2016 Postmortem

Jackie Wilson Said

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234. SandersNISTAS are not liberals or Sanders supporters.

Reply to DFab420 (Reply #233)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:22 PM

Apr 2016

THey are in it only for themselves.

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If her name was still Hillary Rodham would she be this close to the presidency? [View all] DFab420 Apr 2016 OP

I love this OP. artislife Apr 2016 #1

... Agschmid Apr 2016 #29

Direct quote of yours. Your love of this op is of no surprise. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #55

Wow, nasty. And a supposed young woman advocating Repugs getting in to change up spr crt seabeyond Apr 2016 #100

Nothing I haven't seen Hillary supporters say about Bernie and the primary. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #111

Agree. And you would have a point if that is what the reply was to. It wasn't. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #116

My point was to provide context. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #120

Some people select such inappropriate names. Hortensis Apr 2016 #140

Not shocked. Agschmid Apr 2016 #188

Sorry to see they attacked you, artislife. senz Apr 2016 #211

That one is a frustrated hillbully. artislife Apr 2016 #246

If Hillary had not followed Bill to Arkansas she would have been in public office Beacool Apr 2016 #2

What can you point to to back this up. If anything her history and her OWN DFab420 Apr 2016 #3

Forget it, having a discussion with someone like you is like having a discussion Beacool Apr 2016 #8

That's not true at all. I'm just asking for something more specific then the general DFab420 Apr 2016 #9

She was 4th in line for presidency as SoS... JaneyVee Apr 2016 #21

And I agree with him, about 4 steps away from POTUS is perfect. DFab420 Apr 2016 #28

So... JaneyVee Apr 2016 #51

No, if you would even attempt comprehension what I said was she was perfect being kept at least 3 DFab420 Apr 2016 #119

LOL why is 4 steps OK? treestar Apr 2016 #147

Yup. Agschmid Apr 2016 #32

It's not "like" having a discussion with a Freeper, Codeine Apr 2016 #47

Bwahhaa haa hhhhhaaaaaa...true dat Sheepshank Apr 2016 #125

Good point........ Beacool Apr 2016 #134

You were alerted on by the OP Action_Patrol Apr 2016 #139

He's the delicate sort, I see. Codeine Apr 2016 #142

Agreed and here's an old joke PJMcK Apr 2016 #63

I remember a similar joke. Beacool Apr 2016 #133

I can't agree more SharonClark Apr 2016 #105

Even Bill admits that she is the smart one in the family. nt MADem Apr 2016 #141

He has been saying for years that she's smarter than he is. Beacool Apr 2016 #159

I agree with that--and I think he got most of his best ideas from her. MADem Apr 2016 #161

Bill Clinton was a Rhodes scholar. eom PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #206

People who haven't been Rhodes Scholars can be smart, too, ya know. nt MADem Apr 2016 #224

Hillary Clinton is an extremely smart individual; Bill Clinton has more raw PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #225

+1 treestar Apr 2016 #146

Worthy of Trump, actually..... Beacool Apr 2016 #157

If she hadn't followed Bill to Arkansas she would have been in office as a Republican. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #168

Nonsense!!! Beacool Apr 2016 #175

I agree. Sparkly Apr 2016 #208

Who can say. There is a reality and a fantasy. MineralMan Apr 2016 #4

I think the reality of the situation is that people are voting for a fantasy. DFab420 Apr 2016 #6

We have elected others who had even less political office experience. MineralMan Apr 2016 #7

Apples and oranges man. He was a wartime General with proven leadership experiance DFab420 Apr 2016 #10

You established the terms of the discussion, not me. MineralMan Apr 2016 #12

I stressed elected official because I was discussing her background. DFab420 Apr 2016 #15

Military leadership treestar Apr 2016 #149

Yeah, successfully defeating the Nazi's TM99 Apr 2016 #160

that is a different issue entirely treestar Apr 2016 #166

Moving the goal posts as usual TM99 Apr 2016 #180

You think that Eisenhower didn't develop political skills as Commander in Chief of Allied Forces? Human101948 Apr 2016 #19

The post I replied to was about holding elected office. MineralMan Apr 2016 #20

Exactly, you cherry picked one sentence from my argument and failed to apply DFab420 Apr 2016 #30

As I remember, there were only two sentences in the MineralMan Apr 2016 #36

Oh great. auntpurl Apr 2016 #5

I hope the first woman President will be one who gets there on her own merits BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #11

Oh please Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #13

"She is the most qualified candidate in a generation"-NYTimes JaneyVee Apr 2016 #18

Is it sexist now to ask for specifics? DFab420 Apr 2016 #22

No, it's sexist to assume she got where she is because she tammywammy Apr 2016 #122

