2016 Postmortem

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When you give a 19 minute floor speech about going to war, it can not be called a mistake. [View all] madfloridian Jul 2015 OP

Let me know when to grab a fork.... TheNutcracker Jul 2015 #1

She's done madokie Jul 2015 #54

Nor should she be the President Caretha Jul 2015 #134

and my opinion, you would lose rtracey Jul 2015 #191

I'm a true blue 100% Democratic Party member madokie Jul 2015 #194

I am glad to hear that rtracey Jul 2015 #200

Let me ask you madokie Jul 2015 #202

.... Lochloosa Jul 2015 #250

her support for trade deals, outsourcing and h-1b visas, also a mistake HFRN Jul 2015 #2

+1 nt Live and Learn Jul 2015 #169

Not a good day for Hillary, that's for sure. Avalux Jul 2015 #3

hard in the sense that like Eric Holder she didn't want to take an action that would roguevalley Jul 2015 #18

And yet I found it effortless to oppose it n/t arcane1 Jul 2015 #50

Be fair, now. malthaussen Jul 2015 #205

Hard my ass. She had to make a hard decision? She had it easy comparied to the hundreds of rhett o rick Jul 2015 #154

+1 BeanMusical Jul 2015 #161

Reminds me of a great line from the movie Animal House 90-percent Jul 2015 #175

Right on. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #215

The ending paragraph accurately describes the dynamic at that moment jberryhill Jul 2015 #4

"This is probably the hardest decision I've ever had to make" - HRC. Avalux Jul 2015 #9

Millions of us knew it was wrong. Hillary was either complicit or really, really gullible. Scuba Jul 2015 #55

complicit and ambitious. Voice for Peace Jul 2015 #68

She was already planning a presidential run & had to get macho cred. Divernan Jul 2015 #139

Ding ding ding ding! We have a winner, folks. Damansarajaya Jul 2015 #246

Exactly. She's either too nefarious to be president or too stupid to be president shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #77

^^^ this! peacebird Jul 2015 #101

Agreed MissDeeds Jul 2015 #187

Is there such a thing as "too nefarious to be President?" malthaussen Jul 2015 #206

^^^ hay rick Jul 2015 #79

Hillary was totally complicit. Hillary is not "gullible". delrem Jul 2015 #105

May I translate the Beltway-speak? BlueStreak Jul 2015 #158

Excellent analysis! "Hard decision" is code for hedgehog Jul 2015 #195

Maybe. But her total history indicates a simpler reason: she likes war. nt delrem Jul 2015 #280

spot on! which is why I will NEVER vote for Hilary-I will write in Bernie! if need be eom fed-up Jul 2015 #289

We have to go with our consciences. In Hillary's defense BlueStreak Jul 2015 #317

And this is probably the EASIEST decision I've ever had to make...I'm voting for Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #302

He would have gone in with/without IWR or the Biden-Lugar version of IWR. blm Jul 2015 #15

"he did not use the power wisely nor as a last resort. That, however, is on him!" bvar22 Jul 2015 #23

No shit! rbnyc Jul 2015 #224

The "it's on him" argument sulphurdunn Jul 2015 #256

She signed on for the same reason George W. Bush signed on. delrem Jul 2015 #282

Iraq. Nothing to do with 9/11. Iraq. Not a threat to the US. Autumn Jul 2015 #38

I don't believe this is accurate. Saddam Hussein WAS allowing inspections, colorado_ufo Jul 2015 #40

Your recollection is correct. erronis Jul 2015 #45

Exactly right. The inspections were working and had found nothing, Stevepol Jul 2015 #81

I wonder what would have happened if the Supreme Court hadn't been in session during Stardust Jul 2015 #157

Now for the real history Geronimoe Jul 2015 #53

there it is! rateyes Jul 2015 #320

If I remember right madokie Jul 2015 #56

But what about the aluminum tubes? Yellow cakes... peace13 Jul 2015 #264

But Saddam did allow inspections, jberry, from Nov. 27, 2002 to March 18, 2003. Mnemosyne Jul 2015 #63

nope heaven05 Jul 2015 #66

HANS BLIX SAID DON'T GO TO WAR Voice for Peace Jul 2015 #67

Yup, when she listen to Bush over Blix, we learned everything we needed to know about her. Exultant Democracy Jul 2015 #231

baloney. elehhhhna Jul 2015 #78

inaccurate history Rilgin Jul 2015 #83

What was the date of the IWR vote, what was the date that JoePhilly Jul 2015 #208

