2016 Postmortem

Exilednight

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33. what's so extreme about the positions Sanders has carved out? which

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Warren is Trying to Unite the Democratic Party, But All She's Doing is Betraying Progressives [View all] Skwmom Jun 2016 OP

Is there room for for Elizabeth Warren under that bus? n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #1

A grade school taunt doesn't address the issue. Skwmom Jun 2016 #5

Stating that Elizabeth Warren is "betraying progressives" is juvenile, at best n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #21

Liz Is Self Serving... WORTHLESS! She Had Her Chance To Stand Up For What She Talks About, BUT... CorporatistNation Jun 2016 #198

WTF right? ExtraGriz Jun 2016 #204

Contrived issues arent worth addressing puffy socks Jun 2016 #22

Single payer, a living wage, family leave, against death penalty, FAIR trade, free public college think Jun 2016 #40

No one on this board are against those things brush Jun 2016 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jun 2016 #66

Trump is not beating our nominee. He will lose spectacularly. brush Jun 2016 #78

All a reasonable person has to do is to take a look at the electoral map. HRC landslide in November. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jun 2016 #104

Who said I was against any of those? puffy socks Jun 2016 #65

Your hate rant sucked. Enjoy your day also.... think Jun 2016 #68

Aw u mad puffy socks Jun 2016 #73

No. Just calling out your crap. think Jun 2016 #75

so niw you get to tell me what I am for? puffy socks Jun 2016 #156

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:16 AM Your another April drop of trolls. 900+ posts Phlem Jun 2016 #101

$1,000,000 buys a lot of Brockoli,... HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #115

And 4 hidden posts already! QC Jun 2016 #134

Get those accusations in. In another nine days you won't be able to do it. Nt stevenleser Jun 2016 #232

Whatever chief. Your history is embarrassing at best. Phlem Jun 2016 #234

I have nothing to be embarrassed about. But your silly attacks on new DUers stevenleser Jun 2016 #238

Uh huh. Against Hillary till the neoliberal gravy train comes by then Phlem Jun 2016 #241

Actually, it's par for the course. It's all they got. libdem4life Jun 2016 #226

There is always room under the bus. (nt) apnu Jun 2016 #52

there is only ONE true progressive, only one man deserving to be President. The Almighty Bernie... wyldwolf Jun 2016 #240

The Revolution will not be spurned! LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #2

LOL Scurrilous Jun 2016 #230

Attacking Warren? bravenak Jun 2016 #3

Jerry Brown and Barbara Boxer too Renew Deal Jun 2016 #51

Aaaaaaaand, the day of Elizabeth Warren trashing has arrived! YouDig Jun 2016 #4

Starry Messenger and I were taking bets obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #82

On the way! You called it! Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #90

Yay! obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #93

There is no fury like a Berner scorned. nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #174

Camp weathervane tossed her under the bus months ago. blackspade Jun 2016 #205

Shame on Elizabeth Warren for attacking Donald Trump. Skinner Jun 2016 #6

You know that's not the issue being addressed. BillZBubb Jun 2016 #16

The author of the article makes clear that the catalyst for his article.. Skinner Jun 2016 #28

Well done. Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2016 #42

Wow, that's some good spin. And a "proof" too! BillZBubb Jun 2016 #49

LOL, you just proved my point. Skinner Jun 2016 #54

LOL. No I didn't. BillZBubb Jun 2016 #58

But attacking Trump and failing to endorse in the primary are not related things. Skinner Jun 2016 #70

I believe I was pointing out that for Warren's future prospects, self-serving might be a good thing. BillZBubb Jun 2016 #91

I agree with you pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #208

I know you'd like to use the same tactics as in the past trudyco Jun 2016 #64

Logic shmogic. This is The Revolution. LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #80

Haha, Trump is the opponent of all of us who belong on this website. Get it? n/t seaglass Jun 2016 #81

LOL sarae Jun 2016 #184

There's nothing "logical" about drawing False Equivalencies between Trump and HRC emulatorloo Jun 2016 #126

Nobody who says Hillary is more the enemy than Trump Nonhlanhla Jun 2016 #128

Well, I can see where they might be coming from. Beartracks Jun 2016 #231

That's because those "progressives" aren't Democrats BainsBane Jun 2016 #151

Skinner actually used true scientific/logic proof obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #86

Sorry, he didn't. Note the "if" and FUTURE TENSE in the first predicate. BillZBubb Jun 2016 #95

Well yes, he did obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #100

Wrong. If the predicate contains a conditional and a future tense, it doesn't hold water. BillZBubb Jun 2016 #135

