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Bill USA

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88. Powell's & Rice's personal email accounts were on a commercial emails service providers server
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:27 PM
May 2016

the Server was under the control of the commercial email service provider. The email account was that of the Republican National Committee. In addition to Powell and Rice about two dozen White House advisors had personal email accounts under the account of the RNC on a commercial email service provider.


All large commercial email service providers have hundreds of personnel who labor to protect their systems from hackers and malware. NOTE:TO DO THEIR JOBS THESE CYBER-SECURITY PERSONNEL MUST HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXAMINE ANY AND ALL EMAILS/ATTACHMENTS THERETO ON THEIR SYSTEM. These employees of these private sector companies do NOT HAVE GOVERNMENT SECURITY CLEARANCES. THEREFORE ANY PERSONAL EMAIL ACCOUNTS WITH COMMERCIAL EMAIL SERVICE PROVIDERS ARE NOT SECURE.... even if they have not been hacked by someone outside the companies providing the email service.


[font size="3"] IN 2007 it was revealed that the Bush administration "lost" millions of emails.[/font]

FLASHBACK: When Millions Of Lost Bush White House Emails (From Private Accounts) Triggered A Media Shrug


Even for a Republican White House that was badly stumbling through George W. Bush's sixth year in office, the revelation on April 12, 2007 was shocking. Responding to congressional demands for emails in connection with its investigation into the partisan firing of eight U.S. attorneys, the White House announced that as many as five million emails, covering a two-year span, had been lost.

The emails had been run through private accounts controlled by the Republican National Committee and were only supposed to be used for dealing with non-administration political campaign work to avoid violating ethics laws. Yet congressional investigators already had evidence private emails had been used for government business, including to discuss the firing of one of the U.S. attorneys. The RNC accounts were used by 22 White House staffers, including then-Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove, [font color="red"]who reportedly used his RNC email for 95 percent of his communications[/font].

As the Washington Post reported, "Under federal law, the White House is required to maintain records, including e-mails, involving presidential decision- making and deliberations." But suddenly millions of the private RNC emails had gone missing; emails that were seen as potentially crucial evidence by Congressional investigators.

The White House email story broke on a Wednesday. Yet on that Sunday's Meet The Press, Face The Nation, and Fox News Sunday, the topic of millions of missing White House emails did not come up. At all. (The story did get covered on ABC's This Week.)
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[font size="3"] ... the emails were later "found" after two watchdog groups sued the Executive Office of the Presidency to release the emails..
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Millions of Bush administration e-mails recovered

Washington (CNN) -- Computer technicians have recovered about 22 million Bush administration e-mails that the Bush White House had said were missing, two watchdog groups that sued over the documents announced Monday.

The e-mails date from 2003 to 2005, and had been "mislabeled and effectively lost," according to the National Security Archive, a research group based at George Washington University. But Melanie Sloan, executive director of the liberal-leaning Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, said it could be years before most of the e-mails are made public.

"The e-mails themselves are not what we're getting," Sloan said.

