2016 Postmortem

gobears10

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22. she opposes it

Tue Jul 7, 2015, 12:56 AM

Jul 2015

Read my OP. Those are direct quotes from her. She has an ideological opposition to single-payer.

Also, that quote was from her official campaign website in 2007-08.

Here's another article outlining her opposition to single-payer, entitled: "Hillary Clinton Likes Obamacare, And Opposes Single-Payer Health Insurance"

Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-zuesse/hillary-clinton-likes-oba_b_4881399.html

Excerpt:

Hillary Clinton has confirmed, to a paying audience of 20,000 sellers of electronic health records systems, that she supports Obamacare, and opposes single-payer health insurance.

Speaking to a closed-to-the-press meeting of the "HIMSS14" (Healthcare Information and Management Systems Conference 2014) in Orlando Florida on February 26th, she condemned the Canadian and other nations' single-payer healthcare systems by saying, "We don't have one size fits all; our country is quite diverse. What works in New York City won't work in Albuquerque." The presumption is that what works in Canada cannot work here, that local control must trump everything in order to fix what's wrong with American health care.

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I support single-payer, but HRC opposes it. I like her, but I think I'll support Sanders instead. [View all] gobears10 Jul 2015 OP

I admire your thinking, and welcome to DU! CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2015 #1

k & r. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #2

I was a supporter of Hillary when she began taking the initiative and running for office sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #3

She tried to implement single payer, remember? BainsBane Jul 2015 #4

+1000 sheshe2 Jul 2015 #5

I thought you supported people's right to speak? Bonobo Jul 2015 #6

Fact check time... What was the 1993 Clinton health reform plan ...? Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #7

I understood it was BainsBane Jul 2015 #8

I hate to admit this but... Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #9

I agree with you brain... diverdownjt Jul 2015 #41

He hasn't "given up" BainsBane Jul 2015 #43

Bingo Little Star Jul 2015 #46

Do you have ANY evidence that "she tried to implement single payer"? kath Jul 2015 #10

Someone else linked to the Wikipedia article BainsBane Jul 2015 #12

not true gobears10 Jul 2015 #14

I'm with you GOBEARS...N/T diverdownjt Jul 2015 #42

Your OP is factually accurate, despite what Hillary's defenders may claim. Welcome to DU. Scuba Jul 2015 #50

not true gobears10 Jul 2015 #11

If you can look that up BainsBane Jul 2015 #17

HRC opposed single-payer on her website gobears10 Jul 2015 #13

That isn't her website BainsBane Jul 2015 #20

she opposes it gobears10 Jul 2015 #22

That isn't a quote BainsBane Jul 2015 #36

She doesn't say she opposes it for "idealogical" reasons. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #40

Clinton's 2008 campaign website isn't her website. jeff47 Jul 2015 #78

hillary attacked obama for having supported single-payer gobears10 Jul 2015 #18

During an election campaign in which you said you supported her BainsBane Jul 2015 #21

HRC supported individual mandate gobears10 Jul 2015 #23

how about instead of switching tactics here passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #29

It isn't the issue BainsBane Jul 2015 #32

I'm not trying to switch the discussion to campaign tactics passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #39

No, Hillary never supported or worked for single payer Dems to Win Jul 2015 #27

But now she opposes it. another "evolution" on her part Doctor_J Jul 2015 #73

Bullshit BainsBane Jul 2015 #74

stop these fantasies in your head Doctor_J Jul 2015 #76

Yet another reason, among many, PatrickforO Jul 2015 #15

You know, upon reviewing your post, the thing that really gets me is... PatrickforO Jul 2015 #16

That is political reality BainsBane Jul 2015 #24

money in politics...I agree gobears10 Jul 2015 #26

No, what pisses me off is that the idea of a president leading the American people PatrickforO Jul 2015 #30

Teddy nor FDR passed healthcare BainsBane Jul 2015 #35

Why in the Sam Hell do we have to get a majority in Congress FIRST? stillwaiting Jul 2015 #44

It's all about the money with her. That's what bugs me. Deep down she feels money trumps all. Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #34

Apparently Hillary has no designs on being a leader if elected. Makes sense, considering her ... Scuba Jul 2015 #51

She didn't OPPOSE single-payer. She just didn't think it could get passed. pnwmom Jul 2015 #19

she opposes it... gobears10 Jul 2015 #25

That's why she tried to implement single payer during the Clinton Administration...right? brooklynite Jul 2015 #57

nope gobears10 Jul 2015 #65

She is NOT going to fight for it. Period. stillwaiting Jul 2015 #45

Bernie couldn't get single payer in Vermont even with the support of the Governor and legislature. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #28

Every time he speaks he emphasizes that NOTHING of significance will get done unless we stand up and Indepatriot Jul 2015 #33

+1 nt DirtyHippyBastard Jul 2015 #37

Well we can't do it if Bernie's AWOL when the going gets tough. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #38

That article is nothing more than a bullshit hit piece on Bernie. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #48

What is incorrect in the article? Bernie walked away from the hard work. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #59

it wold be much harder to get single payer on the state level questionseverything Jul 2015 #66

So why did Bernie say Vermont's single payer would be "the model for the US"? SunSeeker Jul 2015 #67

as you have been told many times in this thread questionseverything Jul 2015 #70

There are plenty of people fighting for you on the national level. And getting results. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #71

Get lost Enthusiast Jul 2015 #68

You mischaracterize the very article you posted. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #49

"Bernie has nothing to do with it." SunSeeker Jul 2015 #55

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #69

Sanders isn't a state legislator. How, specifically, is he responsible for passing it? jeff47 Jul 2015 #79

Please elaborate on Sanders' position and authority in state government TheKentuckian Jul 2015 #54

See post 55 above. nt SunSeeker Jul 2015 #56

Uh... Shumlin didn't even give it an effort. Man of Distinction Jul 2015 #61

Neither did Bernie. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #62

Because Bernie isn't a state Senator? Man of Distinction Jul 2015 #63

Bernie is Vermont's Senator. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #64

Ok, how many votes does Sanders cast in the state government? jeff47 Jul 2015 #80

How about him showing some leadership? SunSeeker Jul 2015 #82

Leadership in the government he is not a part of. jeff47 Jul 2015 #83

He represents the entire state of Vermont. Suddenly he has no voice in Vermont single payer? SunSeeker Jul 2015 #85

The Majority of the people in the US do support single payer passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #31

Health insurance profit = pure waste Enthusiast Jul 2015 #47

The insurance companies take a nice chunk of our health care dollars while adding no value ... Scuba Jul 2015 #52

You are so correct. Will the TPP prohibit single payer in the USA? Enthusiast Jul 2015 #53

No. Besides, I don't think Malaysian Health will get on the Exchanges. Hoyt Jul 2015 #77

and if Sanders loses to the Republicans, are you prepared to have your "not single-payer" repealed? brooklynite Jul 2015 #58

I'll alert the media. Darb Jul 2015 #60

Ironically, HRC likely favors single payer as much as anyone Babel_17 Jul 2015 #72

kickity kick 2banon Jul 2015 #75

It's an economic issue as well… Look at how much of our GDP is taken up by privately administered... MrMickeysMom Jul 2015 #81

K&R cprise Jul 2015 #84