2016 Postmortem

bettyellen

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90. that doesn't excuse the slur.

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Sanders quote: Often "a child has an old bitch of a teacher (and there are many of them)..... [View all] bettyellen May 2016 OP

It's how he made money since he couldn't hold down a regular job Sheepshank May 2016 #1

Couldn't, or didn't want to? I'm going with the latter. Maru Kitteh May 2016 #22

Oh, being a writer isn't a regular job? anigbrowl May 2016 #70

Did you read the part that said that he probably wasn't paid for his articles? CajunBlazer May 2016 #138

From 1969. Forty-seven years ago. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #2

Interesting that such a "liberal" could also be so very sexist. Not shocked you hear shit like bettyellen May 2016 #8

Couldn't find anything from the 1940's? TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #11

He was a grown ass man when spewing that foolish sexism. Spewing that sexism was his job. bettyellen May 2016 #12

Oh, please. You're looking unusually foolish. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #18

Comparing this to an unpaid parking ticket? SMH bettyellen May 2016 #23

Uh-oh. Another scolding from the teacher. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #26

So...you agree with his ideas about women "scolding". Wow, some people never grow up. bettyellen May 2016 #31

If the scolding fits, wear it. apcalc May 2016 #133

LOL. Nope. bettyellen May 2016 #134

So like Bernie, you hate teachers too? Maru Kitteh May 2016 #66

And little kittens, fuzzy ducklings, and ice cream. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #73

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #100

The women's movement gaspee May 2016 #78

Could explain why legitimate wins- and legit voters are summarily dismissed... bettyellen May 2016 #79

One may imagine that should a Goldwater Girl label from 1964 be yet valid in 2016, this is as well. LanternWaste May 2016 #14

Funny how gaspee May 2016 #81

He doesn't change...remember that is the draw to him. Sheepshank May 2016 #55

The CNN article is fairly recent, and there are more recent quotes out there that have... George II May 2016 #181

Incidentally, that's a year AFTER Hillary Clinton was a "Goldwater Girl" that's been posted... George II May 2016 #184

At least he didn't support Goldwater nt firebrand80 May 2016 #3

This^^^ NWCorona May 2016 #4

Who knows what else he supported when he was SIXTEEN YEARS OLD? pnwmom May 2016 #10

Or Write the TPP or vote for Iraq Invaision or Ferd Berfel May 2016 #16

do you know what the military was like before don't ask don't tell? Buzz cook May 2016 #39

It didn't last very long did it? Ferd Berfel May 2016 #40

Huh? Buzz cook May 2016 #49

Exactly! This, the "flag burning" and abortion restriction issues brought up are ignorance bettyellen May 2016 #56

DURING the civil rights movement, no less! nt vintx May 2016 #61

2016 - 1969 = 47 AZ Mike May 2016 #5

LIES. Not anti-gay, but for civil unions as opposed to marriage. The Clintons had the first truly bettyellen May 2016 #7

It was anti-gay, period. Prism May 2016 #53

I do not believe for a moment that the Clintons are homophobic. They have done more to promote LGBT bettyellen May 2016 #161

Oh, so suddenly you don't care about social justice Prism May 2016 #174

Oh baloney. You do not represent the LGBT community's judgement on the Clintons. bettyellen May 2016 #177

But it supports his long history... scscholar May 2016 #151

Lol. AZ Mike May 2016 #152

Take this and writings on women's rape fantasies RandySF May 2016 #6

The only thing disturbing TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #9

He didn't write these things RandySF May 2016 #15

how about just saddened at the lenghts some of you will go to twist things? n/t Bodhi BloodWave May 2016 #41

This shit again? Snippets taken out of fully literary context, granted poorly constructed. TheBlackAdder May 2016 #13

Lord have mercy, I'd hate to see what Aerows May 2016 #20

That is why you and me are not running for anything. HA. bettyellen May 2016 #33

You really don't remember article you wrote in your thirties? NCTraveler May 2016 #72

To be correct, if you're into that... dchill May 2016 #80

I believe his rape fantasy writings were in his thirties. nt. NCTraveler May 2016 #91

