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DanTex

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62. It's crazy that you are trying to make excuses for a Bernie surrogate calling Hillary a whore.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 09:51 AM
Jul 2016

At an event in front of thousands of fans screaming their approval. That's not a faked quote, there's video of it. To his credit, Bernie immediately repudiated that sexist language, but evidently some of his disgruntled fans still think that kind of thing is OK. That was an ugly moment in the campaign.

I have no idea what being me being straight, white and male (Bernie's core demographic) has to do with it. That offensive email was about religion, about bringing up Bernie's supposed atheism as a weakness in Bible Belt states. I happen to be an atheist (Bernie is not, apparently), so this email was an attack on people like me. I don't like the oversized role that religious plays in politics one bit. Of course I think using atheism against someone is wrong, and the guy who wrote the email has apologized.

But we're talking about private communications, not something said publicly at a campaign event in front of cheering fans. They never actually did attack Bernie for his supposed atheism, it was just one statement out of 20,000 leaked emails that barely amounts to anything. And as much as I don't like the idea of atheists like myself having our atheism used against us, I am also aware that if you leak 20,000 emails from anyone, you're going to find something objectionable.

If this guy had gone in front of a huge crowd and attacked Bernie for not believing in god, that would be a whole different story. And Jeff Weaver admitted this on MSNBC, he said that if you leaked all of his internal emails from the campaign you'd find some nasty stuff in there too. Of course. Because people are human.