Oh be serious Yupster Apr 2016 #174

No she's not. Utter crap. n/t mcranor Apr 2016 #81

Yes! That'd be a role model. Instead, the 1st woman President will be known for having been corrupt. JudyM Apr 2016 #76

We elected someone named Barack Obama... JaneyVee Apr 2016 #14

Someone who served in Congress and Senate and as a community organizer.. DFab420 Apr 2016 #24

How do you know that though? JaneyVee Apr 2016 #43

She had more potential than Bill did when he ran for governor SharonClark Apr 2016 #110

AR, not AK. nt Codeine Apr 2016 #49

Many on DU avoid his name. They use initials PBO instead of BHO. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #169

Looks like the going out of businesses sale on silly anti-Hillary OPs has started. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #16

That's a good response! You totally had a well thought out and cogent DFab420 Apr 2016 #23

Your OP is about a person's name. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #26

Nailed it. Agschmid Apr 2016 #37

+1 zappaman Apr 2016 #44

Worse than that, actually Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #67

They've got a lot of silly outrages to unload. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #127

*boom* GusBob Apr 2016 #126

Personally i think a simple Go fuck yourself would suffice MadBadger Apr 2016 #153

I'd like one for a dollah but they said that was too much uponit7771 Apr 2016 #113

LOL! treestar Apr 2016 #151

No. And if she had divorced him, her future political career would have been over. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #17

+1 artislife Apr 2016 #94

She is all those things treestar Apr 2016 #152

My perception is based on my observation of her public behavior. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #163

Pure exaggeration and building up the way you want things to be treestar Apr 2016 #164

I currently *despise* her at levels similar to Bush Junior. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #171

Some time ago I made a list comparing Hillary Clinton's proposed policies compared with those of PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #205

You were wrong about Sanders winning this. Why would we take anything you say seriously? randome Apr 2016 #25

We're going to see all manner of outrage spilling out JoePhilly Apr 2016 #31

How about answering the question? Dawgs Apr 2016 #41

Oh, yes, he does. This OP is a deliberate attempt to punish Clinton supporters. randome Apr 2016 #54

According to you. I think it's very relevant. And yes, it has nothing to do with Bernie. Dawgs Apr 2016 #59

There is no true/false substance to this. You want to sow discord. randome Apr 2016 #61

You just said "It's a false and loaded question." Dawgs Apr 2016 #66

You are trying -and failing again- to get DUers to turn on Clinton. randome Apr 2016 #79

Every other forum would block this post, so they had no choice but to put it here. Dawgs Apr 2016 #85

Nope hedgehog Apr 2016 #27

you mean the same person who won NY state twice as a senator La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #33

That was my thought .... without Bill Clinton's baggage.... etherealtruth Apr 2016 #62

this is just a way of discrediting her credentials and attributing her success La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #64

So you think that if Hillary wasn't first lady she would've been able to run for NY senate seat? DFab420 Apr 2016 #143

Yes I do ... the (idiot) governor of my state was a business person prior to his election etherealtruth Apr 2016 #144

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2016 #114

This^^^^^^^^^^^ treestar Apr 2016 #154

So, you'd like to posit that she's "unqualified" .... salinsky Apr 2016 #34

She sat on the board of WalMart. People pay her 250,000 dollars for an hour of her time DFab420 Apr 2016 #39

Didn't she get invited to the Board of Walmart when Bubba was governor of merrily Apr 2016 #179

Back when she was Hillary Rodham, she was President of the Young Republicans. B Calm Apr 2016 #35

As Hillary Rodham she was a staff attorney for the Children's Defense Fund. n/t tammywammy Apr 2016 #123

So was that after being President of Young Republicans and before being B Calm Apr 2016 #136

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Apr 2016 #135

If your name was Edward Moore not Edward Moore Kennedy, your candidacy would be a joke. iandhr Apr 2016 #38

A 40 year legacy in the Senate and you think that was just because of his name? DFab420 Apr 2016 #42

Time spent in the Senate means nothing, either. randome Apr 2016 #58

When he ran for the Senate in 1962 is was 29 running against someone named Edward McCormack... iandhr Apr 2016 #90

Getting elected in the first place would be the time at which to analyze that treestar Apr 2016 #156

exactly and would Caroline Kennedy treestar Apr 2016 #155

Of course the OP would say nothing of the sort. iandhr Apr 2016 #158

are you being sarcastic? The OP is arguing people should be treestar Apr 2016 #165

Yes I am iandhr Apr 2016 #167

Did you not know that Hillary was elected Senator from New York in her own right Frances Apr 2016 #40