Is that a different horse... dchill May 2016 #92

No. I'm kind of partial to my horse. Nt NCTraveler May 2016 #155

I know, right? Frustrating, isn't it? NurseJackie May 2016 #63

I don't see this as being any more relevant than Hillary being a "Goldwater Girl" when she was young gollygee May 2016 #17

Hillary referred to African Americans as Super Predators in much more recent history berni_mccoy May 2016 #19

No. She didn't. (eom) StevieM May 2016 #30

Talk to BLM... They haven't been calling her out on this for nothing. berni_mccoy May 2016 #46

Only if you think ultra violent drug dealing gang members are all black. And you'd be wrong. bettyellen May 2016 #36

Ask BLM what they think about it (as they've been calling her out on this) berni_mccoy May 2016 #47

Your post was inaccurate. The most violent drug gangs in NYC and LA were not POC.... bettyellen May 2016 #52

Not inaccurate. She was clearly referring to the AA community. And I've heard Hillary Fans berni_mccoy May 2016 #54

she should apologize because it is a shitty way to refer to ANY HUMAN being. but to equate blacks w bettyellen May 2016 #59

Only stupid bastard ass'd racist think Super Predators are exclusively black. Dumb ass'd racist too uponit7771 May 2016 #145

And yet, news media and popular culture- (which both Clinton's were very well aware of) loyalsister May 2016 #82

All of this ignores that their focus was increasing penalties for VIOLENT criminals only. bettyellen May 2016 #89

That what they told the CBC, who had reasonable concerns loyalsister May 2016 #98

All BLM thinks that? REALLY?! Some people will make any excuse after a pure racist rant uponit7771 May 2016 #144

This is false on its face, only stupid ass'd racist think blacks are super predators uponit7771 May 2016 #142

Desperation from Camp Weathervane. Scuba May 2016 #21

lol, in 1969 he used offensive language. Hillary is still using offensive language: Vattel May 2016 #24

It's not a word, it is an attitude. a very sexist, resentful and woman blaming attitude. bettyellen May 2016 #38

By that logic, in 2016 as opposed to 1969, Clinton has a very racist, resentful, immigrant blaming Vattel May 2016 #117

Is illegal immigrants a slur now? " Illegals" is, but II has a legal meaning.... bettyellen May 2016 #126

"Illegal immigrant" is offensive, and even Hillary has apologized for her use of that expression. Vattel May 2016 #136

Uppity people suck, don't they Hillary? lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #120

So you're trying to put today's connotation on a word used 47 years ago? hobbit709 May 2016 #25

that is not "a word"- it is a nasty attitude toward women in authority.... and quite telling he did bettyellen May 2016 #28

Where you at, my Canesfan? bettyellen May 2016 #27

Hello Canesfan May 2016 #32

I have the honor of your first post! bettyellen May 2016 #35

An honor indeed Canesfan May 2016 #42

And you have an avatar already! Well done! GD and GDP are the busiest.... and the AA and Lounge the bettyellen May 2016 #45

Hired another intern? U4ikLefty May 2016 #172

Yeah, my dozen years here were all an elaborate ruse to eventually get paid! How clever you are to bettyellen May 2016 #179

I sure did find the mail. Canesfan May 2016 #175

Writers.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #29

Reading this article makes it clear that there is plenty of difference between StevieM May 2016 #34

what kind of candidate defends a child rapist by sexulaizing a the victim - a 12 yr old girl? azurnoir May 2016 #37

Crickets from the fanclub on this, as per usual... n/t LadyHawkAZ May 2016 #86

Yeah, my kid had one of those basselope May 2016 #43

one of what? bettyellen May 2016 #75

" old bitch of a teacher" basselope May 2016 #150

Hippy punching and red baiting as Hillarians proudly march to rightwing tunes. n/t ieoeja May 2016 #44

"Often "a child has an old bitch of a teacher (and there are many of them)" workinclasszero May 2016 #48

