2016 Postmortem

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35. no democratic party = no bernie or bernie's $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. more delusional thinking from

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Bernie Sanders Doesn’t Owe the Democratic Party a Damn Thing [View all] Playinghardball Jun 2016 OP

A-M-E-N Faux pas Jun 2016 #1

He Lost... jzodda Jun 2016 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author rhett o rick Jun 2016 #23

Well said. n/t JimDandy Jun 2016 #30

Yes. I agree ... erlewyne Jun 2016 #116

+2. n/t bvf Jun 2016 #90

Your first sentence GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #94

Have you looked at the polls today? vdogg Jun 2016 #106

Good. I guess there is no need to keep disparaging Sanders and Sanders supporters then. nm rhett o rick Jun 2016 #136

Good post! DJ13 Jun 2016 #108

Can't disagree, but now we're stuck with Hillary... unless the FBI has something to say about it. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #126

I am not giving up until the Convention. But one way or the other, our work is just rhett o rick Jun 2016 #137

Nope. Bernie is not the stronger general election candidate. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #141

How is being critical of the election system an insult to voters. Once all Democrats were rhett o rick Jun 2016 #142

What you're really being critical of is the outcome. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #144

How do you know it wasn't rigged? Sounds like wishful thinking. We know the Powers That Be rhett o rick Jun 2016 #145

No we didn't see "evidence of voter fraud and disenfranchisement in most states." Or any states. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #146

No, the poor and the middle class lost once again. notadmblnd Jun 2016 #55

So true... Bernie was their last hope. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #127

If you were concerned about Trump you should not have supported the weaker candidate with all GoneFishin Jun 2016 #102

Not disagreeing... but now we have to make the best of a bad situation. What choice do we have? InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #128

R-A-m-e-n yourpaljoey Jun 2016 #36

But he wants the Democratic Party to owe him much.....he really doesn't play well. n/t Sheepshank Jun 2016 #2

They need him more than he needs them democrattotheend Jun 2016 #5

Owe, such as? Play Well? Rather vague and dripping with insignificance. libdem4life Jun 2016 #6

I'll say this Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #56

I don't think he thinks that way. He might think the Dem party owes the American People Hiraeth Jun 2016 #67

Whatever. He never was a Democrat anyway, and what he does and does not do will determine... NNadir Jun 2016 #3

and that means your place is in history is .... Hiraeth Jun 2016 #66

Apparently neither was I, and I had been voting for Democratic candidates since I could vote. n/t That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #95

Jeez get over it already workinclasszero Jun 2016 #4

This is in direct response to you all's constant posts that Bernie was allowed to run as a Democrat JimDandy Jun 2016 #34

No, Bernie didn't lose. The Working class and the poor lost yet again. notadmblnd Jun 2016 #60

The working class and the poor chose Hillary lunamagica Jun 2016 #70

You keep telling yourself that. notadmblnd Jun 2016 #72

It's the truth lunamagica Jun 2016 #74

Keep telling yourself that notadmblnd Jun 2016 #75

They always seem to lose when the establishment is in charge... why is that? hmmm InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #130

because they don't see us as human. notadmblnd Jun 2016 #132

Some life... what could have been. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #129

How far would he have come without them? baldguy Jun 2016 #7

And it's really strange giving him credit for so many new voters when it's clear HRC had a lot more bettyellen Jun 2016 #9

Wait? I am getting confused. Are you saying that Clinton doesn't need his supporters? If so rhett o rick Jun 2016 #26

I didn't say either of those things, lol. Not so good on the listening part are you? bettyellen Jun 2016 #41

It's known as deflection rock Jun 2016 #61

Yeah, they need to keep up the belief that all new voters were Berners... bettyellen Jun 2016 #62

Exactly. "How far would he have come without them?" Not very damn far. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #20

That statement implies that they helped him at all Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #63

He wouldn't have received his 12.5 million votes without the (D) after his name. baldguy Jun 2016 #97

