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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Can we get honest here ... [View all]1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)7. Really? ...
You have heard MANY times about Chained CPI without hearing any references to 'the most vulnerable groups will be exempted' ?
From whom? Was it the Administration or pundits? The Administration has been pretty consistent on this ... and so has the media. The Administration keeps talking about the exemted classes and the media keeps neglecting to mention it.
Even so .... Social Security is NOT really a problem, and there are other solutions other than reducing the amount of SSI recipients will receive in so called Cost Of Living increases ....
I agree ... SS is not a problem and there are other adjustments that could be made to shore it up. But I also recognize that there is more at play here ... namely, the 2014 elections. The vast majority of the electorate poll as the gop being unwilling to compromise. Here, going into the 2014 cycle, is another insistence of President Obama "appearing" to be willing to bend against his base and the gop saying "No."
Because of the gerrymandering following 2010, the only way to pick up seats is to get indppendent voters to mexpress their disgust and vote Democrat, or get gop voters to stay home. President Obama and Democrats can't accomplish the latter, but can affect the former by being the "reasonable" (read; willing to compromise) folks in the room.
If we can do this it is bound to translate into Democratic seats (more progressive seats) in 2014 ... assuming, of course, the progressives don't wish to ignore 2010 and "teach the party a lesson" by sitting home.
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You may trust the administration on this, I don't. Here's a gentle reminder from Obama in 2008
Autumn
Apr 2013
#22
SS has NOTHING to do with the DEFICIT. Closing "loopholes" to increase effective tax rates does.
Vincardog
Apr 2013
#28
The FACT that SS can't have any effect by LAW does matter. There is no DEBATE about facts,
Vincardog
Apr 2013
#40
WTF does that have anything to do with REALITY? If you and a friend are planning dinner and
Vincardog
Apr 2013
#45
I'm sorry you missed the relevance … When one party refuses to deal with objective REALITY
Vincardog
Apr 2013
#57
Why there are on-going debates and very little governing? Because while we watch the "Debates"
Vincardog
Apr 2013
#62
What are the details of these exemptions? You seem to be making assertions that are impossible.
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#16
No, the statement from the WH said 'the most vulerable' which is the opposite of specified groups.
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#36
You have not made any points, and now you are calling names in an attempt to cover your lack of
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#68
Are you saying the President's proposal wouldn't cut benefits for regular folks?
limpyhobbler
Apr 2013
#27
It's in a person's interest to want what they feel they deserve. I don't know anyone who doesn't
southernyankeebelle
Apr 2013
#55
I'd accept Chained CPI in a heart-beat in exchange for Universal Pre-K (day-care). nt
patrice
Apr 2013
#78
I'm finding it quite interesting that my Rep. Senators are against Chained CPI. At this point, I'm
patrice
Apr 2013
#79
Yes I did, and a more horrendous bunch of BS I havent seen. It's rather Freeper.
Katashi_itto
Apr 2013
#99
If you don't like the policy (and I'm not really going to argue in favor of it either), then fine
Proud Liberal Dem
Apr 2013
#100
"self-interested folks, hiding behind the elderly, the poor" Sociopath honesty?
L0oniX
Apr 2013
#103
Many seniors vote for Republicans and against their best interests. Maybe those seniors will finally
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2013
#119