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In reply to the discussion: Why President Obama isn't caving [View all]newfie11
(8,159 posts)32. But SS has nothing to do with the deficit nt
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"That doesn’t mean Obama won’t eventually compromise ..." Agreed. It doesn't mean that at all.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#2
He is Wall Steet! All his financial guys came from there, and will go back there when their time is
Dustlawyer
Dec 2012
#103
That's *your* interpretation: caving. It's also the Purist-Ideologues' claim, but not
BlueCaliDem
Dec 2012
#130
Let's remember and be clear: if we do NOTHING, there will be a 22% CUT in 2035. Period.
BlueCaliDem
Dec 2012
#132
I think you're peeing into the wind. Almost eveyone thinks he's caving and they should voice it
xtraxritical
Dec 2012
#88
You're not making any difference and even more, are part of the problem. Me thinks troll.
xtraxritical
Dec 2012
#124
Yup. Some would say that. Over and over again. Even though the cuts have yet to happen, and ...
11 Bravo
Dec 2012
#8
Manny ... Is Obama going to cave and make a deal which cuts SS by the end of the year?" Yes / No.
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#109
Really? There Are Currently Negotiatons Discussing SS Cuts? I Must Have Missed That, Please Provide
Skraxx
Dec 2012
#116
If I'm willing to let you make me an offer for my mint condition special edition babe ruth
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#65
Manny ... Is Obama going to cave and make a deal which cuts SS by the end of the year?" Yes / No.
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#100
Manny ... Is Obama going to cave and make a deal which cuts SS by the end of the year?" Yes / No.
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#108
If anyone touches SS, be they Dem or Rep, that party will not win an election for decades.
xtraxritical
Dec 2012
#92
Or, he's daring them to say what the GOP does not really want to say out loud.
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#101
If I had a dollar for all the "wrong" prognostications by that one, I could fix the deficit.
Tarheel_Dem
Dec 2012
#54
Well, "Emo Progs" like me, Bernie Sanders, the Congressional Progressive
MannyGoldstein
Dec 2012
#74
So Obama stands his ground, we go over the cliff, and you still claim he caved.
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#102
He's not caving because he won and can't run again. He owes the repubs nothing.
craigmatic
Dec 2012
#5
I don't accept that excuse. SS above all things should be non-negotiable. Voluntarily offering it up
MotherPetrie
Dec 2012
#22
Just saying that there are going to be some concessions made that we aren't all going to be happy w/
Proud Liberal Dem
Dec 2012
#25
The "fiscal cliff" is a completely GOP fabricated "crisis". So what if nothing is done,
xtraxritical
Dec 2012
#93
I do not except that excuse either. Social Security is not and never was a part of the debt or the
RC
Dec 2012
#80
President Obama has worked hard to meet Republicans halfway (maybe even more)
Proud Liberal Dem
Dec 2012
#15
I don't think that they will- until they are so far in the minority that they don't even matter
Proud Liberal Dem
Dec 2012
#81
The President has stated that Social Security is in NO WAY responsible for the Deficit,
bvar22
Dec 2012
#139
My understanding is HR4310 was just passed last week, which doesn't cut anything.....
dmosh42
Dec 2012
#34
Sorry, cutting old folks safety net, while saving Big War, is a cave, IMHO.
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
#37
YES, he is offering up cuts to social security to the republicans in the negotiations,
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
#96
Where Are These Cuts? They've Happened? Or They Are Part of Some Deal? Please, Show Them To Me
Skraxx
Dec 2012
#97
They are on the table, they are the goal. The other goal is defending the Big War budget....
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
#68
He Is? Really? Pray Tell, I Must Have Missed Some Deal That Was Made, Please Fill Me In On All The
Skraxx
Dec 2012
#99
They are redefining the meaning of "cave" now that they realize that Obama is not going
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#110
And, if I allow you to make a bid for my babe ruth rookie card, clearly I want to give it to you.
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#115
The OP is "Obama isn't caving". The OP is not talking about a final deal, but the process.
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
#121