2016 Postmortem

BainsBane

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31. One man doesn't fix a system

Sat Jul 18, 2015, 06:41 PM

Jul 2015

Particularly one that can only be solved through constitutional amendment or a new SCOTUS ruling.
Clinton also seeks to fix the system. She promises to appoint SCOTUS judges who will overturn Citizens United and to propose legislation banning dark money. She also supports a constitutional amendment to overturn C.U. None of the candidates have proposed public financing, which I believe is the only long-term solution. That too will require a constitutional amendment.

Your absurd non-sequitur about Kissinger is an example of the sort of approach to politics I loathe.
The notion that you think one Secretary of State should not appear with a former one, or be rude when she greets him, is among the most ludicrous criticisms of Clinton that exists. You can bet Kerry has met with him, as has every SoS or anyone who is prominent in diplomatic circles. Sanders likely hasn't because he has nothing to do with US diplomacy other than his Senate votes, unwavering support for Israel and efforts to arm them to fight ISIS for us.

I addressed why I support Clinton over Sanders in this post here. Rather than repeating myself I will let you read it there, if you are actually interested. http://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=434515

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Hillary won't take Super PAC money either: Bernie, PACs, and Super PACs [View all] BainsBane Jul 2015 OP

You figured out how Super-PACs work! arcane1 Jul 2015 #1

The OP explains both BainsBane Jul 2015 #5

Who make what claim? arcane1 Jul 2015 #7

The claim oft repeated that he has sworn not to take money from Super PACs BainsBane Jul 2015 #13

We've known about the (non-Super) PACs all along. They're in that donation graph of Clinton/Sanders arcane1 Jul 2015 #14

So what you care about is money that goes to Clinton BainsBane Jul 2015 #17

Fact of the matter is that Bernie supporters don't know he has personal affiliation with PACs Sheepshank Jul 2015 #30

Over the years Sanders has gotten a higher percentage of his contributions from PACs than.... George II Jul 2015 #35

She (he? if so sorry!) already did explain the difference between the two. George II Jul 2015 #34

Stop being logical BB! mcar Jul 2015 #2

I hate when that happens shenmue Jul 2015 #40

Hillary is raising money for her SuperPAC virtualobserver Jul 2015 #3

“It’s a free country,” he said. BainsBane Jul 2015 #9

I repeat.... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #12

then I suggest you consult the dictionary BainsBane Jul 2015 #15

If you can't see the difference between Hillary raising money for her SuperPAC.... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #20

Is that illegal? She's going to need hundreds of millions of dollars once she's the nominee... George II Jul 2015 #36

no, but this thread is trying to imply that Bernie is doing exactly the same thing.... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #37

Yet. In fact, if a SuperPAC decides to spend millions of dollars to support Sanders' campaign.... George II Jul 2015 #41

I am forced to type this over and over and over and over virtualobserver Jul 2015 #43

I know his spokesperson has said that, but its well known already that it's going to happen. George II Jul 2015 #44

It was announced by someone who (1) has never met Bernie virtualobserver Jul 2015 #48

They can not take money, but Colbert and Jon Stewart proved that there is no real impediment, Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #4

Thanks. Yes, I remember that BainsBane Jul 2015 #10

"Focusing on one man as the savior" is a strawman, and is not based in real life. arcane1 Jul 2015 #16

Hardly made-up BainsBane Jul 2015 #18

Stewart and Colbert's resoltuionon Superpac's (Link below) Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #6

Very nicely said. Recommended. guillaumeb Jul 2015 #8

We all know that candidates are not sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #11

Excellent! It's looking more like Bernie is quite the opportunist. R B Garr Jul 2015 #19

Thank you. It's been a point that I have been trying to make. Raine1967 Jul 2015 #21

SuperPACs are Hired Guns used by Candidates 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #22

They absolutely find creative ways BainsBane Jul 2015 #23

If you feel the system is really rotten 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #24

Because Hillary, who has the best shot at Prez, will appoint SCOTUS JaneyVee Jul 2015 #25

So will Sanders 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #27

It is really great to see the next president who is able to have a cordial relationship Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #29

This is the "Club" that George Carlin was famously talking about 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #32

Hillary will make a great president, she works for Americans, all lives matter. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #46

You better not say "all lives matter" anywhere near Netroots Nation 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #47

I don't hide my opinion from anyone, I also do not feel threatened by Netroots. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #49

One man doesn't fix a system BainsBane Jul 2015 #31

If Hillary can talk to that traitor daybranch Jul 2015 #45

I wonder if any of the (non-Super) PACs affiliated with Clinton have been fined? George II Jul 2015 #38

Since you seem to know so much about sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #26

"Hillary Clinton's SuperPAC" was in fact created long before she announced... George II Jul 2015 #52

It might be enough to sway some here and there, regardless of how ridiculous the claim. NorthCarolina Jul 2015 #28

Ah yes...it's the two dirty angle attacks... SoapBox Jul 2015 #33

That's like when a candidate brags about not taking money from corporations. bluestateguy Jul 2015 #39

We've had this thread three times this week BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #42

OK! And of course, you can provide links to a few of the many posts MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #50

Great post. Thanks. nt SunSeeker Jul 2015 #51