No, he refers to the past too: muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #188

I like your use of logic but trudyco Jun 2016 #57

Extremely well stated! pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #59

You are making the exact same argument as the article, and my logic still applies. Skinner Jun 2016 #60

Nope. Your logic is based on faulty assumptions. Therefore your conclusion is wrong. trudyco Jun 2016 #69

There it is again! Skinner Jun 2016 #74

Ah, maybe I misunderstood you trudyco Jun 2016 #84

I think unifying the party is one reason she is doing it, yes. Skinner Jun 2016 #123

Who is not "flawed"? George II Jun 2016 #140

Fortunately, any "deep divide" that exists in the D Party stopbush Jun 2016 #221

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #114

Nice proof! wildeyed Jun 2016 #142

Attacking Trump is not enough. She refuses to address the problems within Skwmom Jun 2016 #207

Not Funny And Off The Mark cantbeserious Jun 2016 #30

See my subsequent post above. Skinner Jun 2016 #37

I Did - We Will Have To Agree To Disagree cantbeserious Jun 2016 #39

Under the bus with you, Skinner! Zorro Jun 2016 #122

lolz obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #85

Did you graduate from the Dennis Miller School of Comedic Arts? corkhead Jun 2016 #117

That is NOT the issue. She can attack Trump until the cows come Skwmom Jun 2016 #127

Nice spin pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #209

here is more of the ideological "purity test" crap and why we don't stand for it beachbum bob Jun 2016 #7

what's so extreme about the positions Sanders has carved out? which Exilednight Jun 2016 #33

Canned speech of 30 years .. beachbum bob Jun 2016 #147

i will try this again. What issues do you take issue with? I'm not asking about speeches or Exilednight Jun 2016 #155

They got nothing but taunts and insults. Bernie is an old-style, libdem4life Jun 2016 #227

I don't think "Walter Bragman" is a real person. wildeyed Jun 2016 #143

We're gonna need a bigger bus. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #8

Man, that bus undercarriage is getting quite a workout lately Tarc Jun 2016 #9

You said it man!! GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #129

Clinton is supported by progressives, is a progressive, and has progressive policies. seabeyond Jun 2016 #10

Hardly - HRC Is A Corprotist To The Core cantbeserious Jun 2016 #31

Nu uh seabeyond Jun 2016 #34

Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Much, Much Differently cantbeserious Jun 2016 #36

And your opinion..... only seabeyond Jun 2016 #38

And Therein Lies The Truth And The Tragedy Of A Corporate Controlled Political System cantbeserious Jun 2016 #43

Unfortunately for you, not enough to get Berie the nomination redstateblues Jun 2016 #67

Keep Shitting On Senator Warren If You Wish emulatorloo Jun 2016 #102

But but Republicans hate her!!! /sarcasm uponit7771 Jun 2016 #116

many repubs support her. jack_krass Jun 2016 #166

Wall St didn't giver her 100s of millions to be a progressive. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #118

NRA didn't fund Sanders to be progressive. seabeyond Jun 2016 #131

Well, hell, who knows Sanders and Clinton better? Warren or some media pundit? randome Jun 2016 #11

Save us Saint Bernie!!! /sarcasm BootinUp Jun 2016 #12

Warren has shown herself to be a calculating, cynical politician. BillZBubb Jun 2016 #13

Or she knew what many of us knew on DU some time ago: Sanders was never a real possibility. randome Jun 2016 #23

That is illogical. Why not endorse Hillary then? BillZBubb Jun 2016 #62

I don't know. I don't really like her, either. randome Jun 2016 #71

She is seriously misreading the tea leaves. Many people are NO longer willing to rely on pretty Skwmom Jun 2016 #27

Roger That cantbeserious Jun 2016 #32

Just wow mythology Jun 2016 #89

I think you confuse Hero Worship with Ideals trudyco Jun 2016 #107

+1,000,000 Skwmom Jun 2016 #150

It makes me think of Pascal's Wager DookDook Jun 2016 #44

I imagine yours is the best spin available to thiose trailing in second. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #108

Your response is typical Hillary fan drivel. The "we're winning, you're losing" game is asinine. BillZBubb Jun 2016 #137

I like it when people write something in the subject line Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #228

'Cowardly'? Attacking trump is fucking 'cowardly'? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #193

That's your spin pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #213

Calculating yes pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #212

The first inkling of the notion that she will openly back Hillary, and you guys stab her. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #14

She cheered Clinton's blame it on the regulators financial plan, ignored Clinton's refusal to Skwmom Jun 2016 #24

