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hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
12. a pretty good summary
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 10:29 AM
Jun 2012

except it leaves out the part about Democratic complicity.

Democrats keep using their bully pulpit to say "Republicans are right"

Will tax increases, even on the rich, hurt the economy? Republicans think so.

Major Democrats say - Republicans are right.

Do we have a serious budget deficit problem which requires spending cuts and entitlement "reform". Republicans think so.

Major Democrats say - Republicans are right.

Will tax cuts create jobs? Republicans think so (or claim they do).

Major Democrats say - Republicans are right.


The other insane part is that Republicans are offering economic policies which have clearly failed, but that Democrats are NOT offering a clear alternative. Instead Democrats concede most of the terms of the argument. They agree with Republicans that we have a problem and they agree with most of the proposed solutions. The Democratic alternative to the Ryan budget seems to be Simpson-Bowles.

Well, I guess that offers a clear choice. Republicans want to break my left arm and Democrats want to break my right arm.

Hmm, tough choice. Left or righ? Right or left? Which arm do I want broken?


Fortunately for Democrats, I am left handed, but still ...



My response as a voter to BOTH of them is "How about I break BOTH of your arms instead?"

We must get control of a major media source and try to combat the propaganda rhett o rick Jun 2012 #1
So true. tabasco Jun 2012 #3
it's really sad. barbtries Jun 2012 #4
The Emperor's clothing of NPR was disrobed to my ears back in 2000 2banon Jun 2012 #32
well put. barbtries Jun 2012 #39
I'm with you two on this. Plucketeer Jun 2012 #48
You're absolutely right about the funding matter.. 2banon Jun 2012 #54
This 33% has a very loud megaphone... bjobotts Jun 2012 #65
I only listen to PR for the BBC, Car Talk, and On Being. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #75
Switch to your local Pacifica station if you can find one. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #61
Thanks. The link for the Pacifica network for the Kansas City area - RC Jun 2012 #69
i'll check it out. barbtries Jun 2012 #83
NPR has gone all to Hell. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #74
I agree. nm rhett o rick Jun 2012 #92
I understand and agree, but if you merely mirrored Foxed-Up News you would be rhett o rick Jun 2012 #21
LOL! tabasco Jun 2012 #26
Just a small thing about propaganda Scootaloo Jun 2012 #34
Just a small thing about "news" tabasco Jun 2012 #37
Hear, Here! 2banon Jun 2012 #55
My point went over your head, I think Scootaloo Jun 2012 #56
+1. Your post gets at some deep issues. napoleon_in_rags Jun 2012 #51
In Europe they don't even bother with the "we are non-partisan" BS. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #76
Which isn't bad at all Scootaloo Jun 2012 #84
Yep. And also, just because an article is slanted, does not mean it is factually wrong. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #88
What about George Soros? nxylas Jun 2012 #90
Dang (face slap), how could I forget Soros. Esp when he seems to be the only name rhett o rick Jun 2012 #91
This needs to get out there onlyadream Jun 2012 #2
I agree with you Mosaic Jun 2012 #30
I've been going back and forth on Facebook onlyadream Jun 2012 #49
Can't talk to an echo chamber constantly... 414 Jun 2012 #95
If Senator Reid had called for cloture votes, I would agree with you that the Republicans AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #5
In the 110th congress there were a record number of cloture votes. drm604 Jun 2012 #8
Thank you for the additional information. Somehow, in the past, filibusters were televised as were AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #27
Here ya go Tx4obama Jun 2012 #45
Thanks. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #47
The single most important thing is to ensure SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #6
My dream is to give Congress back to the Democrats. xtraxritical Jun 2012 #9
Part of me says f' the Dems in Congress because... mike dub Jun 2012 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author mike dub Jun 2012 #59
That would be the optimal outcome. SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #63
