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2016 Postmortem

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TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:12 AM May 2016

Congratulations, Hillary supporters! [View all]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by LostOne4Ever (a host of the 2016 Postmortem forum).

You're winning! It's no secret. You've got a majority of the pledged delegates. A majority of the un-pledged delegates pre-pledged to you (weird statement). You've got the media behind you. You've got the Koch brothers behind you. You've got the entire Democratic establishment behind you. You've got 55% of the primary voters behind you. Those same pre-pledged un-pledged delegates seem confident they can also work with Trump so you're set no matter what.

You're winning. Relax. Let Bernie finish it out to the convention, take your trophy, and walk away. What difference does it make? He promised his supporters he'd see it through to the end so he should. He tends to keep his word, which isn't a bad thing. He's got a knack for consistency and it would be antithetical for him to bow out early.

I really don't understand all the posts from Camp Hillary belittling Sanders for seeing it through to the end. It is what it is. Everyone paying a modicum of attention knows what's up. The kind of commitment and passion he has generated from his supporters should be encouraged in our currently extremely disaffected political climate. It should be welcomed into the party and not tossed away. These are people willing to fight for our, as I have been assured by Hillary supporters, shared values. Why would anyone discourage that?

Going on and on labelling him a grifter/used-car salesman/charlatan/etc, promoting false narratives about "chairs", denigrating his supporting as "privileged" when you know nothing about their lives other than that they see a better future with Sanders. It's a great way to ensure these people leave the party.

I'm an ardent Sanders supporter. I think he's a way better candidate than Clinton. I won't vote for her in the fall...I haven't been shy about that...and it has nothing to do with anything her supporters have done. I guess all I'm saying is, you can't win me over, but there are plenty of people you could win over. The current strategy doesn't seem to be to give that a shot, though.

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No, there is no need for Bernie to fight this out to the convention. boston bean May 2016 #1
Keeping your word is a rare thing in politics these days... TCJ70 May 2016 #3
Sanders' anti-Democrat behavior is the problem, TCJ70. Hortensis May 2016 #15
The problem with that article is that the core of it is wrong... TCJ70 May 2016 #16
The problem with your lopsided analysis is that Hortensis May 2016 #34
The thing is... TCJ70 May 2016 #39
Um... that's coming from a Hillary supporter. Fawke Em May 2016 #18
Keeping one's word is important... k8conant May 2016 #4
His supporters don't want him helping her. Fawke Em May 2016 #17
I'll be so disappointed in him if he does either of those things. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #38
The issue is. The party does not represent us. PowerToThePeople May 2016 #2
I am not a monied interest and feel the party and Hillary represent me. boston bean May 2016 #5
I think it represents average people half the time and sells them out the other half of the time Armstead May 2016 #13
It is what it is. <<<<-------- He is doing damage to her by staying in once it's clear LaydeeBug May 2016 #6
She damages herself. Fawke Em May 2016 #19
This is just not true. But your concern is noted. nt LaydeeBug May 2016 #40
Her actions for 20 Years +. 840high May 2016 #60
The difference is continuing the attack against Clinton, Democrats and those of us that voted for seabeyond May 2016 #7
Beat up? You're winning... TCJ70 May 2016 #10
Ya... cause the only way to use the term "beat up" is actually being punched. seabeyond May 2016 #12
As long as he's stoking events like NV and helping Trump, don't expect people to be silent about it. YouDig May 2016 #8
No Hillary voter should be dumping on Bernie and his voters… CobaltBlue May 2016 #9
But Bernie voters should be dumping on Hillary and her voters, right? YouDig May 2016 #11
That is an hoot. Sanders and supporters have demanded being coddled from day one and we are seabeyond May 2016 #14
That's not enough for them farleftlib May 2016 #20
Several posters here have expressed that very sentiment. frylock May 2016 #41
frylock—I don't care about them. (They are false 'progressives.') CobaltBlue May 2016 #50
Yes, this is the point. potone May 2016 #29
Bingo. 2banon May 2016 #45
I was following you Bobbie Jo May 2016 #21
They really didn't want a process. They wanted a "revolution!" nt Jitter65 May 2016 #22
They wanted it handed to Bernie CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #27
You're fucking shitting me, right? frylock May 2016 #42
... CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #47
Your candidate will be the indictee. frylock May 2016 #48
I'm still going to vote in the down ticket races... TCJ70 May 2016 #23
Cop out. Bobbie Jo May 2016 #24
I guess honesty isn't he best policy in this regard... TCJ70 May 2016 #30
It is what it is. Bobbie Jo May 2016 #37
I was too until the last paragraph. grossproffit May 2016 #26
What is considered "support"? vi5 May 2016 #28
Vote Bobbie Jo May 2016 #36
Sorry you're not going to get your free stuff CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #25
Taxed Enough Already? frylock May 2016 #44
why would anyone lionize David Brock with his portrait in the sig line? grasswire May 2016 #52
For the Berner reaction CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #61
that's mature of you grasswire May 2016 #62
People complained about my St. Bernie sig CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #66
Eeuw. That pic in your sig-line is just nasty. nt. polly7 May 2016 #54
Oops: 2026 pledged delegates would be a majority; she has 1767. lagomorph777 May 2016 #31
I meant a majority of the ones that have been pledged in the contests so far... TCJ70 May 2016 #32
"Majority" is not to be tossed around lightly. She has more PDs, but not a "majority" lagomorph777 May 2016 #33
You're not alone. LibDemAlways May 2016 #35
That's what I'm talking about.. 2banon May 2016 #43
The media is behind her? Pretty silly statement since the media has gone after her for 25 years book_worm May 2016 #46
President Trump wouid set back the Progressive movement for a generation BlueStateLib May 2016 #49
Sure, we haven't had enough of bernie yet. He hasn't gotten his The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #51
Wed've only had 15 years of Hillary telling us she is the most qualified person in the world Armstead May 2016 #53
Oh I forgot, that's bernie's line now too. The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #56
K&R nt silvershadow May 2016 #55
If you actually think what is going on nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #57
Tailgating the general election. AtomicKitten May 2016 #58
Thanks nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #59
I'd like an ice cold ginger ale, please.. grasswire May 2016 #63
Here you go nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #65
Spot on...as usual... TCJ70 May 2016 #64
Bye Felicia nini May 2016 #67
LOCKING THREAD AS DISRUPTIVE META LostOne4Ever May 2016 #68
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