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Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 11:00 PM Jul 2015

Hillary Clinton Called People on Welfare "Deadbeats" [View all]

(Edited just for clarity)

Hillary Clinton Used To Talk About How The People [Working] Were “No Longer Deadbeats”
As first lady and senator, Clinton talked repeatedly about the transition from welfare to work as a “transition from dependency to dignity.”



Bill Clinton’s overhaul of the welfare system, which was passed in conjunction with a Republican-controlled Congress, replaced a major federal welfare program with block grants to states, required adults to find a job within two years of receiving aid, placed a five-year limit on aid, blocked future legal immigrants from welfare assistance, and cut $24 billion in food stamps. It was denounced by many Democrats, including Peter Edelman, who resigned from his post at the Department of Health and Human Services, arguing that the law would do “serious injury to American children.”
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Clinton began a column in June 1998 with an anecdote about a mother on welfare whose daughter once came home and said, “Mommy, I’m tired of seeing you sitting around the house doing nothing.”

“One day, Rhonda Costa’s daughter came home from school and announced, ‘Mommy, I’m tired of seeing you sitting around the house doing nothing.’ That’s the day Rhonda decided to get off welfare. Today, Rhonda is an administrative assistant at Salomon Smith Barney, a New York financial services firm. After a year and a half on the job, she earns $29,000 a year with full benefits and stock options.
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In another column, this time in March 2000, Clinton described the transition from welfare to work a “transition from dependency to dignity.”
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In a 2002 interview
Clinton also said that people who had moved from welfare to work were “no longer deadbeats.”

“Now that we’ve said these people are no longer deadbeats—they’re actually out there being productive—how do we keep them there?”