I think most teachers are pretty good and caring. book_worm May 2016 #50

Yes teachers doing their best in an imperfect system- it sucks to see them blamed for something that bettyellen May 2016 #65

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #51

God help us if the attitudes we had in a different time and at such a young age Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #57

If Hillary is not allowed to evolve- why should Bernie? bettyellen May 2016 #58

I know you arent talking to me Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #60

I'm just riffing on what you said. They are both imperfect candidates in my book. bettyellen May 2016 #62

It's refreshing to know someone tells the truth every so often. Vinca May 2016 #64

my oldest daughter had one of those and ya know what? azurnoir May 2016 #67

So- that makes sexist slurs okay all of a sudden? WOW. bettyellen May 2016 #69

everyone in the room who worked for the school system were women 2 were AA and 1 was Native American azurnoir May 2016 #85

that doesn't excuse the slur. bettyellen May 2016 #90

did you know or observe the teacher in question? She had retired by the time this conversation azurnoir May 2016 #99

would you defend the slur if it was racial- and tell me that an awful AA truly deserved it? bettyellen May 2016 #101

you seem to be the one smearing 2 AA women and a Native American women azurnoir May 2016 #104

smearing people for using sexist slurs? that is not how it works. they sullied themselves. bettyellen May 2016 #107

you seems to be screeching about it but go ahead smear PoC for speaking their minds azurnoir May 2016 #110

I'm super calm, but so sorry to get your blood boiling, LOL. Screeching my ass. bettyellen May 2016 #112

I'm enjoying this watching a Hillary supporter try to gain points by bashing Hillary's firewall azurnoir May 2016 #114

I will gladly, and calmly bash anyone who uses sexist slurs. Yes, indeed. bettyellen May 2016 #116

it's your call but a teacher who discourages learning based on a child's race azurnoir May 2016 #122

no one is "open game" for slurs among progressives. bettyellen May 2016 #123

we're talking about what women AA teachers said about a white teacher who discouraged AA children azurnoir May 2016 #124

A slur is a slur is a slur. Two wrongs do not make a right. You can hate the teacher without bettyellen May 2016 #127

so you compare 2 AA women to Palin and Coulter, because of what they said about a bigoted teacher? azurnoir May 2016 #146

Nope- I compared Palin and Coulter to the bigoted teacher. Slurs are ALWAYS bad. ALWAYS. bettyellen May 2016 #147

Not interesting at all nt Depaysement May 2016 #68

As a white male American in 1969 he was no doubt "of his time". Nye Bevan May 2016 #71

How is that offensive comapred to Hillary's bulshit: Bluenorthwest May 2016 #74

she tried to find something nice to say at a funeral. I hear she goes to weddings and events where bettyellen May 2016 #76

That was after the funeral, and it was not 'something nice to say' it was a vile misuse of Bluenorthwest May 2016 #84

It was in reference to the funeral. Your extreme outrage - and not towards Warren for bettyellen May 2016 #87

I note that your comments are all personal smears of me. Interesting choice, to distract from Bluenorthwest May 2016 #93

Noting your outrage is a smear? If I look at your posts about Warren will I find outrage that bettyellen May 2016 #96

This was so long ago, it was back when Hillary was a Goldwater girl. nt silvershadow May 2016 #77

I've not said anything negative about Bernie. cwydro May 2016 #83

Lol. That article was published KPN May 2016 #88

It is- they are both guilty of some thinking that looks archaic now. bettyellen May 2016 #97

Sanders' policy ideas remind me of the work of a ... Kang Colby May 2016 #94

It's NOT ok to use old sources against Bernie. But it IS ok to do the same against Hillary wyldwolf May 2016 #95

Wasn't this from back when Hillary was a proud Goldwater Republican? Attorney in Texas May 2016 #102

I think he was totally grown up at that point- not a teenager. A little old to still be resenting bettyellen May 2016 #103

So if this was 47 years ago, how long ago did Hillary advocate for discrimination against LGBT equal Attorney in Texas May 2016 #106

both Clintons advocated for incremental changes that have helped bring us to where we are now.... bettyellen May 2016 #132

