2016 Postmortem

raindaddy

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70. This is one of the few times gender isn't the issue...

Mon Aug 17, 2015, 09:53 AM

Aug 2015

Hillary Clinton exudes entitlement! From her, I'll let you know how I feel about the TPP when I'm President", to her political machine, trying to play the "scary Bernie the Socialist" card on national TV and limiting the number of debates because Hillary is weak on the issues..

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Hillary is not "entitled" or "anointed", she's the front runner and has earned that [View all] CreekDog Aug 2015 OP

Earned - How - Could It Be That The Party Has Annointed Her - The People Not So Much cantbeserious Aug 2015 #1

Yea she's only up by about 20-30 points ... no one wants her. JoePhilly Aug 2015 #3

Like Yogi Berra said about Yankee Stadium, "Nobody goes there..." CreekDog Aug 2015 #163

How does that relate to anything? nt Logical Aug 2015 #232

LOL, nice try, she lost a 30 point lead in 2008! Short term memory? Nt Logical Aug 2015 #231

She garnered more of the popular vote in 2008 than Obama frazzled Aug 2015 #268

I love the credit going to obama and no blame to hillary. Cracks me up! Nt Logical Aug 2015 #271

Her front runner status is shown in polls of Democrats CreekDog Aug 2015 #97

Proving the OP in the first reply... SidDithers Aug 2015 #147

It is decided by primary and caucus treestar Aug 2015 #148

Except they haven't. Agschmid Aug 2015 #153

So far Clinton hasn't earned my vote... Picking Dem Aug 2015 #2

No she's not appointed she will be voted as president FloridaBlues Aug 2015 #7

national polling means jack crap during the primaries frylock Aug 2015 #170

Sanders is only doing well in two states which each are 95% white Gothmog Aug 2015 #225

momentum is building.. frylock Aug 2015 #229

Whete? Do you have any polls showing this? Gothmog Aug 2015 #243

Yeah, here's your "poll" frylock Aug 2015 #264

Do you follow her on Facebook? Chico Man Aug 2015 #14

Well, some people just don't like intelligent women. asjr Aug 2015 #58

Lol, so anyone against Hillary is sexist? I knew that would be the whining! Nt Logical Aug 2015 #233

She seems to be doing quite well without you. n/t Lil Missy Aug 2015 #106

Like in 2008? LOL! nt Logical Aug 2015 #234

Did they repeal the 22nd Amendment? LOL! nt DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #249

So it was obama and not hillary? That is really a LOL, no one loses a 30 point.... Logical Aug 2015 #260

Comparing Bernie Sanders with Barack Obama is akin to comparing ... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #262

Nice try! Keep dreaming, make believe is fun! Nt Logical Aug 2015 #269

You made the comparison, not me! Nt DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #272

Hillary Clinton is the front runner because she has the best resume and experience for the job Gothmog Aug 2015 #4

Really - Voted For War - Supports Wall Street - Is For TPP - And On And On cantbeserious Aug 2015 #6

You want a President who doesn't support Wall Street? Recursion Aug 2015 #17

Uh, she's a Democrat that voted for war because of her presidential ambitions. Dawgs Aug 2015 #25

Notice my avatar Recursion Aug 2015 #27

What? Democrats have started nearly all the wars in US history. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #28

What does that have to do with my comment? n/t Dawgs Aug 2015 #30

You said voting for war is a disqualification for being a Democrat. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #34

Which wars did Democrats start? ramblin_dave Aug 2015 #42

Well, the Civil War obviously Recursion Aug 2015 #61

Vietnam. perhaps you remember that little dust up? nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #280

Yes, of course I remember it, but ramblin_dave Aug 2015 #282

If that is true don't you think it is time for the voters to change that? A Simple Game Aug 2015 #77

sanders supported bush 1 iraq to get elected then voted against. but voted for kosovo war seabeyond Aug 2015 #158