Oh my worst emails would really upset the world bravenak Jul 2016 #1
Suspect that may be an understatement, lol. Hortensis Jul 2016 #15
Exactly bravenak Jul 2016 #25
Are the emails a fabrication? R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #2
No. They are real. Real people say dumb things. All the time. DanTex Jul 2016 #3
Ah, dumb things. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #6
Yeah, dumb things are killer in politics. People in politics need to understand DanTex Jul 2016 #10
Or Romney with his 47% comment. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #14
Or the Bernie surrogate who called Hillary a whore at that event. DanTex Jul 2016 #18
I wonder what orher "dumb things" are going to come to light? R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #20
Hopefully some from the Trump campaign. But Putin doesn't seem interested in hacking DanTex Jul 2016 #23
Hopefully, but stupid people do dumb things. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #27
The DNC wasn't lying about its role. A few DNC staffers sent dumb emails DanTex Jul 2016 #31
There's always more to boycott, and I still wonder what other "dumb things" are to come? R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #33
So you think that hacking into a DNC server is going to bring more sanctions than DanTex Jul 2016 #38
Potentially, yes. If it became clear that it IS Russia behind this then R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #43
Without reading 20K of them how would we know? Other than the one Brad Marshall wrote, pnwmom Jul 2016 #67
And after you do that rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #4
Yes good advice. Email with pgp only. DanTex Jul 2016 #16
For most people rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #21
This is true. DanTex Jul 2016 #29
I believe spearphishing rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #32
The humans are usually the weakest link in the chain. DanTex Jul 2016 #36
I've never defrauded donors by pretending to run a fair process when I wasn't. Scuba Jul 2016 #5
Neither did the DNC. But they did send some dumb emails to each other. DanTex Jul 2016 #7
Exactly. And I'm not really believing that the wide-eyed ones are not getting the distinction. Squinch Jul 2016 #35
Yes, if I did that to my clients then I wouldn't have any. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #8
Sounds like somebody is unhappy they got caught Android3.14 Jul 2016 #9
You equate Russia hacking our emails with transparency? leftofcool Jul 2016 #17
Good people are appalled that our own party was undermining the democratic process Android3.14 Jul 2016 #51
Except that the party wasn't undermining the democratic process. DanTex Jul 2016 #58
Oh suuure. They're apologizing because it was all fair and square Android3.14 Jul 2016 #70
They're apologizing because of one offensive email out of 20,000. DanTex Jul 2016 #71
What does it feel like to engage in situational ethics? Android3.14 Jul 2016 #72
I wouldn't know. Hillary is the nominee, get over it. DanTex Jul 2016 #73
Gonna be a Pyrrhic victory Android3.14 Jul 2016 #74
I'm sure you'd like that. But it's not gonna happen. DanTex Jul 2016 #75
Wrong there, Bubby Android3.14 Jul 2016 #76
Cheating, LOL. Bernie lost, fair and square, by a mile. Get over it. DanTex Jul 2016 #77
Like I said, I'm not arguing over the primary. Clinton's our candidate Android3.14 Jul 2016 #78
Yes you are. You just accused her of "cheating". DanTex Jul 2016 #79
I challenge you to quote where I accused her of cheating Android3.14 Jul 2016 #80
"This cheating, refusal to do anything substantive about the cheating" DanTex Jul 2016 #81
And then imagine it a second time, to the NEXT DNC head. Shandris Jul 2016 #11
That which you sow is that which you will reap. Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #12
First, I never sent a single bigoted email and never will. Second, false equivalency much? merrily Jul 2016 #13
so now, we're not hung up on people saying offensive things? No big deal? Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #19
It only matters with those some need to vilify. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #22
IOKIYAdnc elehhhhna Jul 2016 #30
It's all tribal politics. cyberpunk Jul 2016 #61
Other than Brad Marshall's offensive email, which are you referring to? n/t pnwmom Jul 2016 #68
other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #82
But DSW didn't write it, and for all we know she DID respond to it, since there was no repetition.nt pnwmom Jul 2016 #83
My biggest problem with DWS is that she allied herself with Sheldon Adelson in 2014 to Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #84
If you actually read the text of these emails Doctor Jack Jul 2016 #24
My worst email ever does not elehhhhna Jul 2016 #26
This. nt oxymoron Jul 2016 #28
One characteristic of this election season... CBHagman Jul 2016 #34
Let he who is stoned cast the first sin!!!! Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #37
The problem isn't any specific email - SpareribSP Jul 2016 #39
A few emails out of 20,000 is not "systematic". DanTex Jul 2016 #40
The emails are not suprising because of all the crap hurled during the cycle with such Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #41
That's true, with Bernie's campaign constantly slandering the DNC, I'm not surprised DanTex Jul 2016 #42
Yeah, that sort of characterization is exactly what I'm talking about Dan. You can't Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #44
You forgot to actually list the "facts" you claim you listed. DanTex Jul 2016 #45
It was not a surrogate and he said 'corporate whores' not 'Hillary is a whore'. This is about Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #46
Of course not. Just a random guy Bernie chose to speak at one of his events. DanTex Jul 2016 #56
I'm giving exacting quotes while you editorialize to avoid the facts, it's script writing and Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #60
It's crazy that you are trying to make excuses for a Bernie surrogate calling Hillary a whore. DanTex Jul 2016 #62
The apologists on this site are really coming out of the woodwork Scalded Nun Jul 2016 #47
Lol, so are the haters of all things related to Democrats. giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #59
Which of her emails specifically were offensive? Brad Marshall wrote an offensive one about atheists pnwmom Jul 2016 #69
makes me wonder if i should stay a democrat after this joedogs Jul 2016 #48
Rigged election, LOL. DanTex Jul 2016 #57
You know it was actually Jesus Onyrleft Jul 2016 #49
Then I will cast it quaker bill Jul 2016 #50
The emails being featured BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #54
I can honestly say Proud Public Servant Jul 2016 #52
How about what you BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #55
So you think it would be different if it was sent on gmail. DanTex Jul 2016 #64
Of course it matters Proud Public Servant Jul 2016 #66
Thanks, DanTex! BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #53
This is the very worst, most lame excuse in the book..... Sivart Jul 2016 #63
I agree they should know better. Everyone in public life or even an executive level private sector DanTex Jul 2016 #65
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