Don't lie. He didn't express resentment women for doing their jobs. Vattel May 2016 #125

Mistreating? No - boys who did not feel like being taught are not being mistreated by bettyellen May 2016 #130

No, that was his other example. The "old bitch" reference was to cases where even if the child Vattel May 2016 #141

that i snot what the quote says? bettyellen May 2016 #149

yes, it is Vattel May 2016 #157

How is that less sexist? bettyellen May 2016 #158

nevermind Vattel May 2016 #159

it isn't- it simply gives no reason for slurring many women educators so harshly. bettyellen May 2016 #160

No, not interesting. shireen May 2016 #105

this is denigrating hard working women as b*tches. not exploring the politics of sexuality. bettyellen May 2016 #109

you're totally taking these writings out of context shireen May 2016 #113

And if he were referring to a male professional he might have used a terms like "bastard" Armstead May 2016 #118

asshole would be a better choice than a slur. BTW, what are female bastards called? bettyellen May 2016 #121

I guess you're unfamiliar with the Clintons' colorful use of language in private Armstead May 2016 #108

I'm real familiar with how much RW rumors are suddenly the truth for some here. bettyellen May 2016 #111

I've seen examples of it...at least from Bill Armstead May 2016 #115

I don't have a problem with her having a "temper" or using dirty words.... bettyellen May 2016 #119

I had one in 3rd grade. Ilsa May 2016 #128

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #129

From July 2nd, 2015 Bernie Sanders said .... Jackilope May 2016 #131

how did congress address this "toxic testing"? Bernie voted for it, so I guess he was lying to you? bettyellen May 2016 #148

How many innocents died in Iraq, Libya, and Honduras because of this comment? Karmadillo May 2016 #135

got it- sexism is not enough of a problem- for YOU. your priorities should be everyones. bettyellen May 2016 #139

You're a poor mind reader, but if you're this worked up about a several decades old Karmadillo May 2016 #140

no, it is part of a pattern - of avoiding "identity politics" to attack RW assholes into the fold... bettyellen May 2016 #143

In 1969, artislife May 2016 #137

Why post this? flobee1 May 2016 #153

Sanders is very much in till the convention, apparently. I doubt Hillary will feel the need to go bettyellen May 2016 #154

Ya. He really doesn't like women, especially if there is any kind of authority. The B. Nt seabeyond May 2016 #156

Vermont has not sent a single congressperson or senator to Washington in US history Maru Kitteh May 2016 #180

Was this before or after he chained himself to a black woman Tiggeroshii May 2016 #162

His civil rights protests - in whatever form, were in college only so this would be years later..... bettyellen May 2016 #166

Bernie sucks. That is all. nt BreakfastClub May 2016 #163

One of the many reasons my union didn't endorse him. Starry Messenger May 2016 #164

Ridiculous. The term has more than one meaning. Live and Learn May 2016 #165

he was calling female teachers "b*tches" - why pretend he was talking about things? You don't even bettyellen May 2016 #167

Not at all. If that were the case he would have said so. Live and Learn May 2016 #169

Nope, it is sexist to refer to people as a b*tch. What a cheesy desperate bit of spin. LOL bettyellen May 2016 #178

No need to go there. moriah May 2016 #168

I went to high school in the 1980s Eric J in MN May 2016 #170

Was Bernie bad? Shall we bring him to heel? U4ikLefty May 2016 #171

And this is on CNN ... nolawarlock May 2016 #173

What bullshit. Article trots out and mischaracterizes that old essay too. pat_k May 2016 #176

He's still evolving on womens issues. nt LexVegas May 2016 #182

A woman who had no career except for writing crock of shit stuff like this would never be considered bettyellen May 2016 #185

The longer Bernie refuses to accept reality the more weird shit we are bound to learn nt BootinUp May 2016 #183

Good GOD the desperation wafting off this thread CrawlingChaos May 2016 #186

Obvious ally? What has he DONE besides cosign other peoples legislation? When has he ever stuck his bettyellen May 2016 #187