorabilities are disastrous is a bad thing. she is the odds on favorite to cali Aug 2015 #197

This server thing is the most important issue this country faces!!!!!! JoePhilly Aug 2015 #32

You must live a sheltered 840high Aug 2015 #176

So was Benghazi. Sorry, I meant to say BENGHAZI! randome Aug 2015 #194

It's all about the perception of the voters. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #20

that's true, but I stand by what I wrote in the op cali Aug 2015 #24

I agree with your OP. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #34

"Less-than-honest-husband"? Is that you Mr. Starr? George II Aug 2015 #31

No, that's me who thinks Bill is less than honest. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #33

Trashing Bill... sheshe2 Aug 2015 #161

You never miss a chance to take a gratuitous (and unworthy) shot at Hillary Clinton, do you? George II Aug 2015 #22

how about actually addressing the specifics in the op? cali Aug 2015 #26

You nor anyone else has one lick of proof that Hillary boston bean Aug 2015 #35

no proof but there's evidence as posted in the op and there's common sense, critical cali Aug 2015 #47

There is no proof. Yet, you want to continually try to turn it into the worst, human failure, that boston bean Aug 2015 #49

Great post. Couldn't have said it better. Kingofalldems Aug 2015 #53

No - Occam's razor is about arriving at the simplest answer. So - what is the question? jonno99 Aug 2015 #70

. boston bean Aug 2015 #96

Proclaims the ostrich... jonno99 Aug 2015 #99

... sheshe2 Aug 2015 #163

At some point we have to just accept that the GOP is everywhere. randys1 Aug 2015 #81

OMG, this is sheshe2 Aug 2015 #162

I like cali's OP - sorry you don't. 840high Aug 2015 #177

Exactly, and as they say, innocent until PROVEN guilty.... George II Aug 2015 #130

Because they're just right wing talking points, and you just revel in the "scandal". George II Aug 2015 #128

I have to wonder why that is? sheshe2 Aug 2015 #164

I am a Hillary leaner - and I must agree with you - she got some darned awful advice . . . if she DrDan Aug 2015 #40

I am far from tech savvy, but I just don't get not separating work cali Aug 2015 #45

I can only speak for the two corporations I worked for . . . but there DrDan Aug 2015 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Aug 2015 #109

don't buy it DrDan Aug 2015 #144

Mixing work and personal is common, but dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #142

I think she should give a speech to explain it to the public HFRN Aug 2015 #43

In case you were curious. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #56

Looks like Juror 6 got it right . TheFarS1de Aug 2015 #121

How'd you know I was #6? Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #125

I'm not going to rag on Hillary too much about this yet, Blue_In_AK Aug 2015 #48

I'd forgotten about that. cali Aug 2015 #59

We have long memories up here Blue_In_AK Aug 2015 #61

Thanks for the reminder. 840high Aug 2015 #178

My thoughrs on the matter GitRDun Aug 2015 #52

i know little to nothing about puters. my question. all the people sending her work emails knew seabeyond Aug 2015 #58

actually an excellent thought. 100s, maybe 1000s of people who knew and said nothing. Sunlei Aug 2015 #113

Someone directed kcjohn1 Aug 2015 #60

Yes, I'd like to know whose idea it was! xynthee Aug 2015 #67

Perhaps Powell and Rice during the transition process? Why won't RW media ask them blm Aug 2015 #118

I understand the sentiment GitRDun Aug 2015 #143

Assuming it will go away is a mistake musiclawyer Aug 2015 #64

It won't go away. Wait till 840high Aug 2015 #179

? Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #83

lol ok GitRDun Aug 2015 #141

The lack of oversight is the problem here. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #147

You are talking about optics GitRDun Aug 2015 #149

I am talking about judgement. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #160

Now you are moving on to other subjects where you disagree with her GitRDun Aug 2015 #168

You can bet that some classified information was mishandled. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #190

I hear ya GitRDun Aug 2015 #207

I used to work in offices. I never accessed private e-mails in the office. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #105

I assume you'd never vote for her, even if she wins the primary. Sunlei Aug 2015 #107

you assume incorrectly. cali Aug 2015 #112

'of course' I do! Sunlei Aug 2015 #114

Blah, blah, blah. leftofcool Aug 2015 #136

denial, denial and more denial cali Aug 2015 #138

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Aug 2015 #145

The classified stuff is the real problem, tho The Traveler Aug 2015 #146

I recently deleted 5000 emails from my personal account. Lancero Aug 2015 #148

so you're a high ranking government official with one account for both your personal cali Aug 2015 #151

No. Lancero Aug 2015 #152

try responding to what is in the op. it has nothing to do with right wing bullshit cali Aug 2015 #154

Seems to mention the fauxian scandal quite a lot... Lancero Aug 2015 #155

Hillary screwed up but hay rick Aug 2015 #153

The media's been blowing it out of proportion ever since it hit. Lancero Aug 2015 #156

What does your company think about you mixing their business and yours on that account? Fumesucker Aug 2015 #157

Depends - What do you think about the embrace of a RW fauxian scandal? Lancero Aug 2015 #158

Silly answer. 840high Aug 2015 #181

In otherwords, you think it's great that Democrats are falling for Republican hoaxes. Lancero Aug 2015 #184

I think it's great that 840high Aug 2015 #186

You running for president? 840high Aug 2015 #180

Nope, but apparently large portions of DU think deleting personal emails is tantamount to murder. Lancero Aug 2015 #185

The mess is of his own creation. It reflects badly on his judgment riversedge Aug 2015 #165

You really are a one trick pony, aren't you. philosslayer Aug 2015 #166

not even close. but if it makes you feel better cali Aug 2015 #187

SoS working from a private email account MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #182

If this is the craziest thing you've ever heard of, you've lived a very sheltered life. randome Aug 2015 #188

The email thing really doesn't bother me too much. What does bother me-- eridani Aug 2015 #189

She made a dumb mistake, at the very least. nt Zorra Aug 2015 #202

I suspect that many of her unforced errors stem from being gun shy because of the tblue37 Aug 2015 #203

It's obvious that what really bugs you about it is that there is no substance to it. DanTex Aug 2015 #204

huh? no. what troubles me is that it reveals that Clinton has no problem lying cali Aug 2015 #205