2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: So I called Bernie's campaign last night [View all]Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Hillary was not in the Senate anywhere near as long as Bernie and as you can see from the video, she started compromising her values almost from the start.
I think this is also why she gave the impassioned 19 minute speech in favor of the use of military force in Iraq. She was smart enough to know it was a the wrong thing to do, but backing a war was always good for a politician. It made him/her look strong and patriotic. Unfortunately for her, and the rest of the world, it was such a debacle that it hurt her politically. What were the odds?
Bernie voted against that war even though it was not popular to do so. He was in favor of marriage equality early on, even though it was not popular to do so. Hillary had to wait until the polls showed a clear majority was in favor before she "evolved" on the subject. Even if we take her at her word, and not assume she was just playing politics with people's civil rights for her own gain, then we need to put her in the bottom 50 percentile of all Americans when it comes to supporting civil rights.
Will Bernie, as President and even as Senator, sometimes take a partial victory when he can't get a total one? Hell yes! Will he do something horribly wrong for political gain? There is no evidence to suggest that he ever would. That is a real difference between the two.
P.S. No response from you about claiming to be the one being attacked while you are the one saying I talk like a right winger. Please respond to that. From my point of view you are just throwing around insults and then claiming to be the one being attacked.