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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: NEWS FLASH: Hillary is not nominated [View all]BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)18. Pitchforks are nice, but money talks. Again, need I remind you of Citizens United?
Senators Warren and Sanders will be annihilated by Wall Street and Koch money, and pitchforks don't buy advertising or pay for campaign HQs and staff.
It's a nice pipedream that any national election can be won by a candidate with no name recognition without the $$$ of Wall Street. The irony is, Citizens United is thanks to those who voted for Nader (whose campaign was backed by corporate cash and Republicans who actually supported G.W. Bush) instead of Al Gore in 2000 because "there's NO difference between the two!". Those idealistic purity votes brought the elections so close that it was easy-breezy for Bush's henchmen to steal...and then we got Roberts and Alito who, in turn, gave us Citizens United. See where I'm going with this?
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Pitchforks are nice, but money talks. Again, need I remind you of Citizens United?
BlueCaliDem
Jan 2015
#18
Hillary had all of those things in 2008, and still didn't get the nomination.
winter is coming
Jan 2015
#22
Much like everybody else - even today - she underesitmated Barack H. Obama to her detriment.
BlueCaliDem
Jan 2015
#23
Likewise, WiC. Your anecdotal experiences aside, then Senator Clinton didn't do all too shabby
BlueCaliDem
Jan 2015
#27
I want someone in the WH who'll actually try to do something positive about income inequality.
winter is coming
Jan 2015
#29
Presidents don't decide national policy. Your beef is with CONGRESS, the legislative body.
BlueCaliDem
Jan 2015
#31
The only thing we'll get from Hillary is slightly-more-cleverly-disguised trickle-down economics.
winter is coming
Jan 2015
#32
I've just given you proof that SoS Clinton IS setting the tone. Missed that part?
BlueCaliDem
Jan 2015
#34
I read it. It's more of the usual "we'll give businesses incentives" crapola
winter is coming
Jan 2015
#35
Translate: I DON'T CARE what you post because I've made up my mind and NOTHING will change it. eom
BlueCaliDem
Jan 2015
#62
Because DUers know you, Manny, and we know that you're not interested in any accomplishments
BlueCaliDem
Jan 2015
#24
So give 3 accomplishments. Don't make this about Manny. This is about Hillary. n/t
benz380
Jan 2015
#61
What's best for America and what's best for Hillary Clinton are not the same.
blkmusclmachine
Jan 2015
#11
I never said anything about Clinton other than I disagree with her policy stances
davidpdx
Jan 2015
#60
You can only hear crickets chiriping when the logical response to the "anyone but Hillary" is
libdem4life
Jan 2015
#19
Exactly. But for some DUers, it's "about principle" (and more opportunity to be perpetually outraged
BlueCaliDem
Jan 2015
#30
I missed the News release where a "Clintonite" announced Hillary had won the nomination.
Agnosticsherbet
Feb 2015
#69