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Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
18. Remember, Obama lost ground everywhere
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:56 AM
Nov 2012

It was a big win, but the fact is that Obama both got fewer votes and won his states by smaller margins than in 2008, across the board (as far as I can tell). He won Florida by 240,000 votes last time; he's up 40,000 votes at the moment. He won Ohio by 250,000 votes last time; he's now on track to win by only 110,000. Nor was that just a swing-state pattern; deep-blue states like Hawaii and Vermont also gave him less cushion in his victories. Even in his strongest constituency -- DC -- There were 23,000 fewer votes cast, and they all came out of Obama's pool (Romney, by contrast, got almost exactly the same number of votes as McCain).

So if the pattern was that the president was going to come in with lower vote totals and tighter margins across the board, it makes sense that the places that he won by razor-thin margins -- places where he had no cushion, no votes he could afford losing -- would flip. His three closest margins were in IN, NC, and NE-2. So there it is.

Good question Seedersandleechers Nov 2012 #1
Been asking that same question Kookaburra Nov 2012 #2
Considering that Obama won NC by 0.8% in 2008 it is not inconceivable that WI_DEM Nov 2012 #3
It appears to have gone according to probability of winning. LisaL Nov 2012 #7
Also, the governor Cosmocat Nov 2012 #27
9.6% UE BootinUp Nov 2012 #4
What makes NC voters more concerned about UE than Californians? HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #8
Combined with other factors BootinUp Nov 2012 #9
It's something but probably HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #15
To be accurate...call it education BootinUp Nov 2012 #19
Don't know any folks from Mt Holly, but I know some from Goober Holler, Arkansas HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #33
I don't know. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #5
NC always had lowest probability of winning among swing states. LisaL Nov 2012 #6
NC has always been red. Turning it blue for the last election was unusual. We just went back patricia92243 Nov 2012 #10
It was not wasted. Daniel537 Nov 2012 #25
I wouldn't get too discouraged about NC Daniel537 Nov 2012 #11
It's very disappointing to us oswaldactedalone Nov 2012 #12
Keep trying union_maid Nov 2012 #16
(1) I think the GOP quietly out-foxed us here in 2010, since nobody expected them struggle4progress Nov 2012 #13
Why didn't D governor run for a second term? LisaL Nov 2012 #14
She said she wanted to work on economic problems, instead of campaigning struggle4progress Nov 2012 #17
How is she going to work on economic problems if she is not the governor? LisaL Nov 2012 #20
It's a little late to ask her to reconsider her decision now struggle4progress Nov 2012 #28
she meant during her lame duck status dsc Nov 2012 #30
Remember, Obama lost ground everywhere Proud Public Servant Nov 2012 #18
great analysis n/t outsideworld Nov 2012 #24
Tea Party is big here. karmaqueen Nov 2012 #21
The rich know how to maneuver all the dummies, while they do their looting! dmosh42 Nov 2012 #22
Hey, Obama won all of the seriously contested states except NC. yellowcanine Nov 2012 #23
I saw church van after church van arrive at the site I was working. Aeroette Nov 2012 #26
frankly it is a miracle that we were still a swing state at the end dsc Nov 2012 #29
He only lost by 2 points, if you pay attention to demographics it isn't that different from Virginia JRLeft Nov 2012 #31
I want to know ready2go83 Nov 2012 #32
We barely won there in 2008, and Obama has lost ground relative to 2008 geek tragedy Nov 2012 #34
Dems should have fought more for NC RosedaleGuy Nov 2012 #35
Obama got 35000 more votes in NC this year than in 2008, bornskeptic Nov 2012 #36
.l........... ready2go83 Nov 2012 #37
I thought GOTV did a great job.... zebe83 Nov 2012 #38
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