Do you deny any of the content of my post? Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #98

Show the official DNC press statements supporting your charges. baldguy Jun 2016 #110

DNC press statements? Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #112

Oh, so it's a conspiracy. Or should I say **ANOTHER** conspiracy? baldguy Jun 2016 #114

Time for beddy bye, fella Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #118

Exactly. It's beyond clear that Sanders needed the Dem party a hell of alot more than many Dems feel Number23 Jun 2016 #87

Democratic Party Doesn’t Owe Bernie Sanders a Damn Thing RogerM Jun 2016 #8

Exactly. What is clear though, is that many of Bernie's followers feel entitled to something. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #27

It's far from over. We aint siting down and shutting up. We've just got a good start. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #28

They just don't get it. Thirties Child Jun 2016 #65

Just remember. DLCWIdem Jun 2016 #80

Wow, another new Hillary fan jumping in. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #84

"...by no means adversarial ..." You seem to have forgotten the "I welcome their hatred" part. Scuba Jun 2016 #123

Yes, I am really really hoping, just like you that Sanders moves on JimDandy Jun 2016 #39

The only "shenanigans" in NV were that Bernie supporters tried to steal the convention. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #44

Not true. But I'm not interested in educating you... JimDandy Jun 2016 #69

Not interested and also not capable. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #99

So then why are you still on a democratic website? AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #119

The "Bernie Sanders brought millions of new people into the Democratic Party" meme is getting old. qdouble Jun 2016 #10

I Guess... kadaholo Jun 2016 #12

It's a conspiracy of course. qdouble Jun 2016 #13

How is he bringing them into the party if they're not registered Democrats? ContinentalOp Jun 2016 #14

Zap! Hekate Jun 2016 #47

He is the one who thinks that he is owed something KingFlorez Jun 2016 #15

The Democratic party is a participatory organization. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #16

What a strange thing to say, "and trying to do the most good for the most people." rhett o rick Jun 2016 #31

Sorry you find that to be such a strange thing. I have noticed that trend. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #37

So let me get this straight... tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #17

" ... legitimately lost ...". Delusional much? nt GoneFishin Jun 2016 #103

Let me set you straight demwing Jun 2016 #111

You can't have it both ways. athena Jun 2016 #121

And yet he's pledged to Democratic wins in November. Orsino Jun 2016 #18

people just don't get it. I hope you enjoy the reich under the republicans if they win MariaThinks Jun 2016 #19

If she is the nominee then Trump will win. You have no one to thank but those who voted for the GoneFishin Jun 2016 #105

The Dem Party allowed him to use its infrastructure, which he had NO part in building... Hekate Jun 2016 #21

Use their infrastructure. You mean the infrastructure that consistently helped Clinton? Skwmom Jun 2016 #25

Without that infrastructure how many of Bernie's supporters would've ever heard of him? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #46

I agree with everything you just said. 100% Right on! skylucy Jun 2016 #48

+ a million. If he'd been half as focused on educating his supporters on how the registration and Number23 Jun 2016 #88

+10000000000 treestar Jun 2016 #93

I am sure he regrets it. He let them get close enough to stab him in the back. They lied about him GoneFishin Jun 2016 #107

wish I could k and r this. niyad Jun 2016 #125

Thanks ... and done Hekate Jun 2016 #133

It's being less well-received there than it is here. Hekate Jun 2016 #139

but you did make it to greatest there!! niyad Jun 2016 #140

Your reality appears to be a vast and interesting place. Scootaloo Jun 2016 #134

They let him run as a Dem because they never thought he'd gain any traction. TDale313 Jun 2016 #138

and the Democratic Party owes him NOTHING as well--certainly not getting his way on the rules niyad Jun 2016 #22

and ...... you have some power over all this .... Hiraeth Jun 2016 #68

where do you come up with that? I am simply pointing out to the OP that his assertion works niyad Jun 2016 #71

