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2016 Postmortem

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stopbush

(24,396 posts)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 02:30 PM Jul 2016

Apparently, Hillary Needs To Totally Reinvent Herself To Beat Trump [View all]

Oh, the handwringing from the concern trolls has reached fever pitch on DU. It seems like every other post offers advice to Hillary that she needs to change this, that or the other thing...who are we kidding? Make that change EVERYTHING or risk losing it all to Trump.

Never mind that she is kicking Trump's ass in every poll that isn't a right-leaning poll, that she has Rs organizing to vote FOR her, that she has insurmountable leads among minorities and in the EC, and has a party that is totally united behind her at a point in history when Ds outnumber both Rs and Indies among voters. Never mind that she is leading Trump at historic levels at this point in the presidential campaign. Never mind that her favorables are rising, have reached 50% and will continue to rise as we near the election (hell, the MSM may have to give up their "people don't like her" BS).

Yet we're to be very, very concerned that Hillary is going to lose to Trump because? Because Trump can't pull above 40%? Because he picks a bigger bigot than himself as his running mate? Because every single day brings a new ineptness from Trump and his team of losers? Why?

"Hillary needs to move to the center on Syria to beat Trump"

"How a conservative wins in a liberal decade"

"Clinton v Trump leaves 6 in 10 unhappy: Contest tightens"

And - of course - she needs to move to the left while she's at it, lest people like Cornel West endorse someone else.

Etc.

Sorry, but I'm not buying the bullshit. Hillary is doing just fine being herself, doing what she has always done, the way Ds have always done what they do.

