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13. Everything I have read does not support

Sat Apr 6, 2013, 06:28 PM

Apr 2013

these claims you have made .

"Yes ... and it will even under CCPI ... just at a reduced rate; a rate that economist indicate more closely relates to actual household spending.

Yes ... google. Look up Carney's CCPI statement during the debt ceiling negotiations ... google any administration statement regarding CCPI."

I have seen no proof that either of those are true

Found it
http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/cepr-blog/the-chained-cpi-is-a-bad-deal-for-kids-and-low-income-working-age-adults-too

And once again, I will say it is a disgrace that a "Democratic" President offers SS up in a phony debt crisis.

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Can we get honest here ... [View all] 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 OP

Thank you for the courage in saying what so many know is true graham4anything Apr 2013 #1

Yep. Hoyt Apr 2013 #2

You are being too reasonable... dkf Apr 2013 #3

Unfair criticism Trajan Apr 2013 #4

Really? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #7

Fine, be honest. How does SS contribute to the "debt crisis"? Autumn Apr 2013 #5

It doesn't ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #9

Everything I have read does not support Autumn Apr 2013 #13

Again ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #20

You may trust the administration on this, I don't. Here's a gentle reminder from Obama in 2008 Autumn Apr 2013 #22

That is the Man I voted for ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #25

"No one knows what the CCPI formula will look like" muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #82

It is exactly ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #87

"actual household spending"? Are you counting health care costs for seniors? CTyankee Apr 2013 #101

I am against chained CPI...I think it is a rotten idea alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #6

I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #12

People on the cusp will be impacted. tblue Apr 2013 #8

Tell me ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #14

Good point. rucky Apr 2013 #73

Please cite proof for your statement. enlightenment Apr 2013 #10

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #17

Okay - enlightenment Apr 2013 #21

Everything posted on this subject ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #26

Come on, now! enlightenment Apr 2013 #31

And ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #41

I never said I wasn't - enlightenment Apr 2013 #56

Does not matter, the reasons for the outcry.... busterbrown Apr 2013 #11

Tell me ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #18

SS has NOTHING to do with the DEFICIT. Closing "loopholes" to increase effective tax rates does. Vincardog Apr 2013 #28

Except ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #37

The FACT that SS can't have any effect by LAW does matter. There is no DEBATE about facts, Vincardog Apr 2013 #40

If you ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #42

WTF does that have anything to do with REALITY? If you and a friend are planning dinner and Vincardog Apr 2013 #45

I'm sorry you missed the relevance ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #50

I'm sorry you missed the relevance … When one party refuses to deal with objective REALITY Vincardog Apr 2013 #57

Then please explain ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #60

Why there are on-going debates and very little governing? Because while we watch the "Debates" Vincardog Apr 2013 #62

You are absolutely correct. n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #116

Who Knows....? busterbrown Apr 2013 #30

Agreed ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #39

Hey, I've paid into it for a lot of years. I won't be exempted from it. Bake Apr 2013 #15

Fine ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #19

And I voted in 2010. For DEMOCRATS. Bake Apr 2013 #23

With all due respect ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #29

Absolutely Bake Apr 2013 #32

I completely agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #35

I've paid for it for years too, since I was 13 BainsBane Apr 2015 #125

I suspect you will ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #127

What are the details of these exemptions? You seem to be making assertions that are impossible. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #16

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #24

No, the statement from the WH said 'the most vulerable' which is the opposite of specified groups. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #36

Okay n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #44

So no evidence, as expected. Because you are talking out your ear. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #52

No ... just tired of arguing ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #59

You have not made any points, and now you are calling names in an attempt to cover your lack of Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #68

Are you saying the President's proposal wouldn't cut benefits for regular folks? limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #27

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #33

But that is not what you were ranting about in the OP. Your own words: Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #38

Smells like horse shit to me Autumn Apr 2013 #43

Okay n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #47

Okay n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #46

Bullshit. GeorgeGist Apr 2013 #34

Okay n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #48

doubtful grantcart Apr 2013 #49

Please go on ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #54

I found the following DU post helpful: femmocrat Apr 2013 #51

I saw the post ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #61

Yeah, you just don't give a shit. Marr Apr 2013 #71

Then why waste your time responding to me? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #90

Thanks. elleng Apr 2013 #53

It's in a person's interest to want what they feel they deserve. I don't know anyone who doesn't southernyankeebelle Apr 2013 #55

Agreed n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #63

... abelenkpe Apr 2013 #77

What a strange post Doctor_J Apr 2013 #58

+1000 abelenkpe Apr 2013 #76

Complete bullshit. bowens43 Apr 2013 #64

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #65

We care about you too daybranch Apr 2013 #66

Drip, drip, drip ... blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #67

And tied to a tax increase for the rich treestar Apr 2013 #69

Whatever they're paying you, it's too much. Marr Apr 2013 #70

I agree Skittles Apr 2013 #74

I'm not getting paid ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #89

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ L0oniX Apr 2013 #105

"IMPEACHMENT!!111" Cha Apr 2013 #72

75 responses and I'm only the 8th Rec Hekate Apr 2013 #75

Let's see ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #91

Don't feel like the Lone Ranger there... Hekate Apr 2013 #95

The crazy thing is that no absolute specifics have been outlined. StrongBad Apr 2013 #123

I'd accept Chained CPI in a heart-beat in exchange for Universal Pre-K (day-care). nt patrice Apr 2013 #78

^And, no, I don't have any grandkids.^ patrice Apr 2013 #80

yes, let's make the elderly and disabled suffer more. cali Apr 2013 #84

We're bargaining with Boner though, not someone who would vote for treestar Apr 2013 #102

I'm finding it quite interesting that my Rep. Senators are against Chained CPI. At this point, I'm patrice Apr 2013 #79

canard SwampG8r Apr 2013 #81

what repulsive bullshit. cali Apr 2013 #83

+10000 Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #85

Answer "Yes" or "No" ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #92

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ L0oniX Apr 2013 #104

Let me see if I get this straight. In order to protect the poor, we can't Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #86

That is not what I have said ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #93

Righhht... Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #97

Now read the rest of what I wrote ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #98

Yes I did, and a more horrendous bunch of BS I havent seen. It's rather Freeper. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #99

Sorry I didn't see this thread sooner. Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #88

By whom? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #94

The usual suspects here Hekate Apr 2013 #96

If you don't like the policy (and I'm not really going to argue in favor of it either), then fine Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2013 #100

Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #106

I'm listening to you, and I appreciate your thoughtfulness appacom Apr 2013 #107

Watch Heads Explode ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #111

"Oh yeah" what? Tell us *exactly* what's different. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #117

"self-interested folks, hiding behind the elderly, the poor" Sociopath honesty? L0oniX Apr 2013 #103

Forget the fucking self-interest for a second, please. Orsino Apr 2013 #108

In the 60's, I listened to Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #109

I lived it ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #110

You didn't hear people saying that Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #112

No, I didn't ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #113

Must have lived in a very Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #114

I'm sad to see this post from you Marrah_G Apr 2013 #115

Sorry to disappoint ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #120

Oh bullshit MFrohike Apr 2013 #118

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #121

Damn MFrohike Apr 2013 #124

Many seniors vote for Republicans and against their best interests. Maybe those seniors will finally Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #119

Hopefully n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #122

You may believe it, but that doesn't make it honest.... daleanime Apr 2015 #126