read more: http://www.buzzfeed.com/christophermassie/hillary-clinton-used-to-talk-about-how-the-people-on-welfare#.nxl5Yxq13
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certainly implies they had been deadbeats HFRN Jul 2015 #1
Maybe there were some "deadbeats".... Hulk Jul 2015 #31
Meanwhile Bernie respects people. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #44
Pretty much no to all your questions. Hulk Jul 2015 #47
I just want to know what "deadbeat" means? JDPriestly Jul 2015 #51
I have a similar stoop for the same reason.. haikugal Jul 2015 #78
Ask Hillary. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #79
Thanks... Hulk Jul 2015 #112
Sneer at the people you expect to get votes from automatically. Aerows Jul 2015 #116
I don't know how old you are Hulk but I want to tell you notadmblnd Jul 2015 #104
Rest you mind... Hulk Jul 2015 #113
couldn't agree more Merryland Feb 2016 #127
One of the more misleading posts I've seen here SCantiGOP Jul 2015 #85
HRC - Playing The Role The Oligarch Benefactors Demand cantbeserious Jul 2015 #2
All about perspective kcjohn1 Jul 2015 #3
Exactly. Many people seem to also be blind to corporate and wealth welfare. BlueJazz Jul 2015 #16
Weak title context wise. oasis Jul 2015 #4
"these people are no longer deadbeats—they’re actually...being productive—how do we keep there" Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #7
If anything "former deadbeats". Getting off welfare used to be a good thing. oasis Jul 2015 #20
People on welfare are not deadbeats. They are people in need. And a compassionate nation helps Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #24
I agree on much of what you say. I take issue with the thread title oasis Jul 2015 #29
It was not useful terminology then unless you were trying to make political points by division. Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #36
The Republican Revolution in the 1994 oasis Jul 2015 #40
Lamest argument ever. Scuba Jul 2015 #66
If so, we're even. oasis Jul 2015 #68
That's my problem with Hillary: she panders to everyone. Maedhros Jul 2015 #105
Weigh what you know about her accomplisments oasis Jul 2015 #107
I'm not that enamored with her accomplishments, so no. Maedhros Jul 2015 #108
A thousand times this Prism Jul 2015 #48
yes, whatever happened to "there but for fortune" Merryland Feb 2016 #129
You can't call people who were once on welfare "former deadbeats" Ms. Toad Jul 2015 #52
Getting off welfare is STILL a good thing. Your insinuation that the OP says otherwise is weak. rhett o rick Jul 2015 #100
Glad you know the difference between "insinuation" and "crystal clear". oasis Jul 2015 #102
It's really quite straight forward. I will be glad to go thru it one more time. rhett o rick Jul 2015 #117
She has since evolved 6chars Jul 2015 #54
that's nice to know Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #55
Provide the context then. Tell me how she used welfare recipients and deadbeats in a positive manner Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #9
My bad. Misleading title. That's more to the point. (eom) oasis Jul 2015 #19
It's how she rolls. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #5
Nice rewrite of the title of the article and twisting of the content there. onehandle Jul 2015 #6
My title's actually more accurate than the one in the article Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #11
Yes. You really added to the journalistic credibility of 'BuzzFeed.' onehandle Jul 2015 #13
Lol! Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #14
So, she didn't say this? Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #12
Ewww. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #8
She has no chance to win the GE. People don't trust her, and it's no surprise. nt Zorra Jul 2015 #10
And here is Exhibit A. Aerows Jul 2015 #114
even if she actually did, ericson00 Jul 2015 #15
Lol- so we let people starve so we can win the White House? Hydra Jul 2015 #27
Nothing succeeds like success. oasis Jul 2015 #33
What are you? A misogynist? A Karl Rove plant? Or simply a hater? RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #17
Oh, make the pain stop! John Poet Jul 2015 #18
Don't miss this one... Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #21
I wonder if she's evolved? pa28 Jul 2015 #22
With A Moistened Finger... In The Wind... WillyT Jul 2015 #23
"framed as a necessary evil" Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #37
or Qadima attacking Gaza--to keep the REAL warmongers, Likud, out of office, natch! MisterP Jul 2015 #83
I'll grant you that... chervilant Nov 2015 #121
I'm not really interested in what may have been ibegurpard Jul 2015 #25
Sickening, but I've read her own words regarding her support for the sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #26
That's because it is Hydra Jul 2015 #30
well put. 2banon Jul 2015 #35
What the bill did was to force poor mothers into cheap labor jobs sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #81
That's all it's really about Hydra Jul 2015 #106
...! KoKo Jul 2015 #80
Was this post intended on bashing or smearing Hillary Clinton? I have seen posts saying this is not Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #28
Posting a position taken, I would say Hydra Jul 2015 #32
She has been talking about economics. In fact she had something tosay about Jeb's comment. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #62
Sure, but she's committing to as little as possible Hydra Jul 2015 #71
I know her plan to get profit sharing back to the employees does not put money into the pockets of Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #75
Tell Ms. Clinton that Hydra Jul 2015 #77
Perhaps tell the $15 minimum wage promoters the minimum wage in Seattle is $15, aim higher. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #82
I sure would like to sneak into GOP headquarters and have a look in their dirt box. zeemike Jul 2015 #34
The GOP absolutely would like her in the general election Hydra Jul 2015 #38
The beauty of it is they can make it work either way. zeemike Jul 2015 #42
Hillary is the candidate the GOP does not want in the general, listen to Bill Krystal, he wants some Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #63
Bill Krystal... Bwahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Scuba Jul 2015 #67
LOL Hydra Jul 2015 #72
Has Bernie been on the cover of any magazines? Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #73
You're not bothered by the excessive coziness with the Bush Family by the DLC? Hydra Jul 2015 #74
Not bothered with the TLC for sure, since it is a think tank which plans contrary to popular belief. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #76
all you need to know about the Clintons. Merryland Feb 2016 #130
who are you people?? sunnystarr Jul 2015 #119
There is so much wrong with this post that I don't even know where to start Hydra Jul 2015 #120
What did you call the thieving employers and bank$ter/donors that fucked them over and jtuck004 Jul 2015 #39
When you make $200,000.00 to speak for 45 minutes you figure poverty is a choice. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #41
March of 2000? Are you sure she was getting that much then? oasis Jul 2015 #43
Do you think things have improved since then? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #45
I'm guessing you're not going to answer the question put to you. oasis Jul 2015 #69
Why wouldn't they? A former FLOTUS, published author,.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #92
Would you turn down $200,000 to speak to a group? Hell no, look at how much a football player gets Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #64
Hillary isn't on the ballot to play football. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #91
Wow, you missed on this one for sure. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #95
You're the one that tried to equate the Presidency to a game. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #96
Oh, I did not post the following: Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #97
So,...you're comparing celebrities? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #98
Please quit "bashing" HRC by quoting her and discussing her history. Indepatriot Jul 2015 #46
When discussion of her public service record and "bashing" become the same thing . . . pa28 Jul 2015 #49
they might as well be waving the St Andrew's Cross! MisterP Jul 2015 #50
Sad, so disappointed in this woman, I used to support her, thought sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #53
But she "connects" whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #56
Look at the quotes from this article BainsBane Jul 2015 #57
Edit: let's see Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #58
The other OP links directly to the article cited in Buzzfeed BainsBane Jul 2015 #59
ok hang on I'm checking too, about gettysburg something Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #60
I believe everything is in order. All the quotes check out as real. Here are the links. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #61
I'm glad you were able to post a link to the article. Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #86
Yes. Some are wrongly claiming she was only referring to "deadbeat dads"... Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #99
She's also saying that welfare recipients have no dignity. CharlotteVale Jul 2015 #65
In the Clinton's social circles, folks on Social Security are considered deadbeats. NorthCarolina Jul 2015 #70
I've read the articles. LiberalAndProud Jul 2015 #84
Thank you for this comment. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #88
Your point is taken. LiberalAndProud Jul 2015 #89
Yes, it was part of a war, but I believe it a mistake to see the Clinton's BainsBane Jul 2015 #110
Sound points BainsBane Jul 2015 #109
Did Rhonda Costa grab her Gucci bag and drive her Cadillac to that interview at Salomon? frylock Jul 2015 #87
Debunked: People have wrongly claimed Hillary was only referring to "deadbeat dads" Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #90
... SidDithers Jul 2015 #93
Very telling. This indicates utter contempt for disadvantaged folks of all kinds. Zorra Jul 2015 #94
Indeed so. nt Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #101
$29,000 a year working for a multi-billion dollar company. WDIM Jul 2015 #103
+1000 Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #118
Let me make sure I understand YOU rock Jul 2015 #111
The people being asked to vote for Hillary Aerows Jul 2015 #115
I'm always called a "deadbeat" Chickey Feb 2016 #122
See... just today.. Chickey Feb 2016 #123
Hi and welcome to DU Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #124
Aww, thanks. Chickey Feb 2016 #125
Tell me she's not a Republican. Merryland Feb 2016 #126
Goldwater would be proud of his gal. Merryland Feb 2016 #128
Kick azmom Feb 2016 #131
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