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Hillary is awesome as is.. fun n serious Jul 2016 #1
I voted for her because of her judgment on the issues that confront this country. ehrnst Jul 2016 #2
Folks, who do YOU trust to take that proverbial 3 am call? DinahMoeHum Jul 2016 #3
The test... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #4
Is Trump winning any demographic other than white males? vi5 Jul 2016 #5
Ever wonder where the loud, obnoxious, racist, elitist Libertarians and MRA's disappeared to? Crash2Parties Jul 2016 #40
Yes, white social conservative women, the kind Hortensis Jul 2016 #48
But that's still a minority of all women.... vi5 Jul 2016 #88
Yes well, the strength of social conservatism arises, Hortensis Jul 2016 #90
K&R! DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #6
Keep telling yourself that, and we lose Android3.14 Jul 2016 #7
You are a minority iof one in this thread SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #11
That's a sign many here are living in a bubble Android3.14 Jul 2016 #15
Have you ever noticed how often people that think differently ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #54
We cannot risk devolving into an echo chamber AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #64
Yes we can. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #77
No. There are others of us who SheilaT Jul 2016 #18
You should know based on the primaries that bumper stickers aren't reflective of anything pnwmom Jul 2016 #21
FYI You don't see hardly any bumper stickers these days Gman Jul 2016 #32
I still see lots of Obama Biden ones AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #65
And a whole lot of people won't put a sticker on their car Gman Jul 2016 #96
She won the primary Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #78
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #22
If 15-million votes constitutes lukewarm, stopbush Jul 2016 #13
Time to open your eyes Android3.14 Jul 2016 #20
Time to open your eyes. Hillary has huge numbers of supporters who have pnwmom Jul 2016 #23
If you want to believe the media spin that this is a populist election, stopbush Jul 2016 #28
how do you get away with bashing du members? stonecutter357 Jul 2016 #53
That's what I want to know. betsuni Jul 2016 #55
Sure, it's a populist election cycle, or at least that's the media's chosen narrative. Lord Magus Jul 2016 #56
HRC: 16,838,264 Voters! :-) Her Sister Jul 2016 #51
Lack of hand-wringing does not equate to complacency. Hand-wringing is useless; latter is deadly. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #14
Um, I don't agree. The only ones voting for trump are white men with a high school or less, Laser102 Jul 2016 #17
Keep bashing Hillary and we lose. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #19
Hey, I support her. It says so right in my sig line Android3.14 Jul 2016 #27
Again with the they instead of the we. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #29
Language is language Android3.14 Jul 2016 #31
I hesitate to post anything... StoneCarver Jul 2016 #35
The rules are clear Android3.14 Jul 2016 #45
Good luck StoneCarver Jul 2016 #49
I have not seen any rational posts hidden Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #80
Wasn't the subject of this thread SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #37
You are the one displaying hostility. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #39
Perhaps you can tell me when general election polls weren't close? BainsBane Jul 2016 #97
You're watching how her campaign is shaping up and who she picks for VP stopbush Jul 2016 #43
More impotent "blame the voters" rhetoric Android3.14 Jul 2016 #44
She needs to this, she needs to that. stopbush Jul 2016 #47
"She needs to excite a broader segment of the nation while unifying the party" AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #66
Still feeling left out? MyNameGoesHere Jul 2016 #73
Great post. I completely agree Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #79
Honestly, you sound like someone who's waiting for her to lose so you can say 'I told you so' Maven Jul 2016 #33
She got more than "lukewarm" support. She had the overwhelming support from Democrats in general. Lil Missy Jul 2016 #71
An "uncertain 65%"? auntpurl Jul 2016 #83
This is why I'm so glad that Hillary is our nominee. She's strong on both domestic & foreign policy. grossproffit Jul 2016 #86
you mean the lukewarm support she gets from Sanders supporters and DLCWIdem Jul 2016 #98
Massive K & R. Thanks for posting. So spot on. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #8
I don't even wath the news Coolest Ranger Jul 2016 #9
Agree 100% mcar Jul 2016 #10
It's always good for anyone to move to the left. ananda Jul 2016 #12
Some of us worriers are die-hard Clinton supporters and have been for many years. StevieM Jul 2016 #16
The difference is that your response isn't that Hillary must reinvent herself pnwmom Jul 2016 #24
No need to reinvent herself AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #67
The thing to remember is that between then and now, we had two presidential elections auntpurl Jul 2016 #85
Also Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2016 #89
Can u say "Cog Lock"???? Cryptoad Jul 2016 #25
She needs to make Bernie VP zappaman Jul 2016 #26
Not in the cards, but Warren would be a good choice Android3.14 Jul 2016 #46
Media and pundits will always find a meme and ride it whether true or not. I was wiggs Jul 2016 #30
"Media and pundits will always find a meme and ride it whether true or not...." LenaBaby61 Jul 2016 #34
Issues aside ... left-of-center2012 Jul 2016 #36
I'm one to think bucolic_frolic Jul 2016 #38
Thank you. CanonRay Jul 2016 #41
Most of the country isn't paying any attention.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #42
K&R betsuni Jul 2016 #50
Hillary reminds me of Eleanor Roosevelt. Hard to improve on that. no_hypocrisy Jul 2016 #52
Would Eleanor have been a good President? Android3.14 Jul 2016 #57
IMO, she WAS President. no_hypocrisy Jul 2016 #58
Thank you. Android3.14 Jul 2016 #59
It's a Ken Burns documentary dflprincess Jul 2016 #62
You should see it, it's an amazing, absolutely amazing documentary. joshcryer Jul 2016 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author cosmicone Jul 2016 #60
Methinks some are overly "concerned" cosmicone Jul 2016 #61
Strawman AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #63
The race will tighten the way a constrictor snake tightens its grip on its prey The Second Stone Jul 2016 #68
I heard the same thing with Romney Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #82
The funny thing is Clinton being herself has been her best asset this time around. joshcryer Jul 2016 #69
Those same concern trolls are likely he same ones who insisted only Bernie could win over Trump. Lil Missy Jul 2016 #72
Her message is excellent and she walked through the primary with it. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #74
And West has already endorsed Jill Stein. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #75
Yeah, well...we can't talk about that. grossproffit Jul 2016 #87
I didn't know that. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #91
Hillary is doing just fine. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #76
You forgot one..."Hillary needs a voice coach." grossproffit Jul 2016 #81
Me too Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #84
Bravo! lillypaddle Jul 2016 #92
If anybody needs to reinvent themselves Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2016 #93
I am proud to K&R this post! BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #94
it would be quite amusing if it weren't quite so sickening. niyad Jul 2016 #95
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