Best qualified with the worst judgement. Dawgs Apr 2016 #45

32nd post hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacy of the day. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #56

You know Hillary Clinton was elected to the Senate on the back end of her DFab420 Apr 2016 #48

Not to mention the support of most New Yorkers Frances Apr 2016 #53

First they laugh at you... Ino Apr 2016 #109

What George said, "You've given me your wah wah..." LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #46

Do you have a point? George II Apr 2016 #50

Pretty sure I made my point? Your lack of clear rebuttal is telling. DFab420 Apr 2016 #72

The subject above is a question. George II Apr 2016 #84

I think it's adorable you want people to believe your question is sincere. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #52

If Bernie Sanders had never been elected to office and married well would he be on the streets? KingFlorez Apr 2016 #57

She was talented in her own right, and I would bet that she would be a national figure. Orsino Apr 2016 #60

So she had to have the White House because she's entitled, and the money left her no choice? BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #92

The system really is that fucked up. Orsino Apr 2016 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #65

How is it sexist? I am only asking what her record is without the accomplishments of another person DFab420 Apr 2016 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #74

Being the spouse of a president is an accomplishment??? DFab420 Apr 2016 #83

Being a two term Senator and SOS isn't enough qualifications to be president? qdouble Apr 2016 #68

8 years, 3 passed bills and one term as SoS in which both Libya and Syria fall apart? DFab420 Apr 2016 #70

Just say you don't like Hillary, qdouble Apr 2016 #75

I don't know her personally. But I certainly dislike much of the policy choices she's made DFab420 Apr 2016 #80

That's fine qdouble Apr 2016 #87

IT ISN'T THOUGH. That's kind of the fucking point. Her background is that of 8 years in the senate DFab420 Apr 2016 #88

There it is. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #71

Actually, according to some, she'd be more electable... because she would have divorced Bill. moriah Apr 2016 #73

Probably not, but so what? The_Casual_Observer Apr 2016 #77

she's only this far because of establishment help.she's a horrible politician. wendylaroux Apr 2016 #78

She didn't acquire ruthless ambition as a wedding gift. Jester Messiah Apr 2016 #82

she can probably thank Bill for getting her through law school as well MariaThinks Apr 2016 #86

She was a Senator of a state she hardly lived in, winning an election during her husbands last term DFab420 Apr 2016 #89

Gallup Poll Most Admired Woman jamese777 Apr 2016 #91

That doesn't really answer my question.. DFab420 Apr 2016 #95

Women! What the hell do they know, am I right? randome Apr 2016 #97

So because she's famous and women look up to her the most that means she'll be a good president? DFab420 Apr 2016 #104

You're not following me at all. randome Apr 2016 #124

Sure It Does jamese777 Apr 2016 #103

Is this the same America that keeps up with the Kardashians? DFab420 Apr 2016 #106

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2016 #115

I don't care JustAnotherGen Apr 2016 #93

Ah the winning strategy for a GE right here.... DFab420 Apr 2016 #96

I'm not her Campaign Manager JustAnotherGen Apr 2016 #99

Rush Limbaugh shares your views. How's that feel??? Gomez163 Apr 2016 #101

Henry Kissinger shares her views...How does that feel? DFab420 Apr 2016 #108

Sigh... uponit7771 Apr 2016 #118

What does Kissinger have to do with your blazing sexism??? Gomez163 Apr 2016 #128

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2016 #117

she has no doubt piggybacked her way to being another election away from the WH thebeautifulstruggle Apr 2016 #102

If her name were not 'Clinton', she would be "this close" John Poet Apr 2016 #107

"... all I can find in her history is moving to NY after being the First Lady." NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #112

Yes. runaway hero Apr 2016 #121

Dream on, newbie Carolina Apr 2016 #194

I disagree. runaway hero Apr 2016 #197

A non-sexist would ask, If Bill hadn't married her, would he have become president n/t Onlooker Apr 2016 #129

Why? Do you think Bill only ran for Governor because of Hillary's ambitions? DFab420 Apr 2016 #131

Not this "little lady" shit again. If you could not find a record of her achievements... Hekate Apr 2016 #130

I didn't forget that at all, but her record as a lawyer alone isn't enough to convince me she'd be a DFab420 Apr 2016 #132

Wow, the sexism comes unmasked when a woman runs for president! Shame on you. nt BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #137

in what way is this sexist? I am asking what she has done that makes her a viable candidate for DFab420 Apr 2016 #138

We'll never know as we can't prove what would have happened treestar Apr 2016 #145

The HUGE differences that separate FDR and JFK from HRC Carolina Apr 2016 #193

A couple makes decisions together about where they are going to live treestar Apr 2016 #195