Did she ever hear of a guy named Hans Blix? Hoppy Jul 2015 #84

PNAC wanted war in 1997. This was what they wanted. valerief Jul 2015 #93

+1 nt rbnyc Jul 2015 #276

Everyone with two functioning brain cells knew that the Bush admin was gearing up for war. delrem Jul 2015 #103

Saddam was not allowing inspections? Really? magical thyme Jul 2015 #106

What was the date of the Iraq war vote? JoePhilly Jul 2015 #185

"Yes, it was a mistake to put that responsibility into Bush's hands.." 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #107

Bush Knew Saddamn did not have WMDs Caretha Jul 2015 #138

That's pure Bullshit!! pocoloco Jul 2015 #144

Anyone who didn't know Bushco would abuse that authority was uninformed and/or stupid Martin Eden Jul 2015 #147

Horseshit. LeftOfWest Jul 2015 #160

Anyone who had read Cheney's speeches from the previous summer or HereSince1628 Jul 2015 #176

Have you noticed that many responding to you don't know JoePhilly Jul 2015 #210

Very Misleading Rilgin Jul 2015 #301

Saddam was blustering, stopping inspections, JoePhilly Jul 2015 #308

A Photo is not history Rilgin Jul 2015 #311

That flies in the face of reality. blackspade Jul 2015 #216

Because the nation was insane at the time we needed her to lead not follow MoveIt Jul 2015 #219

Hans Blix, inspected Iraq a number of times before Clinton voted for war, he said don't go to war Exultant Democracy Jul 2015 #223

Could any Democrat believe what you wrote? Damansarajaya Jul 2015 #245

I don't think that's true... tonedevil Jul 2015 #258

"Saddam was not allowing inspections"? LiberalLovinLug Jul 2015 #274

Bullshit. Hissyspit Jul 2015 #297

Turned my stomach then.... daleanime Jul 2015 #5

no more wars CTBlueboy Jul 2015 #6

I disagree with one of your premises. delrem Jul 2015 #283

Kick for the refresher... FloriTexan Jul 2015 #7

.... madfloridian Jul 2015 #12

And the junior senator from New York said: yallerdawg Jul 2015 #8

Umm, the attack on our nation had nothing to do with Iraq or Saddam Hussein. Avalux Jul 2015 #11

Did you read that in a history book? yallerdawg Jul 2015 #14

Yes I watched all the speeches, they made me angry and disgusted. Avalux Jul 2015 #16

The best, most impassioned speech against it was by Sen Robert Byrd D-W.Va. Fuddnik Jul 2015 #177

yes we did. he kept al qaida out of iraq and millions of people are dead because of what you outline roguevalley Jul 2015 #20

I saw the speeches. I wasn't foolish enough to think we were safe *before* the attacks, winter is coming Jul 2015 #21

+1: She was/is a smart person with incredible connections. Of course she knew that this was a lie. erronis Jul 2015 #47

$$$war-profiteering$$$ delrem Jul 2015 #284

You know most Democrats in Congress voted against the Iraq War Resolution, right? PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #29

Most Democratic Senators voted for it. yallerdawg Jul 2015 #58

I don't. I'd never vote for Bush or Chaney. I blame them primarily PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #62

The vote. yallerdawg Jul 2015 #65

So? The people who voted for it are still responsible for it passing - all of them. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #69

So this substantial majority... yallerdawg Jul 2015 #73

Bandwagon fallacy RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #87

"Isn't this an indictment of our entire American society?" PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #89

Yes, absolutely! yallerdawg Jul 2015 #114

And there it is! 99Forever Jul 2015 #120

Actually navarth Jul 2015 #207

??????? heaven05 Jul 2015 #226

So... kenfrequed Jul 2015 #132

I believe this is a bunch of fear mongering bullshit. frylock Jul 2015 #44

Democrats Share the Blame for Tragedy of Iraq War--Ignored the Evidence Against Invasion KoKo Jul 2015 #323

