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Liberal_Stalwart71

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33. Yes, yes!! That's right! That's what I've been trying to explain, but perhaps not as clearly as you
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 10:47 PM
Oct 2013

have here. But there are some in this thread who have rudely approached me who FALSELY claim that I know none of what I speak, though I have been a federal employee now for nearly 20 years! Members of Congress, the president have pretty much always received additional perks beyond what other civil servants receive.

I don't care what anyone on this thread says. I don't care how rude they are to me. I don't care what names they call me or how much they attack me. I know what I'm talking about.

Congress, the president, and members of the United States Supreme Court ARE NOT exempt from the requirements of the Affordable Care Act. They must participate in the healthcare exchanges. Period. End of story.

Now, admittedly, there have been attempts to do away with that requirement: The Vitter Amendment, Grassley Amendment, and other alterations and other rules to make the law clearer. There have also been attempts to exempt congressional staff, since many would not qualify for some of the subsidies offered under Obamacare, since they make too much. That is understandable. Even I sympathize with their plight.

However, I will maintain the stance that I have taken and will not back down no matter how much I am attacked in this thread.

I appreciate those who have approached this conversation respectfully and without being combative and condescending, and I thank those people and I thank you.

Why is Congress exempt from ACA [View all] FLyellowdog Oct 2013 OP
That and the 27th Amendment jberryhill Oct 2013 #1
The 27th is what they are talking about. FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #2
Changing their insurance would be a change in compensation jberryhill Oct 2013 #3
True...and one is a beloved relative. FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #4
They had government sponsored health insurance before ACA, the same as all Federal Employees. Arneoker Oct 2013 #5
Thanks. I think I'm getting the hang of it. *sigh* FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #9
Tell em Republicans did not want to be covered by ACA, and Obama caved. Hoyt Oct 2013 #6
Exactly! procon Oct 2013 #7
I agree.nt FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #8
Congress, the President are NOT exempt from the ACA!! It's a lie!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #10
OP: Please see my post #10. It is absolutely NOT true that the President, Congress is exempt!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #11
Yes, I know it's not true, FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #12
Congress is exempt only to the same degree that I am exempt. JayhawkSD Oct 2013 #13
Thanks. nt FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #14
CONGRESS IS NOT EXEMPT!! This is a lie that Republicans keep repeating!!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #16
Don't shout at me. JayhawkSD Oct 2013 #17
Not shouting at you. I'm trying to make this point clear because people keep repeating the falsehood Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #21
Read what I said and try to understand English. JayhawkSD Oct 2013 #35
No!! They are not covered by employer-provided insurance unless by employer-based, Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #37
From NPR discussion JayhawkSD Oct 2013 #43
This is no different than what I've been arguing. Yes, they get subsidies from the govern Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #44
From Healthcare.gov JayhawkSD Oct 2013 #45
My responses after yours... Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #48
But Congress is required to go thru ACA now. FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #46
Congress is not exempt. They have to buy from the exchanges. SunSeeker Oct 2013 #15
THIS! Drahthaardogs Oct 2013 #18
The reason why they should go through the exchanges is because they originally had their health Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #22
My husband was a federal employee and we paid LOTS for our health coverage. FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #25
Yes, yes!! That's right! That's what I've been trying to explain, but perhaps not as clearly as you Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #33
you do not know what the hell you are talking about Drahthaardogs Oct 2013 #29
Making shit up? I fucking work for the federal government. I know what the hell I'm talking about. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #30
You know nothing... Drahthaardogs Oct 2013 #39
They receive subsidies to pay for their healthcare, just like I do as a federal employee. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #40
Bullshit. You said it was ALL paid for by the taxpayer. Drahthaardogs Oct 2013 #41
Subsidy = Federal government = taxpayer. Comprehende? IGNORE!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #42
Thank you. There was that dumb RW email about how we have to stop Congress Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #34
FINALLY, I think you've helped me. FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #19
Yes, you are right. Congressional staff are being unfairly treated. They can go through the exchange Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #23
THIS^2!!!! apnu Oct 2013 #36
They aren't exempt!!! Hippo_Tron Oct 2013 #20
Hey LS, like you I get FEHB (in my case because I am a federal retiree) Arneoker Oct 2013 #24
You are exactly correct. And those people in this thread who are attacking me need to get their shit Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #31
I forgot to answer your question, but yes, I'm almost 100% sure that most Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #38
Congress exempts themselves from everything but lots of taxpayer-paid perks. nt valerief Oct 2013 #26
Essentially correct, elleng Oct 2013 #27
15 Myths The Media Should Ignore During Obamacare Implementation Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #28
Thank God for Media Matters. I posted this upthread, so thank you! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #32
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