"The media never gave Bernie a chance" Tarc Jun 2016 #24

media 3hummingbirds Jun 2016 #32

MSNBC is the most leftist of the "corporate media" Tarc Jun 2016 #45

They might be leftist lancer78 Jun 2016 #79

Yeah, right. You are a regular comedian. GoneFishin Jun 2016 #109

bull shit DLCWIdem Jun 2016 #100

To it's membership, sure. To it's "leadership?" Not a thing. (nm) Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #29

Except a quick and overdue exit. Eom. MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #33

no democratic party = no bernie or bernie's $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. more delusional thinking from msongs Jun 2016 #35

Bullshit... quickesst Jun 2016 #38

I would think Lance Bass esquire Jun 2016 #40

The party needs to take up our issues dreamnightwind Jun 2016 #42

GOOD! Then the Party also OWES HIM NOTHING! Lil Missy Jun 2016 #43

just as well. they gave him nothing except the screw. nt restorefreedom Jun 2016 #52

The Democratic party apcalc Jun 2016 #49

Bernie's VENUE came from Progressive online sites and 'tv stations'. Nothing more. Jennylynn Jun 2016 #59

Well, Bernie said it himself. apcalc Jun 2016 #78

True. Didn't quite work out for him. Maybe he shouldn't have said it. Jennylynn Jun 2016 #81

Bernie should have run an independent campaign WhiteTara Jun 2016 #50

He owes Clinton a concession, that's it.....nt asuhornets Jun 2016 #51

Sanders has done the Democratic Party a great service azurnoir Jun 2016 #53

Amen to that Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #54

Very well said, sir! I agree, wholeheartedly. djean111 Jun 2016 #58

when you chose to run as a democrat MFM008 Jun 2016 #57

Sanders should listen to the advice that Gore gave Dean when Dean dropped out. Beacool Jun 2016 #64

That 50 state strategy needs to come back. Skink Jun 2016 #82

I think that it will this year. Beacool Jun 2016 #85

The Democratic Party doesn't owe Bernie Sanders a Damn Thing. eom tarheelsunc Jun 2016 #73

They owe him thanks for making them think outside the Beltway Box. ancianita Jun 2016 #76

And the reverse is true as well . WE DON't OWE BERNIE SANDERS A THING bravenak Jun 2016 #77

That's right! And the Democratic Party doesn't owe Bernie a damn thing either. XRubicon Jun 2016 #83

Remember when Clinton was accused of being "entitled" and SDs were bad??? Bleacher Creature Jun 2016 #86

Caucusing with Senate Dems jamese777 Jun 2016 #89

Yes he does. We let him run as a democrat! demosincebirth Jun 2016 #91

Nor does anyone not on their payroll. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #92

Bernie Sanders will endorse HRC. He has telegraphed it over and over emulatorloo Jun 2016 #96

True, since he's never been a Democrat. RandySF Jun 2016 #101

And we don't owe him anything. vdogg Jun 2016 #104

Okay, he doesn't owe the Democratic Party a damn thing.... Skid Rogue Jun 2016 #113

I thought we'd already moved from "Denial" to "Anger" to "Bargaining" brooklynite Jun 2016 #115

The denial stage apparently takes a very long time. athena Jun 2016 #122

Neither does the Democratic Party/Hillary Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2016 #117

In that case jrandom421 Jun 2016 #120

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"Debbie Washerman Shithead"? "Shillary"? does it get more Right Wing than that? Tick tock. Hekate Jun 2016 #135

Completely illogical...Bernie and his supporters ARE the Democratic party! Do they owe themselves? Sancho Jun 2016 #131

Agreed. He is not a Democrat, and does not offer much to the party. Certainly not enough to warrant eastwestdem Jun 2016 #143

Thank you. We own our votes. I will choose and Bernie will choose and I'll never think less of him. George Eliot Jun 2016 #147