I guess that'll be the new meme, excuse and justification for the next week or two. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #109

what Senate mJority. we are the minority and will stay there. Exilednight Jun 2016 #41

New to politics, aren't ya? tonyt53 Jun 2016 #76

what six seats can we win? Exilednight Jun 2016 #125

FL, IL, OH, PA and WI will flip. AZ, MO and NC are possible with Trump's anti-coattails. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #169

There are 2 independents, who may or may not caucus with us. Exilednight Jun 2016 #172

Are you joking? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #235

The truth is that voters have rejected Bernie Sanders redstateblues Jun 2016 #15

I imagine Sanders will get the same treatment from the sufrommich Jun 2016 #17

Elizabeth Warren hasn't endorsed either candidate, so her attacks on Trump are meant to weaken him Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #18

Up is down. Black is white. BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #237

Love Warren. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #19

Loved Warren laserhaas Jun 2016 #26

I agree with that. The Party is better for having her. She's a fighter too. floriduck Jun 2016 #94

Good God. This is what's wrong with the way Bernie talks about things. Zynx Jun 2016 #20

Sanders says "this is where I stand" and makes no apologies. He doesn't claim to be the mikehiggins Jun 2016 #47

Bullshit. You've obviously never listened to Bernie. BillZBubb Jun 2016 #53

LOL, under the bus, under the bus! FSogol Jun 2016 #25

She better save some room under that bus for Bernie. He'll likely be joining her there, soon. (nt) stone space Jun 2016 #29

Warren.... UNDER the bus. seabeyond Jun 2016 #35

Oh for the love of God.. Peacetrain Jun 2016 #45

She has to play it down the middle in order to fight for us mmonk Jun 2016 #46

The true "progressives" are on board for the GE. Renew Deal Jun 2016 #48

And the bus rolls back and forth over Warren. nt WhiteTara Jun 2016 #50

She lost a lot of credibility with the left by not stepping up and endorsing Bernie. Zorra Jun 2016 #55

Too bad Sanders couldn't step up and build coalitions among his co-workers. randome Jun 2016 #61

I could say the same about Clinton. blackspade Jun 2016 #206

She was Sone of the first people who asked Hillary to run for President obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #88

No she didn't. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #168

He was and is a better candidate pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #203

Elizabeth Warren will NOT be thrown under the bus. MineralMan Jun 2016 #63

We have been saving your seat for you, Elizabeth! Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #72

She should have backed Sanders right from jump street yourpaljoey Jun 2016 #77

right on! Merryland Jun 2016 #98

And under the bus goes Elizabeth Warren obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #79

I wished she endorsed Bernie early, but she has to protect herself from Clinton vindicteness aikoaiko Jun 2016 #83

What vindictiveness? You mean like not paying off Bernie's debt, nor paying for his Rome trip? LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #92

When the Clintons feel betrayed, there can be "hostilities". aikoaiko Jun 2016 #97

Elizabeth is establishment of her own volition. She worked closely with the Obama administration LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #112

Well that doesn't explain why she didn't endorse early like the masses. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #124

I agree she is threading the needle. But I think that Hillary gets that. LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #139

What a horrible thing to say about Senator Warren. emulatorloo Jun 2016 #87

I agree, Skwmom Merryland Jun 2016 #96

So she's either stupid or calculating? These are the reasons? displacedtexan Jun 2016 #199

So you wouldn't want her for VP ...am I right? Sheepshank Jun 2016 #103

It was only a matter of time before Senator Warren was thrown under the bus Gothmog Jun 2016 #105

I'm deeply dissapointed she did not step up azmom Jun 2016 #106

This, incidentally, is why I am *certain* Sanders's fans would abandon him in 20 seconds Recursion Jun 2016 #110

What does Rocky de la Fuente think about this? obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #111

Two, I hear the bus coming RandySF Jun 2016 #113

Nobody expects the Emoprog Inquisition. OilemFirchen Jun 2016 #119

Marxists ARE the true left, and I am one of them obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #121

There's an exception to every rule. OilemFirchen Jun 2016 #149

LOL pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #214

+ 1 JoePhilly Jun 2016 #148

they will demand a Walk of Atonement for her. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #175

Warren is the best hope for reuniting the party after HRC departs leveymg Jun 2016 #120

Hillary is not going anywhere, other than the WH. Beacool Jun 2016 #153

I agree that she will win the GE. But let's just suppose, hypothetically, that this race was won by StevieM Jun 2016 #161

Ah, so Warren is now part of the evil 'establishment' because she attacks Trump instead of Hillary Maven Jun 2016 #130