Sorry, my bad. Dawgs Aug 2015 #33

Sure, I support O'Malley. I would support Clinton or Sanders if nominated. Recursion Aug 2015 #63

What would happen to the economy if Wall Street was literally destroyed... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #71

That would mean all publicly-traded corporations would have a book value of literally zero (nt) Recursion Aug 2015 #81

For one thing, the complete loss of pension funds invested... Spazito Aug 2015 #99

And that is a great reason to not let Wall Street get its hands on Social Security. djean111 Aug 2015 #112

I completely agree, SS should NOT be privatized and used to invest in the market... Spazito Aug 2015 #121

I doubt the intent is to destroy Wall Street. Hoppy Aug 2015 #115

It's always going to be a binary choice for people with conservative mindsets.. frylock Aug 2015 #173

Define before you ask. Martin Eden Aug 2015 #172

I thought about it, and I answer "Not over the people". daybranch Aug 2015 #184

He was right- the best resume for the GOP nomination. canoeist52 Aug 2015 #8

No, she's pro choice, pro universal health care, pro environment CreekDog Aug 2015 #104

She's pro regulation of markets? Hoppy Aug 2015 #123

No I meant that for reals. canoeist52 Aug 2015 #139

You said she'd be a shoo-in to win theRepublican nomination??? CreekDog Aug 2015 #164

With a name other than Clinton, and if she were male... canoeist52 Aug 2015 #174

Do you really believe this? Gothmog Aug 2015 #155

There are liberals and conservatives in politics. canoeist52 Aug 2015 #159

You're saying there are just two groups CreekDog Aug 2015 #165

The RW hates her with a passion, always has. From Gingrich to Rove to now they've spread lies... Hekate Aug 2015 #162

No no no, canoelist says she's a shoo i n for the GOP nomination CreekDog Aug 2015 #166

This thread is giving me a headache Hekate Aug 2015 #177

Thank God many DU'ers view of reality is not reality CreekDog Aug 2015 #183

If he actually said that, you might have a point. nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #238

She may have all that. pangaia Aug 2015 #13

She's got the party machine... Bohemianwriter Aug 2015 #41

Nixon also had the best resume daybranch Aug 2015 #65

Obviously many here have not been paying attention. Hillary is great on the issues most people care kelliekat44 Aug 2015 #101

And compared to modern Repugs he was much better. Even considering watergate and that crap. stevenleser Aug 2015 #239

Let'ws be honest - HRC is the front runner because she is the wife of the very popular WJ Clinton. jonno99 Aug 2015 #78

" because she is the wife of the very popular WJ Clinton" sufrommich Aug 2015 #80

You got that right... jonno99 Aug 2015 #82

Maybe she's an appendage of her husband... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #248

No, she is simply a priviledged candidate. She's got a huge head-start because jonno99 Aug 2015 #275

I would argue her resume is anything but thin... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #277

Don't get me wrong - that is a fine resume. And Hillary could be a fine president, jonno99 Aug 2015 #278

The same advantage enjoyed by JFK, RFK, EMK, and FDR for starters DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #279

I just ran across another post using the same dismissive descriptor... Spazito Aug 2015 #105

It has the opposite affect than they think it will,just like their sufrommich Aug 2015 #109

I agree, it hurts their preferred candidate so much more .... Spazito Aug 2015 #114

"Bill Clinton's wife" has more years in service to the nation on the national stage than MADem Aug 2015 #124

I know, it is a juvenile attempt, not the first unfortunately, to denigrate her... Spazito Aug 2015 #126

"The little lady". barf Hekate Aug 2015 #180

Yep, no sexism there, nosirree... Spazito Aug 2015 #181

Investigate her work resume. Do you live in Patigonia? lumpy Aug 2015 #201

WTF does that even mean? nt sufrommich Aug 2015 #202

My post was meant to go to another poster. I am truly sorry. lumpy Aug 2015 #203

lol. I have done that before too. No problem.nt sufrommich Aug 2015 #204

They really can't help it, can they? Their kneejerk reactions throw women, POC, whoever else under stevenleser Aug 2015 #240

