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Dems to Win

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39. We have a racial divide to heal within Democrats
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 11:32 PM
Dec 2016

As a white person and Bernie supporter, this election season rubbed my feelings raw. One reason Bernie didn't get a hearing from black voters across the South was the press conference held by the Congressional Black Caucus PAC which mischaracterized Bernie as a 'new friend' of civil rights. It was fine for them to endorse Hillary, but that was quite a slap to a man with a 20-year 100% record from the NAACP.

As primary season continued, I was shocked and bewildered that black activists were gleeful to see white progs get their butt slapped, as their support for Hillary was crucial in helping her to victory. I have no problem with them supporting HRC, but I don't understand why white progressives had become the enemy they were happy to see go down, a few years after we had lined up beside black voters to elect President Obama.

I was called white privileged for supporting Bernie, our issues such as relieving college students of crushing debt were dismissed as mere 'white people's problems,' black authors wrote articles about the 'white entitlement' of BernieBros, and if any white person complained about the broad brush stereotyping, it was mocked as evidence of our 'white fragility.'

Once Hillary was the nominee, there were endless comments and articles demanding that Bernie supporters and all people of good will MUST go to the polls and vote for Hillary, the only one who could beat Trump, because a Trump presidency would be so bad for POC. Anyone hesitant to do so could only be awash in privilege, and is too selfish to think of others who would suffer under Trump.

Ugly personal confession time: I would often read these pleas and think to myself, "My concerns are mere white people's problems, but you expect me to go to the polls and vote for your concerns? How's that supposed to work....."

Of course, I'm an adult and my commitment to civil rights is irreversible, so I did Trudge Up That Hill. But, though I've long been a yellow-dog Democrat, my tail wasn't wagging. And not quite enough people in enough crucial states went to the polls and did their duty, and the Democrats lost.

The opponent was so clearly awful, Democrats should have won by 20 points. This is a disaster.

If white people believe that Democrats want them to sit in the back of the bus and contemplate their white privilege, we are going to have a hard time getting enough votes to win.

There was an article in The American Prospect shortly before the election that really gave me pause.

What’s Millennials’ Support for Jill Stein and Gary Johnson All About?

HAROLD MEYERSON OCTOBER 6, 2016
White skin privilege, that’s what.


"On the afternoon of the opening session of this summer’s Democratic Convention, I was walking into the convention arena while hundreds of young demonstrators, many carrying signs backing Green Party candidate Jill Stein, shouted and occasionally hurled invectives at those entering the hall—an odd tactic, I thought, since more than 40 percent of the delegates entering the building were Bernie Sanders’s. The friend I was walking in with—a Latino legislator from California—cast a cold eye on the demonstrators and noted, “They’re all white.”

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A group of young, passionate Americans airing their grievances and anger and pain, and their opinions are immediately dismissed completely because of the color of their skin. By a legislator, no less.

No similar incident with a legislator dismissing a crowd because "They're all black" would ever be reported by Harold Meyerson as a reasonable intro to a piece in a liberal magazine.

I understand that white privilege is a thing. My heart aches for Sandra Bland. She was me, 30 years ago, in a rental car on her way to her new job in a new town. No asshole racist cop ever made a U-turn to get behind me and provoke a confrontation that ended in her tragic, lonely death. The entire justice system is disproportionately biased against people of color, and we need to thoroughly address it.

It's also true that white skin is not a 100% protection against police brutality and unfairness. There are whites who've been killed by police in unjust ways. I have a family member who is an ex-con, and the police will go to great lengths to run him out of the small heartland town he lives in. They've unfairly extorted thousands of dollars out of my father (bro can't possibly pay the unreasonable fines), and he's paid up, to keep him out of jail. Police brutality and corruption is a problem that affects all of us, and we can work on the entire, big problem while acknowledging racial disparities, but not portraying the entire issue solely as POC problems.

The childhood poverty rate in the US is shameful. The POC childhood rate is twice that of whites, which is horrific. Will I be satisfied if/when the US brings the POC childhood poverty rate down to equal that of whites? No I will not, not until they are all equal at 0% poverty rate.