It is equally important to elect Democratic Senators, Reps, and Governors. nm rhett o rick Jun 2012 #24
Absolutely SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #62
GOP strategy shows the length they will go to cbrer Jun 2012 #7
The political landscape chervilant Jun 2012 #10
GOP Strategy: Obstruct economic recovery, then blame it on the Democrats Martin Eden Jun 2012 #11
yes grasswire Jun 2012 #29
Unfortunately this is true. AnnieK401 Jun 2012 #31
a pretty good summary hfojvt Jun 2012 #12
Do you have quotes from 'major' Democrats who say additional tax cuts for the rich will create jobs? emulatorloo Jun 2012 #15
possible that I slightly over-stated that hfojvt Jun 2012 #22
Balderdash AndyTiedye Jun 2012 #38
either way it is trickle down hfojvt Jun 2012 #43
"The Democrats want to end the Bush tax cuts for those making over $250K." Some of us do. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #52
That is Because the Republicans Filibustered the Version that Ended the Tax Cuts Over $250K AndyTiedye Jun 2012 #66
Do you really believe that is what caused some to be Blue-Dog Democrats, DINOs, AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #72
Like! 2banon Jun 2012 #33
Inevitable result of backbone failure on point Jun 2012 #13
Yes, so true. NT. appal_jack Jun 2012 #14
I used to the think the same, now not so much. 2banon Jun 2012 #35
Divide and Conquer. Dems are lame. but we need to pull together, vote, protest crunch60 Jun 2012 #46
They are not "spineless", they are doing what their corporate masters PAY THEM to do. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #77
Thanks for posting this. It describes the situation perfectly. emulatorloo Jun 2012 #16
To me ... bayareaboy Jun 2012 #17
Exactly what I keep thinking siligut Jun 2012 #18
No one ever said that people who want to win by any means necessary 2on2u Jun 2012 #19
The question of Sanity doesn't really enter into it.. 2banon Jun 2012 #36
The Constitutional Convention itself was a conservative freakout. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #78
exactly... and not a lot has changed 2banon Jun 2012 #94
all we are anymore is America Inc. its all about the money and not for democracy april Jun 2012 #20
Yes it's insane ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #23
actually it's a product of the new normal stupidicus Jun 2012 #25
WOW, what an unintelligible post. Perhaps you could simplify this somewhat. juajen Jun 2012 #64
sorry, I'm not a teacher stupidicus Jun 2012 #71
Huh? I understood it just fine. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #79
Once again I feel the Republicans are starting to dominate the public discourse. Kablooie Jun 2012 #28
You know what? I like President Obama but toddwv Jun 2012 #40
Judging by the way Obama (and Biden) have been sounding lately, Brigid Jun 2012 #73
Sounds like the Republicans have become bullies, not stewarts of the public interest. I am not earcandle Jun 2012 #41
Atlas Wept earcandle Jun 2012 #42
I don't understand how the cripplers of our democracy get the credibility to lie, cheat, and steal? earcandle Jun 2012 #44
we could have, should have done MUCH BETTER Skittles Jun 2012 #50
And who pushed the Catfood Commission I/II? blkmusclmachine Jun 2012 #53
those kinda things must be ignored stupidicus Jun 2012 #70
I'm only voting for Obama because the alternative is the ABYSS. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #80
lol stupidicus Jun 2012 #85
Not just irrational, but ANTI-RATIONAL. Pathological. Cthonic energy. nt patrice Jun 2012 #57
It's time for more recalls. nt AverageJoe90 Jun 2012 #60
The GOP drove the economy into a ditch and when the tow truck came they flattened its tires. KurtNYC Jun 2012 #67
Love the tow truck analogy. hadn't heard that before. crazylikafox Jun 2012 #82
It is a re-work of an earlier line from when Obama started and they kept whining KurtNYC Jun 2012 #86
Yours is better. crazylikafox Jun 2012 #87
but ... but ... but mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2012 #68
don't believe the hype, matter of fact, tune out the rightwing spin altogther graham4anything Jun 2012 #81
Don't believe the GOPers...they will lose their asses come Nov opihimoimoi Jun 2012 #89
THE PRESIDENT IS SLOWLY LEARNING HIS FDR LESSONS... drynberg Jun 2012 #93
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