Running around with your hair on fire braying about the one percent... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #250

Not Surprising LeFleur1 Aug 2015 #87

No she would not have made it without Bill. Carolina Aug 2015 #283

Yep. askew Aug 2015 #132

so you feel that Bobby Kennedy carpetbagged his Senate seat in NY? CreekDog Aug 2015 #190

Who gives a fuck? Is he running for president claiming to be the most askew Aug 2015 #195

Because if she's the first person you are making this comment about CreekDog Aug 2015 #200

I wasn't even alive when Bobby Kennedy was so Hillary is the first person in askew Aug 2015 #223

Hillary Clinton has done a great deal on her own Gothmog Aug 2015 #156

That's appallingly sexist. HRC has spent her entire adult life working for the betterment ... Hekate Aug 2015 #179

I don't dispute anything that you wrote - except that it is not sexist - it is reality jonno99 Aug 2015 #185

As I said to suffromich above, they just can't help themselves. stevenleser Aug 2015 #241

My my. Hilary is well known nation wide because of her national jobs or lumpy Aug 2015 #197

She has painted herself into a corner - the election is hers to lose Jemmons Aug 2015 #98

She has been running a far different campaign than 2008 Gothmog Aug 2015 #154

The goodness of an attack lies in it ability to stop or slow down your adversary. Or at least boost Jemmons Aug 2015 #178

Is Rubio the go-to guy for political insight? frylock Aug 2015 #171

Well said. The coronation only existed in their heads. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #5

Is that really the story you want to stick with? Gore1FL Aug 2015 #12

"30 years of govt experience" SonderWoman Aug 2015 #24

Sanders has that: he was first elected in the 1980s. n/t Gore1FL Aug 2015 #95

She has a nearly forty five year public career. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #75

Sorry--but this is not exactly "kosher" artislife Aug 2015 #86

I hate to do this but in Hillary's defense she was considered the A Simple Game Aug 2015 #90

No artislife Aug 2015 #136

No, it doesn't count. Lordy, she doesn't get credit for that. askew Aug 2015 #137

Ironically she might be the first candidate in history who is overqualified for the job. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #103

I don't think being married to someone with a career counts Gore1FL Aug 2015 #94

"I don't think being married to someone with a career counts." DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #111

It's almost unbelievable and ugly as hell. nt sufrommich Aug 2015 #122

The older I get the more I realize how some progressives really aren't all that progressive... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #125

There's a reason the term "brogressive" exists. nt sufrommich Aug 2015 #128

I had not heard that term before, but it sure fits.... Hekate Aug 2015 #187

Jesus CreekDog Aug 2015 #167

He didn't exist, but if he did, Hillary would have a better resume' than him. n/t Gore1FL Aug 2015 #210

How dare the little lady have a law degree and a burgeoning career while being a governor's wife? Hekate Aug 2015 #182

Having a law degree is a resume item, to be sure. Gore1FL Aug 2015 #188

She's got 45 years experience. If you choose to turn a blind eye, that's a personal problem. Hekate Aug 2015 #189

What did she do from 1992-2000? n/t Gore1FL Aug 2015 #206

She was just a little lady in white gloves having teas for other little ladies Hekate Aug 2015 #211

I never claimed she had the best resume of the crowd. Gore1FL Aug 2015 #214

What did she do from 1992-2000? n/t DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #252

Thank you. That's the first actual answer anyone has posted. n/t Gore1FL Aug 2015 #285

Her record in politics is far more than being married to Bill Clinton CreekDog Aug 2015 #191

Yeah. She was SOS and Senator. Gore1FL Aug 2015 #207

This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Aug 2015 #217

I attempted to say she had 10-12 years of experience. Gore1FL Aug 2015 #219

Neil deGrasse Tyson's wife is accomplished in her own right, as is Hillary CreekDog Aug 2015 #192

