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2016 Postmortem

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Uncle Joe

(58,355 posts)
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 10:57 PM Aug 2015

Bernie vs. Hillary memes have conquered the Internet. Time for a fact-check [View all]





Iraq War Authorization:

Sanders- “As a caring Nation, we should do everything we can to prevent the horrible suffering that a war will cause. War must be the last recourse in international relations, not the first.”

Clinton- “ I come to this decision from the perspective of a Senator from New York who has seen all too closely the consequences of last year’s terrible attacks on our nation. In balancing the risks of action versus inaction, I think New Yorkers who have gone through the fires of hell may be more attuned to the risk of not acting. I know that I am.”

Correct



Wall Street Bailout (TARP):

Sanders- “ This bill does not effectively address the issue of oversight because the oversight board members have all been hand picked by the Bush administration. This bill does not effectively deal with the issue of foreclosures and addressing that very serious issue, which is impacting millions of low- and moderate-income Americans in the aggressive, effective way that we should be.”

Clinton- Voted in support of the $800 million tax-payer TARP bailout.

Correct



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http://usuncut.com/news/this-meme-reveals-the-stark-difference-between-bernie-and-hillary/

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Great Breakdown! jkbRN Aug 2015 #1
Wonderful synopsis. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #2
FACT CHECK: NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #3
That is the only fact check needed! leftofcool Aug 2015 #4
And that can never and is not changing? n/t Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #5
We are changing every day... MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #8
Some people just won't take an answer.... sgtbenobo Aug 2015 #59
Yeah, screw all those comparisons of policy! LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #6
For the moment. John Poet Aug 2015 #13
Shame on the people. 840high Aug 2015 #34
SQUIRREL! frylock Aug 2015 #57
! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #61
LOL Fawke Em Aug 2015 #65
So what? Fawke Em Aug 2015 #64
Uhm... kenfrequed Aug 2015 #76
The OP used the term "fact check". NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #79
Yeah... kenfrequed Aug 2015 #81
If you believe ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #84
1+ riversedge Aug 2015 #80
The Issues do NOT matter. bvar22 Aug 2015 #85
Yeah, because I said all of that. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #86
Yes. You did. Your Post #3. bvar22 Aug 2015 #87
Jesus Hussein Christ. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #88
He has at least two super pac and voted Kosovo tgat would be foreign u.s. Military intervention. seabeyond Aug 2015 #7
Kosovo was experiencing ethnic cleansing by the Serbs perhaps Bernie's family history Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #10
How dare you post actual facts! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #12
who compared? you and joe. i did not. the statement was. foreign u.s. military intervention. seabeyond Aug 2015 #18
Actually the facts posted were about the Iraq war, not military intervention in Kosovo. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #39
they have one for iraq. they have one that ONLY says, ... foreign u.s. military intervention. so. seabeyond Aug 2015 #43
It says "Iraq War authorization". beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #45
yes beam. i can read. the first is iraq. now. count down to the 6 th. tell me. what does that say? seabeyond Aug 2015 #46
That he opposes foreign intervention. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #52
ha. it was simple enough. foreign u.s. military intervention. opposes. except when he doesnt. seabeyond Aug 2015 #54
Not for you apparently. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #56
*sigh* kenfrequed Aug 2015 #77
that is hardly the point. it said no to intervening with u.s. military. right? seabeyond Aug 2015 #17
Considering the region Aerows Aug 2015 #19
again. the category IS! foreign u.s. military intervention. sanders OPPOSES seabeyond Aug 2015 #22
You are criticizing Bernie Sanders Aerows Aug 2015 #30
i am NOT criticizing the man. i am fine with the vote. OP says FACT CHECK. it is NOT fact. seabeyond Aug 2015 #33
Are there any other facts on the list that you dispute? Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #49
one is a billionaire pac. there is at least one other done by an employee or X employee. seabeyond Aug 2015 #53
Well there seems to be some dispute regarding the "billionaire pac" Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #60
Right: anyone can start a super PAC Recursion Aug 2015 #71
How did he vote on Gulf War 1? cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #20
i did not say he voted for gulf 1. i specifically said, once he won he did NOT vote gulf 1 seabeyond Aug 2015 #23
So just to clarify; he voted no? cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #25
also, he was a yes to gulf war 1 while running and no after he was elected. seabeyond Aug 2015 #26
You gotta know I'm only teasin'. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #28
what is the problem here with you people. getting god damn ugly when i merely contradict the false seabeyond Aug 2015 #31
What is false about the facts listed in the op? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #41
Come on now. I said I was only teasing. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #42
You need a sign off poem or something. GitRDun Aug 2015 #58
Hahahaha! Link to those super pacs and the money they have raised for Bernie. Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #14
google sanders super pac and read the many many articles that spell it out. seabeyond Aug 2015 #21
Nope. You made the claim. It is up to you to provide the evidence that Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #35
keep pretending and call everyone liars. this is beyond disgusting. seabeyond Aug 2015 #38
Didn't call you are liar sea… a person that I have admired a long time. Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #63
I'm stunned, too Aerows Aug 2015 #27
those are two false statements i know about. now... you come up with reasons for him to not oppose seabeyond Aug 2015 #29
He supported military intervention in Kosovo Aerows Aug 2015 #37
look at the OP. look at the catagories. there is one that says Foreign u.s. military intervention, seabeyond Aug 2015 #40
! Thanks for the laugh, too! Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #36
Allow me to introduce you to a wonderul website called "Google" Recursion Aug 2015 #69
Super pacs are barred by FCC rules, from registering a PAC with the candidates name. Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #72
None of those are the registered names Recursion Aug 2015 #73
Billionaires for Bernie is registered. As per FEC rules, either the man has to change the name and Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #75
*Citation n/t Aerows Aug 2015 #16
Here are some Sanders Super PACs Recursion Aug 2015 #70
It's Same Old Shit vs Where We Gotta Go. Ron Green Aug 2015 #9
Well that is a tidy summation Aerows Aug 2015 #32
Speaks for itself. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #11
Uncle Joe Aerows Aug 2015 #15
Aerows, all I want are some ducks that will do what I tell them, Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #24
Just don't forget one thing, Aerows. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #44
ya. cause this OP really wasnt about facts, was it. my bad. seabeyond Aug 2015 #47
Yes, facts, issues, nuance and stuff are pesky things, personalities are what matter in this world. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #48
it wasnt a big deal. what you put up was not totally correct. why the big deal? seabeyond Aug 2015 #50
I'm not making a big deal, I asked you a question upthread post # 49. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #51
done seabeyond Aug 2015 #55
I found your "billionaire pac" and answered it. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #62
+1 cui bono Aug 2015 #67
Kick and R BeanMusical Aug 2015 #66
What does the "Super PAC raised funds" line mean? Recursion Aug 2015 #68
Pretty decent accuracy for a meme kenfrequed Aug 2015 #74
Here's a fact too... Autumn Aug 2015 #78
Indeed kenfrequed Aug 2015 #83
Those facts mean absolutely nothing!!1! Zorra Aug 2015 #82
Thank you, Zorra. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #89
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