You miss the point... so typical Carolina Apr 2016 #202

You wouldn't even know Bill's name had he not married Hillary. grossproffit Apr 2016 #148

Agreed. Or Monica Lewinsky. Or Gennifer Flowers. Or Linda Tripp. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #172

Do you seriously believe that any sane adult still gives a flying f---k COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #181

I am responding to the post "without Hillary, we wouldn't have heard about Bill" IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #182

You just keep counting on that old, failed outrage. It'll keep you warm until the COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #183

I save my outrage for more important things; this is just old IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #184

Hillary RODHAM worked for the Chief Counsel of the House Judiciary Committee during Watergate... brooklynite Apr 2016 #150

Life magazine found Hillary Diane Rodham remarkable in 1969 tirebiter Apr 2016 #162

Read her commencement speech BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #190

Self-absorbed Carolina Apr 2016 #192

No... RFKHumphreyObama Apr 2016 #170

Wrong Carolina Apr 2016 #187

Agreed runaway hero Apr 2016 #200

If FDR's name was John Smith, if Trump's name was pampango, if JFK's name was Pat O'Brien, etc. pampango Apr 2016 #173

She is an accomplished, brilliant woman on her own. She is not there because of her husband. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #176

Had she not been FLOTUS Carolina Apr 2016 #191

I read all the other comments you wrote. They are nothing but pap from a Clinton hater. Beacool Apr 2016 #216

Truth hurts Carolina Apr 2016 #243

I sense some hostility towards our nominee and the next President. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #238

Sexism? SheenaR Apr 2016 #177

If Bernie Sanders didn't leave New York to become a Senator in a hippie State, would he be... NNadir Apr 2016 #178

If Bill Clinton never married Hillary Rodham SFnomad Apr 2016 #185

BS... she always lacked people skills Carolina Apr 2016 #189

It is absurd to say she lacks people skills treestar Apr 2016 #196

She does lack people skills runaway hero Apr 2016 #198

Where did she say that? treestar Apr 2016 #199

Here it is runaway hero Apr 2016 #203

Her credentials: legacy (Clinton's first lady; Obama's SOS; NY senator; failed healthcare policy. snowy owl Apr 2016 #219

I think she is even with Merkel runaway hero Apr 2016 #244

No hate at all. Total agreement! Carolina Apr 2016 #186

Jealous much? annavictorious Apr 2016 #239

Jealous? Hell no Carolina Apr 2016 #245

Right off GOP talking point, you forgot to add all she has is she is a woman. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #201

Not even close. Don't you have some more disparaging remarks about Sanders supporters to DFab420 Apr 2016 #209

I have never disparaged a Sanders supporter. I am one. I only go after those who Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #210

Yesterday you literally posted a thread calling us pouters. DFab420 Apr 2016 #214

Anybody who would stay home is NOT a Sanders supporter. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #215

But that's not what you said. DFab420 Apr 2016 #228

You arent making sense. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #231

Lol. DFab420 Apr 2016 #233

SandersNISTAS are not liberals or Sanders supporters. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #234

Probably wouldn't know who she was n/t doc03 Apr 2016 #204

All she did on her own was to make partner at the Rose Law Firm. senz Apr 2016 #207

Your comment would fit right in on Free Republic and is without any merit. Beacool Apr 2016 #212

Could you explain what she's done after that you think warrents touting as an achievement? DFab420 Apr 2016 #218

Do your own freaking research. Beacool Apr 2016 #220

So because she's a woman critizing her is chaunvinsit? That's a bit sexist. DFab420 Apr 2016 #226

My comment is true. senz Apr 2016 #222

Your take of events is totally slanted. Beacool Apr 2016 #223

no amborin Apr 2016 #213

It's doubtful she would have even been a Senator. 99Forever Apr 2016 #217

What an ignorant comment!!!!!!! Beacool Apr 2016 #221

But she clearly states in her biography she had no desire for political life DFab420 Apr 2016 #227

Go ahead, you can say it rock Apr 2016 #229

Oh I'm sorry have we held the nominating convention yet? DFab420 Apr 2016 #230

I'm psychic rock Apr 2016 #235

Nice, can you tell us which country Hillary will vote to invade next??? DFab420 Apr 2016 #237

We don't hate you... MrWendel Apr 2016 #232

Lol took you a whole day to come up with? DFab420 Apr 2016 #236

Nah..... MrWendel Apr 2016 #240

No, of course not. nt Herman4747 Apr 2016 #241

Same thing Teddy Kennedy was asked in his 1962 Senate candidate book_worm Apr 2016 #242

Nope. Splinter Cell Apr 2016 #247

To answer your initial question Chitown Kev Apr 2016 #248