She is. But she doesn't have his experience by osmosis. Gore1FL Aug 2015 #208

no wonder you're posting this nonsense: CreekDog Aug 2015 #216

Ad Hominem. Awesome. Gore1FL Aug 2015 #218

nah, totally relevant. you have played games on gender topics before CreekDog Aug 2015 #220

This has nothing to do with gender. You cannot support the claim her resume is superior. Gore1FL Aug 2015 #221

Quoting you back to yourself is not what an ad hominem attack is. Sheesh. Also, no evidence ... Hekate Aug 2015 #242

Taking an out-of-context post from years ago instead of supporting an argument Gore1FL Aug 2015 #245

Can someone please tell me what this even means ? DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #256

It means that some are invested in pretending that sufrommich Aug 2015 #267

Kind of odd... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #270

Yes,but that would defeat the purpose sufrommich Aug 2015 #273

Never try to convince somebody DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #274

Or in O'Malley's case, 15 years of executive experience askew Aug 2015 #133

Has anyone in Congress endorsed Sanders yet? Gothmog Aug 2015 #157

I suspect Sanders will be voting for himself. Gore1FL Aug 2015 #209

His fellow senators and the members of congress who have worked with him will have an opinion Gothmog Aug 2015 #224

They won't or haven't? Gore1FL Aug 2015 #228

Look at the contrast to Hillary Clinton Gothmog Aug 2015 #244

And still has a short resume, which was the point I was challenging. Gore1FL Aug 2015 #246

Your title is illogical. longship Aug 2015 #9

Being the frontrunner isn't its own form of qualification for the Presidency. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #10

well what it does mean is that she has greater support among the party members CreekDog Aug 2015 #193

The whole "her royal highness","queen Hillary"meme is sexist. sufrommich Aug 2015 #11

I can't think of a presidential nominee who was more hated and reviled pipoman Aug 2015 #18

She polls much higher than anyone within her party. sufrommich Aug 2015 #19

Polls... pipoman Aug 2015 #40

What? She has HUGE approval from her own party. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #22

She also is more hated within the party than any candidate I can ever remember... pipoman Aug 2015 #43

DU is not the real world. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #46

Not all DU posters are Democrats (eom) oasis Aug 2015 #50

"..Right here on DU.." give us a break. Du isn't the real world. They hate Pres Obama, too.. Cha Aug 2015 #55

The DU hates President Obama meme is getting old davidpdx Aug 2015 #91

Thank you. +1 840high Aug 2015 #226

Polls say otherwise. Hillary is very popular with actual Democrats. DU is not the real world, Metric System Aug 2015 #56

Maybe you should let these people know, they are saying something different. A Simple Game Aug 2015 #100

That poll shows a 70% approval among Democrats. Metric System Aug 2015 #143

She isn't. I wonder why you continue to confuse your thoughts... CreekDog Aug 2015 #194

Only in your mind...please dont send any more nastiest pm's either stalking isn't becoming... pipoman Aug 2015 #196

The suspision against her is that she has corporate donors... Bohemianwriter Aug 2015 #45

So ...... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #79

Hear hear Nance lumpy Aug 2015 #205

So what are your indications then? Bohemianwriter Aug 2015 #286

You forgot the BIGGIE ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #288

Did Hillary start it by throwing poison in the well Bohemianwriter Aug 2015 #290

Never heard it before? It's used all the time with the Republican candidates. A Simple Game Aug 2015 #88

It was never her being a woman. It was her policies that sucked. Picking Dem Aug 2015 #116

Every election cycle starts with the most obvious candidates pipoman Aug 2015 #15

Anointed, chosen one..... quickesst Aug 2015 #16

Sorry, but it's her supporters that have been telling everyone that the race is over. Dawgs Aug 2015 #26

