2016 Postmortem

jeff47

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79. Sanders isn't a state legislator. How, specifically, is he responsible for passing it?

Reply to SunSeeker (Reply #55)

Tue Jul 7, 2015, 11:07 PM

Jul 2015

Oh wait, I was asking you for logical consistency. My bad.

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I support single-payer, but HRC opposes it. I like her, but I think I'll support Sanders instead. [View all] gobears10 Jul 2015 OP

I admire your thinking, and welcome to DU! CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2015 #1

k & r. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #2

I was a supporter of Hillary when she began taking the initiative and running for office sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #3

She tried to implement single payer, remember? BainsBane Jul 2015 #4

+1000 sheshe2 Jul 2015 #5

I thought you supported people's right to speak? Bonobo Jul 2015 #6

Fact check time... What was the 1993 Clinton health reform plan ...? Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #7

I understood it was BainsBane Jul 2015 #8

I hate to admit this but... Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #9

I agree with you brain... diverdownjt Jul 2015 #41

He hasn't "given up" BainsBane Jul 2015 #43

Bingo Little Star Jul 2015 #46

Do you have ANY evidence that "she tried to implement single payer"? kath Jul 2015 #10

Someone else linked to the Wikipedia article BainsBane Jul 2015 #12

not true gobears10 Jul 2015 #14

I'm with you GOBEARS...N/T diverdownjt Jul 2015 #42

Your OP is factually accurate, despite what Hillary's defenders may claim. Welcome to DU. Scuba Jul 2015 #50

not true gobears10 Jul 2015 #11

If you can look that up BainsBane Jul 2015 #17

HRC opposed single-payer on her website gobears10 Jul 2015 #13

That isn't her website BainsBane Jul 2015 #20

she opposes it gobears10 Jul 2015 #22

That isn't a quote BainsBane Jul 2015 #36

She doesn't say she opposes it for "idealogical" reasons. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #40

Clinton's 2008 campaign website isn't her website. jeff47 Jul 2015 #78

hillary attacked obama for having supported single-payer gobears10 Jul 2015 #18

During an election campaign in which you said you supported her BainsBane Jul 2015 #21

HRC supported individual mandate gobears10 Jul 2015 #23

how about instead of switching tactics here passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #29

It isn't the issue BainsBane Jul 2015 #32

I'm not trying to switch the discussion to campaign tactics passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #39

No, Hillary never supported or worked for single payer Dems to Win Jul 2015 #27

But now she opposes it. another "evolution" on her part Doctor_J Jul 2015 #73

Bullshit BainsBane Jul 2015 #74

stop these fantasies in your head Doctor_J Jul 2015 #76

Yet another reason, among many, PatrickforO Jul 2015 #15

You know, upon reviewing your post, the thing that really gets me is... PatrickforO Jul 2015 #16

That is political reality BainsBane Jul 2015 #24

money in politics...I agree gobears10 Jul 2015 #26

No, what pisses me off is that the idea of a president leading the American people PatrickforO Jul 2015 #30

Teddy nor FDR passed healthcare BainsBane Jul 2015 #35

Why in the Sam Hell do we have to get a majority in Congress FIRST? stillwaiting Jul 2015 #44

It's all about the money with her. That's what bugs me. Deep down she feels money trumps all. Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #34

Apparently Hillary has no designs on being a leader if elected. Makes sense, considering her ... Scuba Jul 2015 #51

She didn't OPPOSE single-payer. She just didn't think it could get passed. pnwmom Jul 2015 #19

she opposes it... gobears10 Jul 2015 #25

That's why she tried to implement single payer during the Clinton Administration...right? brooklynite Jul 2015 #57

nope gobears10 Jul 2015 #65

She is NOT going to fight for it. Period. stillwaiting Jul 2015 #45

Bernie couldn't get single payer in Vermont even with the support of the Governor and legislature. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #28

Every time he speaks he emphasizes that NOTHING of significance will get done unless we stand up and Indepatriot Jul 2015 #33

+1 nt DirtyHippyBastard Jul 2015 #37

Well we can't do it if Bernie's AWOL when the going gets tough. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #38

That article is nothing more than a bullshit hit piece on Bernie. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #48

What is incorrect in the article? Bernie walked away from the hard work. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #59

it wold be much harder to get single payer on the state level questionseverything Jul 2015 #66

So why did Bernie say Vermont's single payer would be "the model for the US"? SunSeeker Jul 2015 #67

as you have been told many times in this thread questionseverything Jul 2015 #70

There are plenty of people fighting for you on the national level. And getting results. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #71

Get lost Enthusiast Jul 2015 #68

You mischaracterize the very article you posted. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #49

"Bernie has nothing to do with it." SunSeeker Jul 2015 #55

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #69

Sanders isn't a state legislator. How, specifically, is he responsible for passing it? jeff47 Jul 2015 #79

Please elaborate on Sanders' position and authority in state government TheKentuckian Jul 2015 #54

See post 55 above. nt SunSeeker Jul 2015 #56

Uh... Shumlin didn't even give it an effort. Man of Distinction Jul 2015 #61

Neither did Bernie. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #62

Because Bernie isn't a state Senator? Man of Distinction Jul 2015 #63

Bernie is Vermont's Senator. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #64

Ok, how many votes does Sanders cast in the state government? jeff47 Jul 2015 #80

How about him showing some leadership? SunSeeker Jul 2015 #82

Leadership in the government he is not a part of. jeff47 Jul 2015 #83

He represents the entire state of Vermont. Suddenly he has no voice in Vermont single payer? SunSeeker Jul 2015 #85

The Majority of the people in the US do support single payer passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #31

Health insurance profit = pure waste Enthusiast Jul 2015 #47

The insurance companies take a nice chunk of our health care dollars while adding no value ... Scuba Jul 2015 #52

You are so correct. Will the TPP prohibit single payer in the USA? Enthusiast Jul 2015 #53

No. Besides, I don't think Malaysian Health will get on the Exchanges. Hoyt Jul 2015 #77

and if Sanders loses to the Republicans, are you prepared to have your "not single-payer" repealed? brooklynite Jul 2015 #58

I'll alert the media. Darb Jul 2015 #60

Ironically, HRC likely favors single payer as much as anyone Babel_17 Jul 2015 #72

kickity kick 2banon Jul 2015 #75

It's an economic issue as well… Look at how much of our GDP is taken up by privately administered... MrMickeysMom Jul 2015 #81

K&R cprise Jul 2015 #84