2016 Postmortem

Exilednight

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36. How did Obama manage to win those states? Racism is far more problematic than sexism.

Sun Dec 4, 2016, 11:40 AM

Dec 2016

Before you accuse me of downplaying sexism, look at the facts.

I don't see nightly news reports of women being killed and beaten just for being women. There are no neo-anti-women groups on the watch list of Southern Poverty Law Center, the DoJ watch list or the FBI watch list. I haven't seen any individual or group calling for the mass extermination or removal of women from the US.

Looking at it objectively, Obama had a much higher mountain to climb, yet he had no problem making it.

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Hostility to women one of strongest predictors of Trump vote. [View all] Squinch Dec 2016 OP

The justifications are usually just a matter of semantics Nwgirl503 Dec 2016 #1

Welcome to DU! And yes, we put every other word on it but the one that actually describes it. Squinch Dec 2016 #2

Thanks! Nwgirl503 Dec 2016 #5

I like the thing going around of people pledging to step in when they see people Squinch Dec 2016 #8

Absolutely! Nwgirl503 Dec 2016 #18

Exactly. Shocking that a majority of white women treestar Dec 2016 #3

Culture Bear Creek Dec 2016 #10

Exactly I believe I read somewhere treestar Dec 2016 #19

"THEY deserve help." BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #27

This is bad Bear Creek Dec 2016 #31

Mostly it is abortion and the USSC. duffyduff Dec 2016 #53

That is Bear Creek Dec 2016 #54

But it is about power from a position of inferiority. duffyduff Dec 2016 #55

OR, they are just going to vote like their man because they never took the time to Squinch Dec 2016 #12

This white woman has known all my life that many other women are misogynists. yardwork Dec 2016 #13

We are, at times, our own worst enemy mcar Dec 2016 #41

It's called "internalized misogyny" and, like internalized racism, whathehell Dec 2016 #51

This white woman knows that, too. hamsterjill Dec 2016 #70

Well said! n/t DemonGoddess Dec 2016 #74

Yes some women are mysogynists True_Blue Dec 2016 #76

One of the several frustrating things about being a feminist. Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #22

Not really...Ever heard of Internalized misogyny? whathehell Dec 2016 #35

It's kind of a "Stockholm Syndrome" where they identify with their captors (the powerful) SharonAnn Dec 2016 #43

I am a white woman NastyRiffraff Dec 2016 #45

I am a white woman too treestar Dec 2016 #58

Which is one of the reasons I distrust the election results. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #77

Because they want. to. be. TOLD. They *like* it nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #60

We mustn't underestimate internalized oppression. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #61

Trump catered to people's lowest denominations! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #4

I agree. His campaign was focused on that alone. yardwork Dec 2016 #48

Yes Bear Creek Dec 2016 #6

I think what they need to do is keep their powder dry till the first civil or human rights violation Squinch Dec 2016 #14

They are ready at the gate Bear Creek Dec 2016 #29

Yes. I agree. My only hope at this point is that the Democrats in office somehow hold the line Squinch Dec 2016 #32

Hope yes Bear Creek Dec 2016 #42

I agree with that treestar Dec 2016 #21

Well said. (nt) Paladin Dec 2016 #7

Dear Women of America, why do we make less and pay more? mountain grammy Dec 2016 #9

Yep. But grammy, I am encouraged by a conversation I had with my 25 year old niece. Squinch Dec 2016 #15

My 5 granddaughters too mountain grammy Dec 2016 #20

Did you see this article? It made me feel a little hopeful. Squinch Dec 2016 #24

Thanks Squinch. There are some soothing thoughts there. mountain grammy Dec 2016 #66

Hey! I'll be there too! Squinch Dec 2016 #67

All right! mountain grammy Dec 2016 #68

I'll do the same. Squinch Dec 2016 #69

The posts that sink are often the ones we agree on. Lucky Luciano Dec 2016 #11

Its more than that. The hatred of women is a strong political force. We are having a lot of Squinch Dec 2016 #16

They aren't all sexists or racists. dawg Dec 2016 #17

I drive a gas-burning car instead of an electric one. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #25

You're not a climate change denier. dawg Dec 2016 #30

I agree. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #34

But the numbers are showing that those rust belt voters who were most concerned with the economy Squinch Dec 2016 #33

I used to be anti-abortion in high school. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #40

And if you were anti-abortion now, you wouldn't be someone whose vote it was logical for Squinch Dec 2016 #44

I think we're basically in agreement. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #46

Basically yes. But in the end your old sociology teacher was exactly right. She just Squinch Dec 2016 #47

Like I mentioned earlier, her position made me more entrenched. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #50

I think it means you simply rationalize any actions of yours which are counter LanternWaste Dec 2016 #80

Little money takes many options off the table. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #86

If they're cool with it, they are it. Nt gollygee Dec 2016 #63

Agree matelize Dec 2016 #23

Welcome to DU! And I agree. I was so frustrated by all the people who blindly bought into Squinch Dec 2016 #26

K & R ......for visibility..nt Wounded Bear Dec 2016 #28

How did Obama manage to win those states? Racism is far more problematic than sexism. Exilednight Dec 2016 #36

There wouldn't be treestar Dec 2016 #62

Spousal is an under reported crime. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #65

wow. please get educated. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #73

You supply no fact, merely inference and editorial. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #81

Point by point Exilednight Dec 2016 #85

Read "Hillbilly Elegy" MissKat Dec 2016 #37

And you can spot them in threads right BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #38

It would be interesting to know how many of... 3catwoman3 Dec 2016 #39

K&R nt NCTraveler Dec 2016 #49

Sexism may even be stronger here than racism or xenophobia. duffyduff Dec 2016 #52

I voted for Bernie in the primary but whathehell Dec 2016 #56

I feel the same way. No outreach would have changed their minds. yardwork Dec 2016 #78

Their upbringing makes it all but impossible to shed the mindset. duffyduff Dec 2016 #79

K&R betsuni Dec 2016 #57

K & R. and THANK YOU!!!! nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #59

And thank YOU!!!! Squinch Dec 2016 #64

We stand together or fall together. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #71

ties into this thread also JI7 Dec 2016 #72

That's so true. I never thought about Palin that way in comparison to Trump. Zing Zing Zingbah Dec 2016 #84

K&R! DemonGoddess Dec 2016 #75

'We need to look for our gains among the people who stayed home. ' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #82

#notall Orsino Dec 2016 #83