Oddly enough, very little of this was Hillary Clinton's "fault" tularetom Jul 2015 #94

Iraq, Lybia, and Syria, are all very much Hillary Clinton's fault. delrem Jul 2015 #146

I laughed, I cried ... GeorgeGist Jul 2015 #123

This one broke my heart. nt Duval Jul 2015 #277

Can you imagine if he would have Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #279

Yes. I was an adult in 2001, and I answer in the affirmative for most of your questions. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #124

Colin Powell was a lying fuck? yallerdawg Jul 2015 #133

Give it up mate... you're apologia is beyond pathetic... truebrit71 Jul 2015 #140

Yeah, Colin Powell is a lying fuck.. frylock Jul 2015 #238

Do you not remember his UN speech? Total bullshit. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #275

I hve always been a skeptic but am now a true believer. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #182

There is so much wrong with what you are saying that it's unbelievable you're saying it. marym625 Jul 2015 #190

Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. hedgehog Jul 2015 #198

Look at the old archived DU, the answer is we knew all of this in real time. Exultant Democracy Jul 2015 #225

"wait until 2015 when the kids whose parents we blast away in our ground war grow up" madfloridian Jul 2015 #243

her vote enabled them. she has no excuse roguevalley Jul 2015 #19

The AUMF was precisely that -- AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #22

"authorization to use military force" with a large number of criteria to be met before... George II Jul 2015 #257

You have no problem with her vote? Hissyspit Jul 2015 #296

And that statement was made one month AFTER Hussein agreed to UN demands rateyes Jul 2015 #324

youtube of Hillary supporting increase of H-1b visas HFRN Jul 2015 #10

Sort of off topic here... Agschmid Jul 2015 #17

Yup OKNancy Jul 2015 #25

"use these powers wisely" aspirant Jul 2015 #13

A HUGE mistake, bvar22 Jul 2015 #26

"Trusting dumbbell Bush and Blood-thirsty Cheney, what a huge mistake." Enthusiast Jul 2015 #27

"use these powers wisely"....so Bush can invade a country that had nothing neverforget Jul 2015 #109

Isn't hindsight wonderful?? Gman Jul 2015 #24

Millions of us knew better. We knew better then. We felt it was a terrible decision at the time. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #28

we knew better Skittles Jul 2015 #141

The MAJORITY of us here successfully identified the LIES, bvar22 Jul 2015 #32

Exactly! ctsnowman Jul 2015 #186

Hindsight? 99Forever Jul 2015 #33

Everyone else who voted against the resolution had foresight. GoneOffShore Jul 2015 #34

I'm guessing you were duped as well.. frylock Jul 2015 #46

Many of us took to the streets numerous times between October 2002 and March 2003 RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #48

'hindsight'? Most Democrats in Congress had the foresight to vote against the resolution. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #70

Including this Senator: Art_from_Ark Jul 2015 #110

Sen.Byrd is one of my all time Senate heroes. I forgave the "mistake" oasis Jul 2015 #183

how will you diminish the foresight of those who stood up and voted no? mike_c Jul 2015 #102

We saw it then. Weren't you here at the time? nt DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #126

Add my voice to the chorus stopwastingmymoney Jul 2015 #162

One Million slaughtered human beings, such hindsight. LeftOfWest Jul 2015 #167

It's not Monday-morning quarterbacking... malthaussen Jul 2015 #211

My whole family marched against the war-we paid attention, we knew, no hindsight needed.eom fed-up Jul 2015 #290

I'm sure the men and women in the military that had their legs and arms blown off davidpdx Jul 2015 #304

When claiming to dodge sniper fire is just misspeaking Motown_Johnny Jul 2015 #30

^This^ GoneOffShore Jul 2015 #35

She's "too big to fail." immoderate Jul 2015 #131

Except her campaign imploded in 2008 davidpdx Jul 2015 #305

Well, Brian Williams "misspoke". delrem Jul 2015 #285

For some politicians that is... Motown_Johnny Jul 2015 #303

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #31

Thanks for refreshing some forgetful minds. 99Forever Jul 2015 #36

Everyone - please note below! George II Jul 2015 #37

Yes. How could we possibly know that the gun we gave Dubya in Act I would be fired in Act III?? RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #41