I voted for Jesse Jackson. I still believe in the Rainbow Coalition: Some of us came over on the Mayflower, some on slave ships, some flew on jets, but we're all in the same boat now. (paraphrase of one of Jesse's campaign riffs) I feel we need to recapture that spirit.
Perhaps, as you said, it requires abandoning attempts at blaming some Democrats, and candidates, guillaumeb Dec 2016 #1
Think carefully about who you want to target for votes bravenak Dec 2016 #2
I think this is absolutely correct. nt marybourg Dec 2016 #3
I think we need more outreach to those that did not vote... Raster Dec 2016 #4
Yep. We need to be smart, not sit around being sadface bravenak Dec 2016 #6
A combination of rage, defiant hope, and creativity would serve us well right now. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #18
I think tapping into the "rage" of new and uninformed voters backfired this time, and I'm not sure bettyellen Dec 2016 #37
We would have done worse running an "everything is fine" campaign. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #42
Hillary didn't lay a hand on Sanders. Some surrogate said he was "unfit" based on his limited bettyellen Dec 2016 #49
He didn't put down Planned Parenthood so much as disagree with its choice to intervene in the race Ken Burch Dec 2016 #59
He called PP a member of the establishment. boston bean Dec 2016 #61
He criticized PP in the heat of the campaign. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #62
He slimed PP, a nice dog whistle for the WWC voter I wonder? bettyellen Dec 2016 #92
No dog whistle at all. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #94
Insulting PP was a cheap shot at women's expense, period. Showed his commitment quite clearly. bettyellen Dec 2016 #96
The difference was Bernie's support was votes and Hillary's support was actions which PP articulated seaglass Dec 2016 #99
Yes NCTraveler Dec 2016 #24
Are you asking what would re-establish trust between DU members? n/t seaglass Dec 2016 #5
As a start, yes. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #7
I was mostly away from DU for a few months prior to the election. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #47
Yes, deviance from the approved narrative is being harshly punished. appal_jack Dec 2016 #50
Creative story, fella! LanternWaste Dec 2016 #69
I agree... Joe941 Dec 2016 #78
Me, too. mnhtnbb Dec 2016 #93
Stop thinking of the party as a club. It's not - it's a vehicle for imposing governance philosophy. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2016 #8
We don't actually bar gun owning white guys as it is. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #11
Stop bashing hillary. boston bean Dec 2016 #9
Is there any form of critique of Hillary's campaign you could accept as legitimate? Ken Burch Dec 2016 #12
Yes, cease saying she is corrupt wallstreet establishment candidate. boston bean Dec 2016 #15
OK. But would you at least agree that she probably shouldn't run again? Ken Burch Dec 2016 #16
She won't run again. boston bean Dec 2016 #20
Thanks for the response. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #22
Bernie for 2020! Joe941 Dec 2016 #79
There is no more value in bashing Hillary than there is Dukakis. And for the same reason. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2016 #31
Oh look, it's another jim jones radical. grossproffit Dec 2016 #34
Yup, that's me. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2016 #46
Well, the rules there prohibited supporting Hillary and the rules here require it. So who were you bettyellen Dec 2016 #51
You don't understand the rules of either place. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2016 #88
JPR let's you say c*nt and n@&$@r but not support the Dem candidate. bettyellen Dec 2016 #91
They are still fighting the primaries over there and screaming how they were rigged against Bernie. LonePirate Dec 2016 #57
Yup La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #71
Some real self-criticism. What do we get instead? Comey! Russia! Sexism! closeupready Dec 2016 #10
You can't dismiss those things.. JHan Dec 2016 #65
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I can't recall much dishonesty from her during campaigning.. JHan Dec 2016 #83
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You can't be for real. JHan Dec 2016 #86
Okay, done with you. Bye! closeupready Dec 2016 #87
"Bernie Bros"! "Bernie stayed in too long!" "He shouldn't've shown up her weaknesses!" JudyM Dec 2016 #100
PLAY IT FORWARD..nt asuhornets Dec 2016 #13
I couldn't agree more with you. One thing that might help mtnsnake Dec 2016 #14
A campaign that doesn't just talk about poverty(as this one did, to its credit)... Ken Burch Dec 2016 #17
Yeah, the sentence where you put the emphasis on the word "THEY" is vital mtnsnake Dec 2016 #28
Ultimately, it's about reconnecting the poor to those of us who AREN'T in the same condition. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #32
You betcha, and there is one word that pretty much sums up that emotion mtnsnake Dec 2016 #36
Thank you for this post ........ Yes there are some exceptions ( I think excptions can be Kathy M Dec 2016 #25
The point you touched upon concerning heroin is worth looking into mtnsnake Dec 2016 #27
Agree .... its the heroin.... Kathy M Dec 2016 #29
Yes and vice-versa. TrekLuver Dec 2016 #30
Remember It's The Economy, Stupid! Wolf Frankula Dec 2016 #19
I immediately heard these lines go through my head in response to your first paragraph: Ken Burch Dec 2016 #21
agree with the above Kathy M Dec 2016 #26
We promote the party platform. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #23
I was saying that throughout the fall campaign, and had been for years before that. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #33
Drain the swamp? NCTraveler Dec 2016 #35
Why are you equating what I posted there with Trumpism? Ken Burch Dec 2016 #44
I was going by your own words. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #67
I don't even THINK the DNC, the DSCC, or the DCCC are "swamps". Ken Burch Dec 2016 #97
Mostly agree. We also need to stop the BS rhetoric that our loss was Sanders/his supporters' fault. JudyM Dec 2016 #101
Agree. For most of them... NCTraveler Dec 2016 #104
Divisions in the party are good, if you want a big change. jake335544 Dec 2016 #38
We need to find a way to have debate without toxicity, though. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #45
We have a racial divide to heal within Democrats Dems to Win Dec 2016 #39
So the problem is black people were mean to Bernie BainsBane Dec 2016 #41
"Whats Millennials Support for Jill Stein and Gary Johnson All About?" BzaDem Dec 2016 #64
So true La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #74
Aww, black leaders and black activists were mean La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #73
If people stopped fighting the primary BainsBane Dec 2016 #40
That's not my goal at all. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #43
Sure seems like it has been your goal for days La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #75
Never has been. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #95
Many are. BainsBane Dec 2016 #102
You sound like you're much more interested in holding grudges than winning future elections. nt mtnsnake Dec 2016 #98
If winning elections is the goal BainsBane Dec 2016 #103
FFS DemonGoddess Dec 2016 #48
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So did Bernie DemonGoddess Dec 2016 #53
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So how is the Canadian PM doing? CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #54
Yep. I'm sick of this shit, it's a ploy. They never appreciated the fact she deserved their support bettyellen Dec 2016 #55
I wasn't saying it was all her fault. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #63
Please try. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #77
I have a few ideas lapfog_1 Dec 2016 #58
The whole country has turned into tribes marlakay Dec 2016 #60
More outreach to rural Dems in purple states (like Obama did), and engage the disengaged. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #66
A common enemy (Trump), time and and the awareness of what is coming. jalan48 Dec 2016 #68
Maybe if some people stopped using right wing La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #70
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... La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #76
Carefully worded LOL betsuni Dec 2016 #80
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Actually, there is almost no one on DU that I actually mistrust DFW Dec 2016 #84
I think that is one of the best posts on this thread mtnsnake Dec 2016 #89
I have no illusions DFW Dec 2016 #90
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