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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: I would Never Vote for Sanders Again [View all]merrily
(45,251 posts)80. Uh huh. You were a very strong, unequivocal supporter. That's clear from your older posts.
If Sanders Can't Handle Clinton's "Dirty Tricks" [View all]
I have been lurking on these forums since the primaries started and I hear a lot about Sanders would be cruising to the nomination if it weren't for Clinton and her dastardly coin flips and lies about Sanders record. Perhaps some of these stories are true ( although some have sounded like paranoid, rambling conspiracy theories) and I wouldn't put it past the Clinton's to play dirty. Truthfully, I don't really care for Hillary and I would much rather have Sanders as president ( although I would take her any day of the week over one of those psycho Republicans).
So perhaps good guy Bernie is being beaten down by negative campaigning, cheating, and having the deck stacked against him. Maybe every accusation I have read against Clinton in the primaries is 100% true and Bernie is being screwed over. All of that begs the question, if Bernie can handle the Clinton machine, how in God's name is he going to be able to handle the full onslaught of the Republican party?
Maybe Clinton and the DNC are dishonest and pulling dirty tricks, but that will be kids gloves compared to what the Republicans will bring. Do you really think if Bernie got the nomination, trump or rubio or cruise and the RNC and the billions dollar super pacs will play nice? That the campaign will be a respectful exchange of ideas and realy focused on the issues that affect america today? Do you not think the GOP will take everything Bernie has ever said out of context or make up insane bullshit about him or rig the vote every chance they get?
If you think Clinton is tough and unfair, it will be 1/1,000,000th of what he will face as the Democratic nominee. The one thing that has given me pause about supporting Sanders is whether he (and his supporters) can take the heat and frankly can fight dirty if needed. American politics is a much of a blood sport as it is about having ideas.
To put it bluntly, if you want Sanders as president, toughen the fuck up. Prepare for a full on war more brutal than anything the Clinton's or DNC would ever be willing to image.
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Hillary lies about breaking govt rules that concern an FBI investigation but you trust her. Got it..
think
Jun 2016
#1
Issues still matter. America is the only nation that doesn't have universal healthcare out of
think
Jun 2016
#9
Howso? If Bernie had the pledged lead, I'd be calling for unity from my fellow Hillary...
moriah
Jun 2016
#126
Hillary has serious legal problems. She's also got electability problems.
Voice for Peace
Jun 2016
#48
you're projecting something on him. maybe you expected him to be something different.
Voice for Peace
Jun 2016
#29
who is asking you to bow down and be grateful? you're just messin with our heads here
Voice for Peace
Jun 2016
#51
I like her better that she broke some rules, no really... the whole perfect person bit was tiring
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#20
Could she hold my booze while I use the shitter? Then I might cut her some slack.
floriduck
Jun 2016
#155
So you're applauding Hillary breaking State Dept rules that have now got the FBI involved?
think
Jun 2016
#23
Yes, she should also drink a little bit too much a couple of times... pinch some guy on his ass
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#34
Cool. Next she can take tons of money from corrupt banks and pretend it won't influence her
think
Jun 2016
#39
Nah, just vote for some corporations to have lawsuit preceding immunity... that's way worse no? tia
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#41
Nothing like getting filthy rich taking money from banks that you did favors for as SoS
think
Jun 2016
#45
Yeap, make all the money she can ... just don't give them immunity for court proceedings and she's..
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#55
Why don't you link to those posts where you agreed so we can see the whole transformation? n/t
FourScore
Jun 2016
#4
Bernie Butter posts are always bizarre. So far, not one BB can point to a series of posts
JimDandy
Jun 2016
#109
maybe it was all that time posting in the Hillary group without being banned,
GreatGazoo
Jun 2016
#140
When you actually read what Bernie said in context instead of the headlines...
aikoaiko
Jun 2016
#93
Of course not. However your post is heavy on sizzle, but where the hell is the beef?
avaistheone1
Jun 2016
#60
Whatever, I'm sure you will go back to voting for Nader or Stein for president
Doctor Jack
Jun 2016
#53
How is Bernie driven by ego? What is your evidence of that? Simply that he stays in the race when so
highprincipleswork
Jun 2016
#52
Uh huh. You were a very strong, unequivocal supporter. That's clear from your older posts.
merrily
Jun 2016
#80
Damn that hurts. If Bernie lost you then life as we now it ends, Right here and right fucking now.
Autumn
Jun 2016
#134
itt: "anyone who stops supporting Bernie never supported him the first place"
forjusticethunders
Jun 2016
#135
He never said a word about an indictment or Hillary and trump being the same
morningfog
Jun 2016
#139
If you enjoy blatant, easily-disproved lies then you are backing the right candidate
GreatGazoo
Jun 2016
#142
I wonder why I don't believe you ever supported or voted for Bernie. nt
Live and Learn
Jun 2016
#158
He used to believe in healthcare as a right, deep Pentagon budget cuts, an end to fracking,
Doctor_J
Jun 2016
#161