Props for Chekov allusion. n/t malthaussen Jul 2015 #213

Anyone who believed Bush wasn't going to use that legislation to go to war Autumn Jul 2015 #43

Hillary was hoodwinked by Dubya's cunning wiles, faced with a smooth talker like that who wouldn't? Fumesucker Jul 2015 #104

Perhaps she had a beer with him? I was told he was that kind of guy. n/t RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #111

He was quite the smooth talker neverforget Jul 2015 #112

There are some real gems in there. Unbelievable. Eom Stardust Jul 2015 #166

Yet he was elected TWICE. Think of that. delrem Jul 2015 #286

NOT elected twice! black box voting-Supreme Court decision-please do NOT state he was "elected" eom fed-up Jul 2015 #291

He was elected twice. delrem Jul 2015 #295

Sometimes it's best to remain silent and seem foolish ... GeorgeGist Jul 2015 #192

Yeah, but she was handing that power to Dubya who used it to avenge his daddy corkhead Jul 2015 #218

The person that gives their car keys to the town drunk and thinks they are blamelesss Exultant Democracy Jul 2015 #227

Yeah, figured this from you. Hissyspit Jul 2015 #298

Wait! Maybe she was sleep deprived? RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #39

Oh come ON. When are you going to let it go??? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #42

Jeez! Can't we just say "Whoops! Sorry about the dead people!" and move on?? n/t RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #51

Not until we at least pay off the trillion $ + debt from the war. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #118

You're serious, aren't you? crim son Jul 2015 #57

Did you see the picture? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #61

Amen to that! marym625 Jul 2015 #49

I have never understood SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #52

Bob Graham warned his colleagues. seafan Jul 2015 #59

Seafan, I remember that post. "Did you read it" Bob Graham read it all. madfloridian Jul 2015 #64

"Clinton replied that she had been briefed, though she did not say by whom." nt antigop Jul 2015 #197

Bernie gets to stand by his decision, Hillary has to stand in it, populace living . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #60

THE most disappointing time jomin41 Jul 2015 #71

She horrifies me. zentrum Jul 2015 #72

NT ibewlu606 Jul 2015 #74

well there's always Hondu--never mind--Pakist--nuuupe--Liby--crap! Syria? MisterP Jul 2015 #75

The total lack of humanity donf Jul 2015 #247

partisan politics maximizes "passion" while minimizing promises or anything else real MisterP Jul 2015 #252

You donated to, and voted for, John Kerry in 2004, right? Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #76

Biden also voted for the IWR, along with other prominent Democrats. n/t pnwmom Jul 2015 #85

Yes, I did. And yes, I most likely will do it again...BUT madfloridian Jul 2015 #86

I've evolved. frylock Jul 2015 #239

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #80

Of course it can. The length of the speech is completely irrelevant. She formulated her opinion pnwmom Jul 2015 #82

If you truly believe she simply made a mistake (I don't), she has appalling judgment n/t RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #90

Her judgement was shared by John Kerry and Joe Biden. n/t pnwmom Jul 2015 #96

And that makes it right? Ever heard of the Bandwagon Fallacy? RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #100

Intelligent people can be deceived. Ted Kennedy said he understood why they voted that way, pnwmom Jul 2015 #119

"Up till then Powell had a reputation as a trustworthy person." RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #121

Regardless of My Lai pnwmom Jul 2015 #122

There you go again. His popularity makes him trustworthy, eh? n/t RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #125

No, he was popular because people thought him trustworthy, and he was an Independent pnwmom Jul 2015 #128

How do you know he was popular? RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #129

Colin Powell was popular and trusted. yallerdawg Jul 2015 #136

You misremember. Powell was a lackey and a useful tool, some remember the infamous U.N. speech. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #142

I misremember? yallerdawg Jul 2015 #145

...don't forget the cartoon drawings that "proved" Saddam... bvar22 Jul 2015 #260