Bullshit quickesst Aug 2015 #47

Got it. Her supporters suggesting that she should skip the primary is perfectly fine to you. n/t Dawgs Aug 2015 #54

I don't think... quickesst Aug 2015 #102

Since before she was even running Bettie Aug 2015 #20

Yep davidpdx Aug 2015 #93

Yeah, it isn't about maligning her Bettie Aug 2015 #108

...^ that 840high Aug 2015 #227

Starting maybe two years ago SheilaT Aug 2015 #21

Any links to those claims? SonderWoman Aug 2015 #23

You're obviously new here, so you haven't seen it yet. Dawgs Aug 2015 #29

Yeah okay. Find me one. Just one. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #31

"Mrs. Clinton can virtually have the Democratic presidential nomination in 2016" progressoid Aug 2015 #64

An article from 2013 is your proof? SonderWoman Aug 2015 #129

Yep. You said, "Find me one. Just one." progressoid Aug 2015 #150

What a crock. The fact that Hillary is hugely popular within sufrommich Aug 2015 #38

People seem to forget what the beginning of the year was like artislife Aug 2015 #92

Yep. The general meme out there absolutely SheilaT Aug 2015 #212

We do tend to run like 5th graders artislife Aug 2015 #215

No she hasn' t "earned" that much mylye2222 Aug 2015 #32

Sexist nonsense. I'm not surprised to see it here. nt sufrommich Aug 2015 #39

I'm not surprised, either.. they are desperate. It shows all over the board. Cha Aug 2015 #53

I expzcted that... mylye2222 Aug 2015 #59

Referring to her as "flotus" as if that was her accomplishment sufrommich Aug 2015 #60

Didnt she began to be popular and estimeed mylye2222 Aug 2015 #66

So? Why does that matter now? Since then sufrommich Aug 2015 #68

All since 2000 artislife Aug 2015 #96

And Ted Kennedy wouldn't have had the name recognition sufrommich Aug 2015 #119

I agree with all the examples except Al artislife Aug 2015 #176

LOL, sexist your only excuse? Many people who hate Hillary love warren! Explain that! Nt Logical Aug 2015 #236

Yeah, and maybe Bill wouldn't have been President if Hillary wasn't his wife. Metric System Aug 2015 #144

they were pushing her to run in the 1980's actually CreekDog Aug 2015 #198

says the poster who came to DU to call them "Billary" CreekDog Aug 2015 #199

One word: tk2kewl Aug 2015 #35

She earned it allright... Bohemianwriter Aug 2015 #36

Here: SonderWoman Aug 2015 #48

Proves a point, doesn't it? Bohemianwriter Aug 2015 #287

Media ordained frontrunner supported by polls of uninterested voters. fbc Aug 2015 #37

Over on the conservative side, they use that same phrase towards Jeb! The Green Manalishi Aug 2015 #44

On 'Today' this morning, the talking heads glibly spoke of how PatrickforO Aug 2015 #49

Her favorables/trustworthy #s are baked in at this point. askew Aug 2015 #140

Hillary is our best chance to keep the White House OhWiseOne Aug 2015 #51

Great example of winning the battle but losing the war. RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #62

Just like those lovely persons JackInGreen Aug 2015 #52

If by "earned" you mean she started her campaign the day after the 2008 election tularetom Aug 2015 #57

Nailed it. mylye2222 Aug 2015 #67

It is name recognition. Hillary's got Joe-mentum RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #69

I mean earned it by having the support of as many Democrats as she does CreekDog Aug 2015 #107

I'm guessing a lot of "those Democrats" don't even know who else is running tularetom Aug 2015 #131

You're "guessing"? Let's clarify that it's not an educated guess CreekDog Aug 2015 #142

You have an amazing capacity to read things into a post tularetom Aug 2015 #145

This is one of the few times gender isn't the issue... raindaddy Aug 2015 #70

But that won't stop people from suggesting that it is. RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #76

