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In reply to the discussion: What do you think the race would look like right now if it wasn't Trump? [View all]grossproffit
(5,591 posts)138. Which is why she lost the nomination. Oh wait...she won.
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What do you think the race would look like right now if it wasn't Trump? [View all]
oberliner
Aug 2016
OP
With the beating that Hillary's taking, I suspect Kasich could wipe the floor with her.
TreasonousBastard
Aug 2016
#1
Perhaps - but let's not forget that the all-Trump all-the-time primary coverage left the other
EffieBlack
Aug 2016
#22
Yes. Unvetted candidates often seem better than vetted candidates. Till the covers come off.
Squinch
Aug 2016
#70
What beating is that? She's ahead 15 points nationally and ahead in most states. What are you
Squinch
Aug 2016
#59
Now that my post has been unhidden, I can say that I did not mean an electoral beating...
TreasonousBastard
Aug 2016
#190
It screws with their plans for that "I told you so" moment. Which was never in the cards anyway.
Squinch
Aug 2016
#75
All the super mega vetting might have innoculated her against that. Which is interesting. And
Squinch
Aug 2016
#86
That is a good point. This hypothetical nonesense serves no pupose except to perhaps
still_one
Aug 2016
#154
Now that my post has been unhidded, I can reply that I did not mean an electoral beating...
TreasonousBastard
Aug 2016
#191
Now that my post has been unhidden, I can reply that I did not mean an electoral beating...
TreasonousBastard
Aug 2016
#192
Narco Rubio would be an easy target due to the sleaze factor; Kasich would be difficult.
forest444
Aug 2016
#6
Hillary Clinton has high unfavorable ratings for the simple fact that she is a woman.
KMOD
Aug 2016
#20
Not difficult. Some people do not like women. Hillary would still win either way.
Maru Kitteh
Aug 2016
#143
I always thought Kasich would be their strongest candidate esp. with his Ohio support.
George Eliot
Aug 2016
#16
Why so quick to take offense? I agree but most people just see the public persona. That's my point.
George Eliot
Aug 2016
#123
Of course. Look at the # of candidates. He was establishment. Both JK & HRC are establishment.
George Eliot
Aug 2016
#145
Hey, you didn't have to join the conversation. I opined to OP and you interjected so get over it.
George Eliot
Aug 2016
#173
The trust worthy thing goes away As soon as the mud gets flung, sanders and kasock were never vetted
bettyellen
Aug 2016
#144
but people don't look at records and he comes off a lot better and likable than Trump
JI7
Aug 2016
#28
i don't trust the media . i remember how it was with W Bush . even now it's not the media
JI7
Aug 2016
#35
I wouldn't be surprised if Kasich was leading her. Both Rubio and Jeb are Overrated so i think she
JI7
Aug 2016
#26
Kasich is really really bad on planned parenthood and abortion rights. He defunded PP
Demsrule86
Aug 2016
#204
Her negatives are improving...doesn't that make you happy? I know great news!!!
Demsrule86
Aug 2016
#87
Yep, just like this OP. The primaries are over and these "what ifs" are bullshit.
grossproffit
Aug 2016
#45
Upthread they threw out the statement "Hillary is taking a beating" when she is miles
Squinch
Aug 2016
#61
Well... it's Hillary. 15 points ahead is just not good enough! She has to do better if she is
Squinch
Aug 2016
#73
The mood of the Republican electorate was to find a Red Meat Candidate. Cruz would mount a better
Agnosticsherbet
Aug 2016
#43
A little tighter. Bored Rs would show up to vote, where bored Ds would not show.
Festivito
Aug 2016
#47
Saying Democrats get bored and don't vote is unfair and untrue in my opinion.
Demsrule86
Aug 2016
#149
Why is it then that Ds do not come out to vote in non-presidential elections?
Festivito
Aug 2016
#176
Not calling something what it is might lead to ignoring a problem that could be solved.
Festivito
Aug 2016
#185
After this election it will be that way for a long time. I think people are so horrified by Trump
Squinch
Aug 2016
#68
i said Hillary is dOing better than Sanders would. you are arguing things which i have not said
JI7
Aug 2016
#156
I'm not disagreeing with you on how terrible Kasich is. Not disputing any of that.
geek tragedy
Aug 2016
#104
Trump is invigorating the "base" (such as it is) moreso than Kasich or Jeb would've
oberliner
Aug 2016
#121
Jeb was probably their best candidate, but the country has had enough of the Bush family.
B Calm
Aug 2016
#109
The Trump or Busters would fracture support for any replacement GOP candidate going forward
Haveadream
Aug 2016
#113
People who talk about how much Hillary is disliked don't seem to get that the polls and
Squinch
Aug 2016
#139
Kasich would be vetted. He has real problems with the abortion issue and deffunded
Demsrule86
Aug 2016
#205
Yes it was indeed right-wing bullshit - from start to finish (if that ever happens).
Chemisse
Aug 2016
#171
You don't think perhaps that Trump's screwy comments is why he is in the news?
Demsrule86
Aug 2016
#200
It would definitely be closer. I don't know how anyone could think otherwise.
Curtland1015
Aug 2016
#186
On the day Hillary is sworn in, we'll STILL have Sanders people here saying
alcibiades_mystery
Aug 2016
#194