Or kneecapping Clinton about DADT sarge43 Jul 2015 #179

So that's your analysis? delrem Jul 2015 #287

What are you talking about? I'm not a mod for the HRC group. pnwmom Jul 2015 #292

Ah, OK. My mistake. delrem Jul 2015 #293

More Negative attacks on HRC,,,,,, Cryptoad Jul 2015 #88

I look at it as posting her own words. madfloridian Jul 2015 #91

Bernie has asked yall to stop Cryptoad Jul 2015 #95

where has Bernie asked that DUers stop discussing issues we consider important? magical thyme Jul 2015 #108

Ive posted the links Cryptoad Jul 2015 #113

don't know where you posted the links, but my google results didn't yield much magical thyme Jul 2015 #115

Post 'em again or you have nothing. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #127

Wait! I missed that. When did Bernie tell us we couldn't discuss the Iraq war and the votes Autumn Jul 2015 #116

Never. BeanMusical Jul 2015 #165

Actually, Bernie does know about DU. bvar22 Jul 2015 #312

Thank you for the information. BeanMusical Jul 2015 #313

You have to love the Puglover Jul 2015 #241

One of these things is a lot like the other. Exultant Democracy Jul 2015 #259

Purposely conflating and confusing an authorization for Presidential war powers as consent to a war is also Red State stuff. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #97

Us old guys should let our fellow Democrats sort it out in the primaries. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #99

Bam! yallerdawg Jul 2015 #137

No one could have foreseen this? latebloomer Jul 2015 #150

How is authorizing war powers not a consent for war?????? marble falls Jul 2015 #181

Anyone who knew about the PNAC knew EXACTLY what was going to happen. bunnies Jul 2015 #196

Oh, you're using the old Condoleeza Rice canard, "No one could have foreseen…" tularetom Jul 2015 #229

Not knowing history, combined with ulterior motives, twists everything. Twisted DU lately. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #232

Dude, I knew on 9/12 that Bush was going to start a war somewhere as a result of 9/11 tularetom Jul 2015 #234

Seeing so much into the future with 100% accuracy - it is too bad you were not elected President! Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #235

Hillary was hoodwinked by Dubya's cunning wiles, faced with a smooth talker like that who wouldn't? Fumesucker Jul 2015 #269

Sanders and Byrd did. TM99 Jul 2015 #230

"The Authorization to Use Military Force in Iraq" bvar22 Jul 2015 #255

No amnesia Freddy davidpdx Jul 2015 #306

Your crystal ball circa 2002 has amazing clarity...looks like lots of folks on the thread made a fortune in the stock market! Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #309

Do you think Hillary Clinton had a crystal ball when she voted for the IWR? davidpdx Jul 2015 #310

Unlike some candidates, apparently Hillary isn't proud her Senate record. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #98

Usually it's Republicans who view their prior words as "negative attacks." Jester Messiah Jul 2015 #184

I like your Bernie avatar! delrem Jul 2015 #288

That is why we have primaries DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #92

Thanks madfloridian! MuseRider Jul 2015 #117

The Hill: Few senators ever read the NIE report. madfloridian Jul 2015 #130

Not only did they not read it but they didn't pay any attention to people who knew better... blackspade Jul 2015 #237

Kick Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #135

Bingo! Either alternative is a deal-breaker. RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #143

When the best argument is "but my candidate was too stupid to know what W was about!" delrem Jul 2015 #148

Exactly! donf Jul 2015 #244

I think TheFarseer Jul 2015 #149

Being a paranoid person that I was in 2010, here is how I viewed the IWR vote. Old and In the Way Jul 2015 #153

I remember that speech well, I believe it was after Sen Byrd's incredible historic speech. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #151

I just found a treasure by an old friend DU Sept 19, 2001. Brought tears. No longer with us. madfloridian Jul 2015 #152

+1 a huge bunch! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #171

Kick! SoapBox Jul 2015 #155

A whole lot of people supported that decision. davidthegnome Jul 2015 #156

What arms? Please don't tell me you believed that cock and bull story about WMDs, Sec Stardust Jul 2015 #159