Documents related to the handling of e-mail under the Bush administration and subsequent information regarding how White House e-mails are currently archived will be released under a settlement with the Obama administration, which inherited a lawsuit the groups filed in 2007. But the National Archives must sort out which documents are covered by the Freedom of Information Act and which ones fall under the Presidential Records Act, which means they could be withheld for five to 10 years after the Bush administration left office in January, Sloan said.
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Please send this to the FBI. They need to know this so they can stop investigating! BillZBubb May 2016 #1
+1,000,001 dchill May 2016 #27
MariaThinks right. Hortensis May 2016 #65
+100X1000 840high May 2016 #77
AGREED! The Premise of This OP Is In A Word Nonsense! "I'm With The FBI!" CorporatistNation May 2016 #46
If you know what's at the bottom of it all Arneoker May 2016 #84
Wrong. She did a lot wrong, the private server just the tip of the iceburg. AtomicKitten May 2016 #2
Prove it. Oh wait, you only have allegations based on hate, no evidence The Second Stone May 2016 #31
Don't get too worked up about it. The FBI will complete its investigation and then make a bjo59 May 2016 #42
No, the FBI will complete their investigation and turn it over to the DOJ The Second Stone May 2016 #45
Those crafty republicans tricked her into putting a server in her house. bobbobbins01 May 2016 #3
The link doesn't bear out the OP's title line k8conant May 2016 #4
If I am correct Powell and Rice had private emails but their jwirr May 2016 #11
Rice and Powell did nothing like what Hillary did. 2cannan May 2016 #21
Like that's a big difference. Surprising how many Dems keep regurgitating repug smears. brush May 2016 #36
It's the difference between 2 and 2000, between errors and pattern &practice violations leveymg May 2016 #51
You've been pushing this indictment for quite a while now brush May 2016 #60
If history is a guide, the likeliest outcome is a pardon. But HRC won't be sleeping in the WH. leveymg May 2016 #63
I know it's your fervent hope that Clinton won't win the White House but . . . brush May 2016 #66
Powell's & Rice's personal email accounts were on a commercial emails service providers server Bill USA May 2016 #88
Months and months NJCher May 2016 #52
^^^^THIS. Well said. In agreement with all points. End. ReasonableToo May 2016 #56
The system is so bad yet Sanders has been a part of it for how many years now? brush May 2016 #59
the very least you could do is stop lying NJCher May 2016 #73
Not a lie. Only 3 bills penned by Sanders became law. brush May 2016 #78
very narrow assessment NJCher May 2016 #94
The motive is that I am not a Sanders cultist. He's been part of the establishment himself . . . brush May 2016 #95
well, if nothing else... NJCher May 2016 #96
Google the Congressional record, for God's sake. He has passed 3 bills in 25 years brush May 2016 #97
OK, I'll go slowwwwww NJCher May 2016 #98
If he's accomplished so much being an independent socialist why'd he have to join the Dems . . brush May 2016 #99
I work as a government contractor Arneoker May 2016 #85
She sent information and paid for it to a destruction hard drive/document specialist bkkyosemite May 2016 #5
ya, what the heck was that? "Cut it out!" floppyboo May 2016 #53
i agree trueblue2007 May 2016 #6
Anyone else have trouble with that link? BootinUp May 2016 #7
Brock must have forgotten to pay the ISP bills. Hare Krishna May 2016 #64
Oh we know, but it's pretty much the last arrow in the Berniefan quiver Tarc May 2016 #8
(Insert slow applause here) ChairmanAgnostic May 2016 #14
Yoou can hum that tune all day & night, but the only feet a'tappin are 'bros Tarc May 2016 #18
Are you smart enough to understand she is the ONLY one who ever used a...... Logical May 2016 #30
Slight correction dwrjr May 2016 #9
Yeah, nobody cares about sensitive US Govt. stuff anyway. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #10
None of the others set up a private server. That alone is a huge difference. highprincipleswork May 2016 #12
it's also a Sanders supporter smear campaign here at DU bigtree May 2016 #13
Well, here and at the Bureau headquarters in DC. frylock May 2016 #26
It's a well-known meme that the FBI is almost completely staffed... dchill May 2016 #28
You lost me with your first line. HRC herself said she made a mistake in handling her email as karynnj May 2016 #15
Right... AirmensMom May 2016 #16
No, it's an FBI investigation. Obama's FBI, which is not a RW organization. Autumn May 2016 #17
Media Matters = David Brock = Hillary Campaign; HRC did plenty wrong, at minimum violated FIOA amborin May 2016 #19
Remember when Media Matters was a reputable site? Before Brock tainted it? I do. ebayfool May 2016 #20
if you can cite any misrepresentation of fact on that site, do so. Without that your blowin smoke Bill USA May 2016 #91
And until this season they did that job (going after the GOP) just fine. But they have ... ebayfool May 2016 #93
Exactly. Brock = Clinton Propaganda (and a disgusting Internet Troll campaign)... NewImproved Deal May 2016 #102
Serious question for Hillary supporters beedle May 2016 #22
I believe that Bernie supporters hate hillary so much that they will take things out of patsimp May 2016 #23
Out of proportion??? beedle May 2016 #25
Precisely. It's different if you have your own business. She did not. JDPriestly May 2016 #34
Actually, companies that have public stock Mnpaul May 2016 #61
Pure unadulterated Brockaganda. frylock May 2016 #24
If Hillary's legal defense team is on par with her supporters... dchill May 2016 #29
What are the specific charges lovemydog May 2016 #37
I'm sorry, you must have mistaken me... dchill May 2016 #38
Nah, just another lovemydog May 2016 #41
Get real. dchill May 2016 #43
okay lovemydog May 2016 #89
They are not Mnpaul May 2016 #62
Media Matters - A little but nutty and a little bit slutty. Matariki May 2016 #32
+1 *snort* dchill May 2016 #44
The e-mails themselves won't be the problem. JDPriestly May 2016 #33
You. Are. WRONG. Your BIASED SOURCE is giving you INCORRECT IdaBriggs May 2016 #35
funny how so called progressives want hillary to be in a completely bad situation MariaThinks May 2016 #67
That argument completely ignores history. IdaBriggs May 2016 #68
what damages the party are people on the left who can be manipulated by the republican media MariaThinks May 2016 #69
Right now the issue is that the Democratic front runner IdaBriggs May 2016 #70
Very interesting this was the State Department's investigative arm. gordianot May 2016 #39
I'm actually a data security professional, and you're actually wrong. DisgustipatedinCA May 2016 #40
Well. Okay, then. n/t kcr May 2016 #48
So HRC set up the server herself?! She knew of its security level?! ... sigh, so sad uponit7771 May 2016 #50
guess we might never know, as all her emails to and from the immunity server dude are missing. floppyboo May 2016 #55
So is Foster :rolleyes: uponit7771 May 2016 #101
+1,000,000. n/t winter is coming May 2016 #83
These posts are getting sillier and sillier... JudyM May 2016 #47
Then why is the FBI investigating her emails? jillan May 2016 #49
Here is why, from opensecrets.org, May 31, 2013: ucrdem May 2016 #54
I was thinking there was a method to the FBI's ... ReasonableToo May 2016 #57
It's madness alright. ucrdem May 2016 #82
I guess we'll know for sure if Russia produces the 20,000 emails they claim to have. Vinca May 2016 #58
Of course it is. Bobbie Jo May 2016 #71
Hoo boy. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #72
Good! She can now start selling "I'm not a crook!" bumper stickers to her fans. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #74
Ha! More Nixonian than Nixon, is this one... NewImproved Deal May 2016 #103
The only conspiracy that exist... smiley May 2016 #75
I'm with HER! NewImproved Deal May 2016 #76
Maria didn't think this one through. pdsimdars May 2016 #79
she defied the freedom of info act.that is proven.no ifs ands or buts. wendylaroux May 2016 #80
Oh FFS... ibegurpard May 2016 #81
The emails ae gonna bring down the party, time for her to drop out and just retire. coffeeAM May 2016 #86
She erased forever untold thousands of them she'd determined "personal." n/t Skip Intro May 2016 #87
Bullshit. It's debatable whether she did something CRIMINAL. She DEFINITELY did something wrong by Vote2016 May 2016 #90
excellent post, bookmarked, recommended! Bill USA May 2016 #92
thanks Maria. Don't let the haters scare you away. patsimp May 2016 #100
So, Obama's FBI is part of a Republican smear campaign? How delusional. jfern May 2016 #104
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