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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: The case against Hillary [View all]onehandle
(51,122 posts)2. She's being cautious. She supported Hillary in 2008 and wants her to run again.
She said so yesterday on Hardball.
She just doesn't want Hillary, or her supporters to get cocky.
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hey, joan...a 21st century New Deal from Hillary would mean more jobs outsourced. nt
antigop
Dec 2012
#5
If there is a better way to destroy what is left of the middle-class in this country, I don't
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#51
many will support simply it because they want a female prez soooo badly. Believe it. n/t
antigop
Dec 2012
#54
And ironically, some gender-influenced supporters will call non-supporters "sexists".
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#56
She's being cautious. She supported Hillary in 2008 and wants her to run again.
onehandle
Dec 2012
#2
Great point!! She says that Hillary shouldn't have this sense of entitlement, then she turns around
Liberal_Stalwart71
Dec 2012
#8
I agree with Joan, but you can't say that around DU, it seems. I like Hillary and will vote
Liberal_Stalwart71
Dec 2012
#6
I agree with you. I will support Hillary if she is the nominee, but she may not be my top choice.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Dec 2012
#38
"The activist national security wing of the Democratic Party seems high on a Hillary run"
leveymg
Dec 2012
#7
Hillary will run, and she will win. and I will be on her side this time because she has earned it.
MjolnirTime
Dec 2012
#9
She will not have "earned it" until she gets through the primaries. The people will decide.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Dec 2012
#94
I agree with you on the historic nature, but there are still many firsts that haven't happened
davidpdx
Dec 2012
#47
Agreed! There are pictures on the net of her in a sari talking to Tata, the outsourcing company!
LongTomH
Dec 2012
#55
The Republicans only pretended to like Hillary in 2008 because they wanted to keep the discord
Liberal_Stalwart71
Dec 2012
#96
All these dismissive terms are tiresome...inevitability...entitlement...too old
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#25
What has any political personage earned? I think it's widely called political power..and without it
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#58
ah, yes...people who didn't support her were "sexists". A 2016 PRIMARY, not a coronation. n/t
antigop
Dec 2012
#60
No, just the ones who called her names, made fun of her, and generally made asses of themselves
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#61
my, my, struck a nerve, did I? There will be a PRIMARY in 2016, not a coronation. n/t
antigop
Dec 2012
#68
Uh, no...not a nerve, just a habit I have of often using more than 10-12 words to say on a subject,
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#102
and there it is again.. the same meme..."there are no other qualified Democrats" n/t
antigop
Dec 2012
#107
For crying out loud, you totally missed the point. Obama hasn't started his second term yet
antigop
Dec 2012
#52
All the other Democrats who have been mentioned for 2016 look like lightweights
bluestateguy
Dec 2012
#30
sigh...here we go again..."Hillary... almost definitely has a lock"...we will have a primary in 2016
antigop
Dec 2012
#53
and there you go again..."almost definitely a lock"...yep, there's that inevitability meme again
antigop
Dec 2012
#59
she's hasn't even said she's running. There is "no lock" for someone who isn't even running. nt
antigop
Dec 2012
#69
It's going to be her. I know it like I knew it was going to be Obama in 2008.
MjolnirTime
Dec 2012
#71
ah, yes.. the "inevitability" meme... it's hers..there is no one else. It's "inevitable." nt
antigop
Dec 2012
#76
tell you what...how about following davidpdx's advice and WAIT until you see who's running
antigop
Dec 2012
#86
ah, yes.. the "inevitability" meme... it's hers..there is no one else. It's "inevitable." nt
antigop
Dec 2012
#75
A meme? Hmmm. How about we just agree that it will be "a PRIMARY and not a coronation in 2016"
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#106
I'd guess she will be drafted. It does seem strange that no Democrat has come forth.
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#63
The chance of JB being elected President in a fair election is nearly zero
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#67
Other than her gender and her age and her party, what sets her apart from Jeb?
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#62
Jeb's last name is nationally toxic and his party has moved away from him to the right
Marsala
Dec 2012
#65
I agree she's made it with dignity and hard work. She's respected all over the world.
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#66
telling the truth about her support for outsourcing is not "crapping". Did I strike a nerve?
antigop
Dec 2012
#91
telling the truth about her support for increases in h1-b visas is not "crapping" either.
antigop
Dec 2012
#93
Feel free to vote for that other party. Until we can get a Grayson or someone else
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#103
so now postng Hillary's OWN WORDS is "sniping" and "carping"? Gee, don't DUers want the truth? nt
antigop
Dec 2012
#104
Wow...Hillary is not a Liberal. Most of us understand that. Sniping and carping, in this case,
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#108
Since she was on the Walmart Board of Directors, I'd vote for Fiengold or Elizabeth Warren.
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
#98
goes hand in glove with her statement about "advantages" of outsourcing US jobs. nt
antigop
Dec 2012
#100