2016 Postmortem

Tom Rinaldo

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Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:43 PM

Jun 2016

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It wouldn't take a far fetched conspiracy to link the Clinton camp to the AP call. [View all] Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 OP

It's much more likely to be triggered by the Sanders campaign, since they will benefit more. eastwestdem Jun 2016 #1

Bingo! tonyt53 Jun 2016 #2

Not Bingo. Polls showed Clinton benefited from lower turnout in California. Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #84

It's obviously open to debate Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #5

Exactly why it was done pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #10

How does that work exactly? TDale313 Jun 2016 #9

Someone from his campaign could easily have called the AP and encouraged them to prod the supers to eastwestdem Jun 2016 #11

AP has been regularly contacting Supers. TDale313 Jun 2016 #25

and don't forget passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #64

The newest Conspiracy Theory...Bernie, the media darling. LOLOLOL. libdem4life Jun 2016 #79

Exactly lunamagica Jun 2016 #54

Sanders supporters outraged over Clinton's 'secret win' image w4rma Jun 2016 #62

"SECRET WIN" didn't come from the Bernie camp and you know it.... think Jun 2016 #76

Don't pop their balloon...it seems to be pretty thin these days. libdem4life Jun 2016 #80

Plan A called for her to declare victory before the votes were counted in California anyways geek tragedy Jun 2016 #3

Plan A called for her also winning California Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #15

Occam's razor is usually a pretty good rule. nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #20

Occam's razor is often used to try to get others to buy the simple explanation. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #32

Some people live in a world filled with convenient conspiracies to fit all occasions. procon Jun 2016 #4

Do tell pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #8

Well, there you have it. procon Jun 2016 #24

Loser? Hardly pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #28

Absolutely. A Revolution never ends with the first battle...win or lose. libdem4life Jun 2016 #81

Let Them Eat Cake Phase pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #83

Exactly how is his campaign supposed to prevent ugly tactics passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #65

I'm not willfully blind... JSup Jun 2016 #35

Benefit of the Doubt pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #42

Really? passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #66

It deflates her win and New Jersey and Calif. I think it was on her side. But Fucks with her win. seabeyond Jun 2016 #6

It could definitely backfire. TDale313 Jun 2016 #19

I am so tired of a year of Sanders supporters, without evidence, accusing her of everything they seabeyond Jun 2016 #39

Excellent Post pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #7

I agree. Well thought out. Unfortunately we may never know the facts since relevant e-mails .... imagine2015 Jun 2016 #14

LOL pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #17

Or maybe Joe Klein will come out with another novel. passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #68

LOL pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #70

Nothing would surprise me when it comes to dirty tricks by the Hillary campaign. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #30

It would surprise me to learn that the AP & NBC suddenly love Clinton displacedtexan Jun 2016 #45

If they get the scoop on the big story, why not? passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #71

1st time i ever complained but this is very long 4 paragraphs mitty14u2 Jun 2016 #12

What? pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #21

So many words, to be so soon forgotten alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #13

Like all posts here in time Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #22

True story alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #23

WELL written. Thank you. n/t Triana Jun 2016 #16

One conspiracy after another. randome Jun 2016 #18

The bottom line was that the current delegate system lends itself to this Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #27

Well, like Sanders, you should have started on this a long time ago. randome Jun 2016 #31

A useful post making good points Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #38

Damn! I've forgotten how to react to sensible back-and-forth exchanges! randome Jun 2016 #40

LOL. You did great! Especially with that reply Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #46

Right on the money. He was a kind of unwilling warrior, or so it seemed. libdem4life Jun 2016 #88

Classic cia response. LfuckingOL! Dont call me Shirley Jun 2016 #36

Ask Bernie why he did it in 2008. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #26

it''s god's will (choose your own deity to insert here) nt msongs Jun 2016 #29

Some billionaire called in a favor. It's not personal it's just business. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #33

Real Losers must cheat to win. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2016 #34

Just what does the AP have to do with today's election? I would suspect if anything it will motivate doc03 Jun 2016 #37

So why this then? nbsmom Jun 2016 #41

Oh give me a break doc03 Jun 2016 #51

because Bill Clinton drove by the polling place passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #72

I forget what state it was but I remember Sanders people going bonkers insinuating doc03 Jun 2016 #86

He did not just drive by passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #87

it's puerto Rico and Virgin islands fault JI7 Jun 2016 #43

It doesn't take much to know it ruins her Tuesday win and she isn't afraid of Sanders, the win is seabeyond Jun 2016 #44

I want the Super Delegate System Changed, and so should Hillary Clinton Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #48

You know what? I have heard no one gripe about it in '08 or '04. All of a sudden it is the end seabeyond Jun 2016 #49

I supported Hillary in 3008 Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #53

There was no good reason for it except to suppress the vote in California Doctor_J Jun 2016 #47

Intentional ignorance isn't a terribly compelling argument. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #50

AP did the same thing 10 days ago for Trump.... Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #52

Four Key Differences Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #56

why would any of those objections be relevant to AP's attempt to have Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #57

Assuming you read my whole OP Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #58

agree it would have been more considerate Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #59

I'll agree that it is speculative Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #60

I can't agree more Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #75

She can and will still have a celebratory party tonight for winning NJ passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #74

You lost fair and square. Time to put away the crazy and fly your ship back down to the Earth. RBInMaine Jun 2016 #55

!! I can barely type I'm laughing so hard at this post Number23 Jun 2016 #89

Welp... The AP Collaborated With The Nazis... AzDar Jun 2016 #61

Since it potentially suppresses the down ballot votes, why the hell would she want to do that? Hekate Jun 2016 #63

It isn't a general election, these are primaries Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #69

It's not "legitimate", it's intentionally manipulating an election. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #67

"NOW your talking. Those AP guys are Tools of the Hillary machine"__B. Sanders Bill USA Jun 2016 #73

Television News Network Lobbyists Are Fundraising for Hillary Clinton think Jun 2016 #77

yeah, and they invented the rules of arithmetic to benefit hillary more than Sanders..LOL Bill USA Jun 2016 #82

You're too proud to understand but that's all right. I get it.... think Jun 2016 #90

Study: Hillary Clinton, not Donald Trump, gets the most negative media coverage - VOX.com Bill USA Jun 2016 #91

your article says lobbyists raised ~$200,000 from Television Ind., her campaign Tot: $204,258,301 Bill USA Jun 2016 #92

Motive established: USC/LA Times Poll shows Bernie winning California if turnout was high Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #78

It's the definition of a conspiracy theory. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #85

Regardless of how far fetched...it would still be a conspiracy. I have a better one for you Sheepshank Jun 2016 #93