Nope pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #215

I certainly do not feel betrayed. djean111 Jun 2016 #132

"She cannot erase the history that has led to this moment." 2banon Jun 2016 #133

. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #176

Wow...just wow. Do they ever look into a mirror and have some self-reflection? anotherproletariat Jun 2016 #136

Warren can't say anything to make me like HRC, but Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #138

TRAITOR!!!!! zappaman Jun 2016 #141

When Sanders stumps for Clinton an angel's wings will be torn off! tandem5 Jun 2016 #144

That is absolutely correct! Pastiche423 Jun 2016 #165

TRUMP is the enemy. Unity is what we need. Feathery Scout Jun 2016 #145

Bwahahaha ... the "movement" wanted Warren long before it "accepted" Bernie ... JoePhilly Jun 2016 #146

Actions Speak Louder Than Words pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #216

she is our diplomat and will sooth arguments- we need a liason in the senate larkrake Jun 2016 #152

Sheesh, nothing but the best for the oppressed, n'est ce pas? DinahMoeHum Jun 2016 #154

More purist claptrap from people who are shortsighted. Beacool Jun 2016 #157

If you aren't for systemic corruption and a govt that caters to the 1% while screwing the poor and Skwmom Jun 2016 #164

I for one agree with the article dreamnightwind Jun 2016 #158

Maybe she just disagrees with you? Isn't that a remote possibility? (eom) StevieM Jun 2016 #162

People are fed up with the rigged system and the status quo. NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #159

"Elizabeth Warren is betraying progressives." I've heard it all now. n/t pampango Jun 2016 #160

This is getting more ridiculous by the day bravenak Jun 2016 #163

I think it passed peak ridiculousness about 2 months ago. sarae Jun 2016 #187

I am trying to wait patiently bravenak Jun 2016 #189

Someone please define "the establishment" Zambero Jun 2016 #167

Warren doesn't "bridge the gap", she's a better more effective progressive senator than Bernie. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #170

You said this perfectly obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #217

Skwmom—I am considering this more. Meaning… CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #171

You're right. Except that, imo, if progressism grows, she'll become a viable candidate in 2020. ancianita Jun 2016 #192

now the Faith Militant are attacking Warren geek tragedy Jun 2016 #173

It was a finch, goddamnit! randome Jun 2016 #179

High Sparrow geek tragedy Jun 2016 #181

Okay, I didn't get the connection, not being a GoT fan. randome Jun 2016 #182

It's kinda eerie actually nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #183

As a staunch Bernie supporter, I have to disagree with the word "betrayal" Android3.14 Jun 2016 #177

But you're left with rotten eggs when you embrace a corrupt and broken system to prop it up. Skwmom Jun 2016 #191

Always room for any Democrat Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #178

If people within the Democratic Party are so fed up justiceischeap Jun 2016 #180

Warren is a demagogue. joshcryer Jun 2016 #185

Betraying progressives is the new normal for the Democratic Party. 99Forever Jun 2016 #186

So, when Sanders drops out and endorses Clinton, as he has said he would... TwilightZone Jun 2016 #190

49 people recommend a thread that says Warren attacking Trump is a betrayal of progressives muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #194

Yep and Andy823 Jun 2016 #200

That's your spin pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #220

You don't seem to have read this - 3rd paragraph, 1st sentence muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #224

Not Convincing pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #225

Remember, we've got plenty of Trump supporters trolling this place. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #233

What so many don't seem to get LWolf Jun 2016 #195

Jeez. News flash. 99% of the people in this country are not suffering redstateblues Jun 2016 #210

Jeez. LWolf Jun 2016 #211

I knew it EW is now under the bus! book_worm Jun 2016 #196

What, no EW VP? Jesus....you guys turn on a dime... kjones Jun 2016 #197

At least she is trying to unite the party Andy823 Jun 2016 #201

Another post by someone who is neither progressive nor a Democrat tandot Jun 2016 #202

He has explicitly said he will encourage people to not vote for the Democratic nominee for president oberliner Jun 2016 #219

From the author of: "I’m a millennial and I’ll never vote for Hillary Clinton" oberliner Jun 2016 #218

Sanders supporters hurry and preemptivly throw Warren under the bus.... Sheepshank Jun 2016 #222

Warren, Chomsky, eventually Sanders...all under the bus. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #223

What happens when Bernie endorses Hillary? Is he going under the bus too? Happyhippychick Jun 2016 #229

Of course. Then it will be "I can't believe I supported him only for him to sell out" stevenleser Jun 2016 #239

Oh enough of this Tea-Left insanity. Please, go to TrumpLand and practice crazy there. RBInMaine Jun 2016 #236