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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: The Hillary Camp is incorrect to insist that *72% of Sanders supporters will vote for Hillary* [View all]TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)45. That's how you win elections in this country.
Democrats are 36% of the electorate. A candidate needs roughly 50% to win in a two-person race - Obama received 51%. You can't win without some independent and GOP votes.
This is really just basic math.
Independents will split, contrary to the assertions of many, because they always split. Recent polls show them going anywhere from roughly 40/40 (20% undecided) to CBS' recent poll showing them at 51/33 Clinton.
Roughly 20% of GOP voters have indicated they'll stay home or vote for Hillary.
Her assertion is therefore accurate - she'll need crossover votes to win, because everyone needs crossover votes to win. Even from Republicans.
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The Hillary Camp is incorrect to insist that *72% of Sanders supporters will vote for Hillary* [View all]
JimDandy
May 2016
OP
That ISN"T asking you to leave. As I matter of fact, I said I'd welcome your analysis
JimDandy
May 2016
#27
If she's the nominee, we'll see soon enough. Meanwhile, she should be VERY grateful Trump is such a
merrily
May 2016
#5
Who cares about polls months away from the election?? Hillary is the Democratic nominee.
Sancho
May 2016
#8
Hillary's initial campaign roll-out was based entirely on polls - well over a year and a
djean111
May 2016
#14
Apparently lots of your team mates care. They have posted this many times on DU this week.
JimDandy
May 2016
#15
All this speculative nonsense is a waste of time, as Bernie says, people are starving in
pdsimdars
May 2016
#17
Good grief, that isn't at all what my post said, so I stopped reading any more of yours
JimDandy
May 2016
#26
Yes, that ridiculously high percent sounded really off. Parsing and analyzing the details
JimDandy
May 2016
#60
I agree with your assessment. When it comes down between the Democratic nominee or trump
still_one
May 2016
#54
They're running for President of the United States, not president of the Democrats and Independents
TwilightZone
May 2016
#48
No one does. Besides, how often have we heard polls mocked when they don't support Sanders?
randome
May 2016
#44
Progressive supporters of Bernie who won't vote for Hillary, would also never vote Trump.
JimDandy
May 2016
#55
There will be a lot of Bernie write ins, votes for Jill Stein, and blank
liberal_at_heart
May 2016
#57
I'm considering Stein. The Green Party's platform is way more progressive than HRC's.
EndElectoral
May 2016
#63
Without a doubt. It's clear they want to send a message that neither Clinton or Trump
JimDandy
May 2016
#65