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Cal33

(7,018 posts)
17. I believe the single payer healthcare is the system of choice for most liberals.
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:27 PM
Nov 2012

The Clintons tried for it in 1993. It didn't even get off the ground. The GOP
were fighting it tooth and nail. Nearly 20 years later Obama was successful,
but up to a point only. He compromised too much. Still, there are some
important gains: Pre-existing illnesses can no longer be excluded by insurance
cos., children can be covered under their parents' health plans up to age 26, instead
of the previous age 18....In 2 years 30 million more Americans will be able to buy
health insurance. That would still leave 17 million with no insurance at all -- but
it's far better than the present 47 million without health insurance.

I put it to the pathological greed of the corporate world. This applies not only in
the health insurance, but in just about almost every other field. Too many
sociopaths are in high positions in the right-wing corporate as well as political
world. And these are the ones who create problems with their uncontrollable
greed wherever they go.

I hope Obama has learned his lessons in the past 4 years, and now understands what kind of people he is dealing with. These people belong to the type who would try to take a mile if you gave them an inch. Treat them like gentlemen, and they'only take advantage of you and laugh at you for your "stupidity." A high number of them are sociopaths. Having a defective sense of morality, they feel neither pride, nor shame, and it is absolutely a waste of time to appeal to these qualities, because they are totally absent in sociopaths. They respect only strength. They can be made to do things only because they are afraid of the consequences, if they did not comply. That is why they so often resort to fear tactics as political tools,
because fear is what they, themselves, respond to.

These people may be highly educated, but their instincts are among the most
primitive. These are primitives with their moral development arrested at the
stage of the small child. And they can grow no further. The normal child can and
does.

And obama has to deal with them. I don't envy him. I think he should consult
with mental health professionals with expertise in sociopathy on how to deal
with them. These are not normal people.

thus making us responsible instead of the people we elected. nice tactic nt msongs Nov 2012 #1
Well, there's really nothing at all wrong with providing lots of calcium supplement calimary Nov 2012 #2
Would another way of putting this be "they'll do as good a job as you are Cal33 Nov 2012 #32
Hardly! The buck stops with the president's decision! But it's nice for him to Cal33 Nov 2012 #3
Ultimately ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #5
A great point you've made, and I fully agree. Cal33 Nov 2012 #7
Authoritarian followers tama Nov 2012 #9
That's why we elected them -- to do what we want them to do. Yes, Cal33 Nov 2012 #10
That's not how I read it at all democrattotheend Nov 2012 #15
Would have worked until Rahm called us 'retards' and Axelrod told us to 'stop whining'. Myrina Nov 2012 #25
Well, that and "fair and balanced" media coverage... daleanime Nov 2012 #27
I've always considered Rahm to have been a little bit to the right of center, even Cal33 Nov 2012 #35
What will you have us do? How can I make him live up to our expectations? Vincardog Nov 2012 #4
The usual. Make your voice heard. Call the White House & your congressman. Discuss issue w/friends.. reformist2 Nov 2012 #6
Yup. And keep it up! Cal33 Nov 2012 #8
Yes, we should union_maid Nov 2012 #11
Agreed. We shouldn't attack him or most other Democrats, but honest Cal33 Nov 2012 #13
I agree 100% democrattotheend Nov 2012 #16
Thank you! Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2012 #30
Didn't Obama always say he needed our help to make EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #12
I believe frequent reminders via phone calls, emails, post mails for as long Cal33 Nov 2012 #18
Obama needs to help me get single payer healthcare Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2012 #14
I believe the single payer healthcare is the system of choice for most liberals. Cal33 Nov 2012 #17
after living with the good old NHS in Britain Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2012 #19
The NHS has been around in Britain for nearly 70 years, and is still going strong. Proof Cal33 Nov 2012 #21
Healthcare is not such a business in Britain Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2012 #33
What you've written above is unfortunate, but true. We are more materialistic than Cal33 Nov 2012 #34
Please note, that just because it isn't election season any more... Xyzse Nov 2012 #20
Important projects, such as getting rid of Citizens United, must be kept alive in Cal33 Nov 2012 #22
I can agree with this... Xyzse Nov 2012 #23
check out Robert Reich's facebook page. Myrina Nov 2012 #24
2016 is TOO IMPORTANT to hold hostage to the pet causes listed in the OP. Romulox Nov 2012 #26
Yes, FDR said similar back in the 30s NewJeffCT Nov 2012 #28
Republicans reputedly own 90% of the news media. It is an awesome Cal33 Nov 2012 #31
Trashing thread. The president has already stated what he plans to do. Let's please Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2012 #29
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