We came, we saw... BeanMusical Jul 2015 #163

... sheshe2 Jul 2015 #164

Mixed feelings on this rpannier Jul 2015 #168

i believe Kerry ALSO voted yay, & he was nominated. pansypoo53219 Jul 2015 #170

And ran a godawful fall campaign that stood for nothing, and lost by three million votes. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #172

You put my reaction into words - I voted for Kerry but wasn't hedgehog Jul 2015 #201

I will never forget John Kerry, bvar22 Jul 2015 #315

This thread is remarkable. WilliamPitt Jul 2015 #173

Its torture but I guess Ichingcarpenter Jul 2015 #178

Yes, it's puke inducing. BeanMusical Jul 2015 #188

+ 1,000,000,000 What You Said !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #189

+1 You nailed it. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #193

+1000 No kidding. Damansarajaya Jul 2015 #249

could be long time trolls! eom nothing else makes sense! fed-up Jul 2015 #299

^^^What Will Said^^^. There's no place, and no way, to hide from this, and no Zorra Jul 2015 #322

I opposed the resolution but could understand the hard choice it represented Babel_17 Jul 2015 #174

Bernie still stands by his pro gun votes arely staircase Jul 2015 #180

Let me put this to you, imthevicar Jul 2015 #209

The question of gun control is very complex, not least because of Damansarajaya Jul 2015 #248

A very revealing and informative thread in so many ways. NRaleighLiberal Jul 2015 #199

Setting aside issues of chickenhawkdom and evolution malthaussen Jul 2015 #203

You have never regretted anything and called what you did a mistake? liberal N proud Jul 2015 #204

Errrr.... TheSarcastinator Jul 2015 #214

The OPer is not running for the highest and most important single job in government. malthaussen Jul 2015 #217

"hundreds of billions dollars" - it's at least a trillion dollars in total costs. PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #281

try about 7 trillion-including care for returning vets-won't talk about neglected infatsructure eom fed-up Jul 2015 #300

Never involving the death of millions, Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #236

Creepy! yellowwoodII Jul 2015 #212

16 minutes would have been a mistake...19..OH NO! Demonaut Jul 2015 #220

Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution... malthaussen Jul 2015 #221

From Wiki: CrispyQ Jul 2015 #222

What is interesting is how few of those senators are still around davidpdx Jul 2015 #307

Hard is 4 deployments to the middle east. onecaliberal Jul 2015 #228

If I ever expressed my feelings about Hillary here I would be banned in minutes olddots Jul 2015 #233

Banned in Minutes LeFleur1 Jul 2015 #253

I don't hate Hillary at all. Puglover Jul 2015 #240

Any Democrat who trusted Bush after he STOLE THE FUCKING ELECTION Damansarajaya Jul 2015 #242

Absolutely. jalan48 Jul 2015 #271

Couldn't agree more. And the appalling thing is that a lot of us Damansarajaya Jul 2015 #319

Circular firing squad....DISMISSED! jomin41 Jul 2015 #251

I do not trust Hillary Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #254

LIKE MANY OTHER DEMOCRATS, SHE WAS STUPID... Herman4747 Jul 2015 #261

running the candidate that perfectly represents the fact that the party's becoming a gaping vacuum MisterP Jul 2015 #265

Thanks, Herman4747 SCantiGOP Jul 2015 #270

Going after Hillary with old arguments uwep Jul 2015 #262

They may be old but they are valid. peace13 Jul 2015 #266

What's a little slaughter amongst friends?... Indepatriot Jul 2015 #268

she did what was best for her at the time HFRN Jul 2015 #263

"best for her" says it all 840high Jul 2015 #272

Maybe she "MISSPOKE" Indepatriot Jul 2015 #267

It's advocacy. Aerows Jul 2015 #273

+1 BeanMusical Jul 2015 #314

You have to admit that The Bush/Cheney/CIA/Pentagon Intelligence apparatus was manipulating. YOHABLO Jul 2015 #278

It wasn't a mistake. However either way, a mistake of what she actually believed, that she could sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #316

MILLIONS of us knew the case for AUMF was lies. Millions. Indepatriot Jul 2015 #318

Sure it can. Adrahil Jul 2015 #321