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.. And sometimes it's simply about personality and the ISSUES! raindaddy Aug 2015 #89

Please tell us how she has earned INdemo Aug 2015 #72

Please tell us how you can read when i clearly didn't say she earned the nomination CreekDog Aug 2015 #113

Ok guess I did say that but what I meant was INdemo Aug 2015 #186

The really funny part (in a sad way) is that she would have been better off if DJ13 Aug 2015 #235

She may have earned it through longevity, but she has not earned my vote Feeling the Bern Aug 2015 #73

George Sr.-4+ years (Reagan was senile), B. Clinton-8 years, George Jr.-8 years, jalan48 Aug 2015 #74

Of course it is!!!! mylye2222 Aug 2015 #83

This is not a gender issue. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #84

Certainly not a gender issue. PADemD Aug 2015 #127

Same. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #146

I will vote for the Dem nominee, but DownriverDem Aug 2015 #85

How has she earned it? What if her last name was Rodham? Avalux Aug 2015 #110

What if Eleanor Roosevelt hada different surname? CreekDog Aug 2015 #118

I didn't say that. Clinton's name is a factor in her popularity - do you not agree? n/t Avalux Aug 2015 #120

It's not about Hillary, the woman. I think it's pushback against azmom Aug 2015 #117

First off all, it isn't about sexism it is about policy stances that are out of touch with most davidpdx Aug 2015 #130

I think it's going to boil down to One Issue...are we going to continue the libdem4life Aug 2015 #134

as I have said DonCoquixote Aug 2015 #135

I thought nobody every had this level of support before? Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #138

Hillary has the most corporate and Party insider support. She leads no grass roots movement. nt Romulox Aug 2015 #141

It's as silly a term as was "messiah" in regards to Obama. LanternWaste Aug 2015 #149

Not entitled and anointed AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #151

Well said and totally agree. DCBob Aug 2015 #152

Bernie will destroy her in the debates, expose her. Nt Logical Aug 2015 #160

Not likely. He may very well out-debate her, though. randome Aug 2015 #161

As likely as Andre Berto will destroy Floyd Mayweather in their boxing match, expose him./Nt DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #253

Bernie is more liberal than hillary wants to be. But keep making up stuff. You.... Logical Aug 2015 #261

That has nothing to do with what I said. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #263

Actually, Hillary has been "annointed" to the extent she receives preferential treatment ... Martin Eden Aug 2015 #168

Inevitable, front runner, best there is, most qualified... Carolina Aug 2015 #169

+100 840high Aug 2015 #230

+1000 nt Logical Aug 2015 #237

excellent post!nt m-lekktor Aug 2015 #251

The whole Sanders/Trump false equivalency media punditry, both being "atypical politicians" Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #175

If she keeps the lead through the primary, she'll earn it. last1standing Aug 2015 #213

How? colsohlibgal Aug 2015 #222

"By just being the wife of an ex president?" DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #247

We're now counting Hillary's post-grad work as an "accomplishment"? You also forgot Walmart. Thin gruel indeed! Romulox Aug 2015 #255

"We're now counting Hillary's post-grad work as an "accomplishment"? DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #257

I heard she also earned *several* badges on her sash as a girl scout!1!!!!! nt Romulox Aug 2015 #258

You're better than this... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #259

No. I'm not. nt Romulox Aug 2015 #265

Even bringing up Hillary's record is itself sexist. It's HER TURN! nt Romulox Aug 2015 #254

...A-a-and stop calling them "LEGOS..." They are "Lego Building Blocks!" dogknob Aug 2015 #266

Actually, Kerry and Gore were also described as "entitled" and "anointed" Ken Burch Aug 2015 #276

K N' R like Axl and Slash ericson00 Aug 2015 #281

K & R SunSeeker Aug 2015 #284

I wonder who really runs faster, Hillary or Bernie? Puzzledtraveller Aug 2015 #289