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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Bill Clinton was speaking to middle-aged white guys like me, that's why Rachel doesn't get it [View all]scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)77. Hillary would apparently disagree with you
Because she ok'd the speech.
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Bill Clinton was speaking to middle-aged white guys like me, that's why Rachel doesn't get it [View all]
scheming daemons
Jul 2016
OP
As the OP, that it was aimed at men... seeing it from a guys perspective a "girl" who didn't
uponit7771
Jul 2016
#42
He called her a girl because he was speaking of his real time impressions and experience
EffieBlack
Jul 2016
#16
This. If Hillary was telling the same story, she would have said 'This boy wouldn't stop trying to..
Joe the Revelator
Jul 2016
#35
When I was in my early 20's, I was still referring to women my age as "girls"
bluestateguy
Jul 2016
#10
Well I beg to differ slightly. My sons are 28 and 30 and they still say, "I met a girl"
MichiganVote
Jul 2016
#11
A seasoned, wise, adult tv talking head should be able to do a gut check, and silently admit
Ninga
Jul 2016
#13
Utter nonsense. Bill spent much time relating to the achievements of women like his wife.
Trust Buster
Jul 2016
#15
I'm sorry you disagree.... but Rachel is completely tone-deaf about this speech and its impact
scheming daemons
Jul 2016
#18
I'm not sure that posters on this thread understand that Rachel was discretely describing that
Trust Buster
Jul 2016
#22
Anybody who has been married 40+ years has had rough patches in their marriages
scheming daemons
Jul 2016
#25
People need to get past all that. Yeah, he was a screw up at one time in that regard..blah,blah
MichiganVote
Jul 2016
#32
Which I disagree with her even going there, those two are STILL together. Chuck Todd pointed that
uponit7771
Jul 2016
#38
She wasn't "discretely describing." She was deliberately trying to paint a negative picture
pnwmom
Jul 2016
#43
The vast majority of reactions I've seen have been positive. Few people other than you and Rachel
pnwmom
Jul 2016
#55
His fond eyes have wandered quite a bit. You can disagree with Rachel and myself but it was a bit
Trust Buster
Jul 2016
#57
My apolitical gaming buddy who in many ways is standard issue white working class male
forjusticethunders
Jul 2016
#30
Spot on! It was a nostalgic speech about an earlier time. He was PERFECT. Also, we still say
RBInMaine
Jul 2016
#20
And he also referred to himself as a boy. So Rachel was just looking for something
pnwmom
Jul 2016
#45
+1, I think that's the one word she missed in the whole thing and then she got hung on the verbiage
uponit7771
Jul 2016
#51
Meh...There are some of us who still harbor strong negative feelings towards him
The empressof all
Jul 2016
#48
It wasn't lost on me that he was directing his remarks to white men. Strategically it's brilliant...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jul 2016
#60
I noticed as soon as Rachel and Brian came on that she was in a horrible mood. I kept
Upthevibe
Jul 2016
#65
No! Its sexist shit. Yale Law School students aren't "girls". That's bullshit
riderinthestorm
Jul 2016
#67
And you don't get to choose the labels that a married couple use for each other at stages of life
scheming daemons
Jul 2016
#74
Oh they are completely sexist. You are oblivious to feminist scholarship
riderinthestorm
Jul 2016
#76
The point that a proud feminist who just became a Presidential nominee sees it differently than you?
scheming daemons
Jul 2016
#80
Why doesn't the proud feminist who just became our nominee see it the same way as you?
scheming daemons
Jul 2016
#90
I thought this speech was very relatable. It brought back a lot of memories of my college
Tess49
Jul 2016
#68
It's super annoying to have the play by play pundits chime in immediately after the speech...
Chakaconcarne
Jul 2016
#79
I think you have to be an older woman to appreciate what "girl" means and when it is bad.
Vinca
Jul 2016
#83