2016 Postmortem

R B Garr

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19. Excellent! It's looking more like Bernie is quite the opportunist.

Sat Jul 18, 2015, 05:47 PM

Jul 2015

I would bet there are a lot of people wondering when the day(s) would come that Bernie's messages about money in politics would be exposed as the ploys they are.

He also doesn't seem to mind at all taking advantage of what others have done in the past to pave the way for him to seek the limelight now. He's benefitting from Obama breaking some of the stereotypes about candidates most recently through Obama's highly funded campaigns. He's also benefitted from Bill Clinton's prior campaigns where he slugged it out with the press as being the first candidate without a military record and having to explain his prior minimal pot use. Yet Bernie is being presented as some type of party stalwart with grand ideas, although he's never made any of the personal sacrifices or spent the political capital to bring himself to a national level until now when it's safe for him after others have done the necessary hard work. He's just an opportunist.

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Hillary won't take Super PAC money either: Bernie, PACs, and Super PACs [View all] BainsBane Jul 2015 OP

You figured out how Super-PACs work! arcane1 Jul 2015 #1

The OP explains both BainsBane Jul 2015 #5

Who make what claim? arcane1 Jul 2015 #7

The claim oft repeated that he has sworn not to take money from Super PACs BainsBane Jul 2015 #13

We've known about the (non-Super) PACs all along. They're in that donation graph of Clinton/Sanders arcane1 Jul 2015 #14

So what you care about is money that goes to Clinton BainsBane Jul 2015 #17

Fact of the matter is that Bernie supporters don't know he has personal affiliation with PACs Sheepshank Jul 2015 #30

Over the years Sanders has gotten a higher percentage of his contributions from PACs than.... George II Jul 2015 #35

She (he? if so sorry!) already did explain the difference between the two. George II Jul 2015 #34

Stop being logical BB! mcar Jul 2015 #2

I hate when that happens shenmue Jul 2015 #40

Hillary is raising money for her SuperPAC virtualobserver Jul 2015 #3

“It’s a free country,” he said. BainsBane Jul 2015 #9

I repeat.... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #12

then I suggest you consult the dictionary BainsBane Jul 2015 #15

If you can't see the difference between Hillary raising money for her SuperPAC.... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #20

Is that illegal? She's going to need hundreds of millions of dollars once she's the nominee... George II Jul 2015 #36

no, but this thread is trying to imply that Bernie is doing exactly the same thing.... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #37

Yet. In fact, if a SuperPAC decides to spend millions of dollars to support Sanders' campaign.... George II Jul 2015 #41

I am forced to type this over and over and over and over virtualobserver Jul 2015 #43

I know his spokesperson has said that, but its well known already that it's going to happen. George II Jul 2015 #44

It was announced by someone who (1) has never met Bernie virtualobserver Jul 2015 #48

They can not take money, but Colbert and Jon Stewart proved that there is no real impediment, Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #4

Thanks. Yes, I remember that BainsBane Jul 2015 #10

"Focusing on one man as the savior" is a strawman, and is not based in real life. arcane1 Jul 2015 #16

Hardly made-up BainsBane Jul 2015 #18

Stewart and Colbert's resoltuionon Superpac's (Link below) Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #6

Very nicely said. Recommended. guillaumeb Jul 2015 #8

We all know that candidates are not sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #11

Excellent! It's looking more like Bernie is quite the opportunist. R B Garr Jul 2015 #19

Thank you. It's been a point that I have been trying to make. Raine1967 Jul 2015 #21

SuperPACs are Hired Guns used by Candidates 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #22

They absolutely find creative ways BainsBane Jul 2015 #23

If you feel the system is really rotten 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #24

Because Hillary, who has the best shot at Prez, will appoint SCOTUS JaneyVee Jul 2015 #25

So will Sanders 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #27

It is really great to see the next president who is able to have a cordial relationship Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #29

This is the "Club" that George Carlin was famously talking about 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #32

Hillary will make a great president, she works for Americans, all lives matter. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #46

You better not say "all lives matter" anywhere near Netroots Nation 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #47

I don't hide my opinion from anyone, I also do not feel threatened by Netroots. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #49

One man doesn't fix a system BainsBane Jul 2015 #31

If Hillary can talk to that traitor daybranch Jul 2015 #45

I wonder if any of the (non-Super) PACs affiliated with Clinton have been fined? George II Jul 2015 #38

Since you seem to know so much about sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #26

"Hillary Clinton's SuperPAC" was in fact created long before she announced... George II Jul 2015 #52

It might be enough to sway some here and there, regardless of how ridiculous the claim. NorthCarolina Jul 2015 #28

Ah yes...it's the two dirty angle attacks... SoapBox Jul 2015 #33

That's like when a candidate brags about not taking money from corporations. bluestateguy Jul 2015 #39

We've had this thread three times this week BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #42

OK! And of course, you can provide links to a few of the many posts MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #50

Great post. Thanks. nt SunSeeker Jul 2015 #51