2016 Postmortem

bkkyosemite

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31. Hillary does not have a movement to build on. She is the establishment elite who does not

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:23 AM

Apr 2016

care about the people. Wait til she brings on SS cuts and...the other Corporate wants she will surprise you people...I'm voting for Bernie in Oregon. My ballot comes out on my b-day the 29th.

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Woke up this morning, logged on and went straight to [View all] MineralMan Apr 2016 OP

The primary is over. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #1

Abandon the workers of America... GoldenThunder Apr 2016 #88

Good thing Hillary Clinton is so popular with Unions... brooklynite Apr 2016 #105

And with non-union tech workers as well. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #153

The only endorsements she has ever gotten from unions were from the leadership eridani Apr 2016 #156

Very well said. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #2

To rational thinking posters, it's over. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #3

+1 grossproffit Apr 2016 #4

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2016 #11

They assassinated Robert Kennedy in June, B Calm Apr 2016 #5

If I recall correctly, she was much closer to Obama at the time than Sanders has been Squinch Apr 2016 #9

Much, much closer. And she had switched her focus to going after the GOP. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #148

Yes. She campaigned hard for Obama. She was very impressive. Squinch Apr 2016 #150

Perish the thought, and shame on you for MineralMan Apr 2016 #10

Shame on me for using Hillary logic! B Calm Apr 2016 #13

Shame on anyone who suggests it. MineralMan Apr 2016 #16

Totally agree. That's a good reason not to vote for her now. B Calm Apr 2016 #17

I think you miss the point of a primary Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #71

She was being asked about how long she was going to contest the primary. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #58

I've seen it in context and it is no less tasteless. Svafa Apr 2016 #106

"Tasteless" is a far cry from implying she stayed in the race in case of assassination. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #110

There is no higher standard for her. Svafa Apr 2016 #117

Didn't you say you watched the video? yallerdawg Apr 2016 #121

Yes, I've seen it many times. Svafa Apr 2016 #123

There is no implication!!! yallerdawg Apr 2016 #130

Do you know what the definition of "imply" is? Svafa Apr 2016 #135

That is an incredible leap in context! yallerdawg Apr 2016 #143

I watched the video. Multiple times. Svafa Apr 2016 #145

It's what some Sanders supporters do. They make shit up and then hate Hillary because of the Squinch Apr 2016 #152

That's not what she said nor is it what she had implied. StevieM Apr 2016 #112

She went there! B Calm Apr 2016 #113

Nope. She didn't. (eom) StevieM Apr 2016 #134

Rewriting history is a conservative trait. B Calm Apr 2016 #138

I disputed this line of attack eight years ago when it was first made against her. StevieM Apr 2016 #142

LOL go for it. B Calm Apr 2016 #144

Yes, shame on you but at least its creative uponit7771 Apr 2016 #12

+1 Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #20

Time for a redirection. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #27

Just reminding people how low Hillary got campaigning B Calm Apr 2016 #28

Okay. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #33

Hillary does not have a movement to build on. She is the establishment elite who does not bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #31

Again, this idea that she supports SS cuts is something you got directly from the Republican Squinch Apr 2016 #46

Not only does this poster consistently appropriate RW talking points Sheepshank Apr 2016 #78

It is a just a retread of Manny's claim that Obama was going to cut social security emulatorloo Apr 2016 #79

Well, Manny was something in sheep's clothing. I still don't know what he was under all that wool. Squinch Apr 2016 #80

Which is exactly the bullshit that Pet Petersen spounted in 2010 eridani Apr 2016 #157

No, it doesn't mean anything like that. It means raise the floor. You know, like raising Squinch Apr 2016 #159

What she said in the first debate was exaclty what Pete Petersen said in 2010 eridani Apr 2016 #162

She never said or even hinted that she'll cut Social Security. Where did you get that? George II Apr 2016 #67

She has left a lot of wiggle room on that issue... Human101948 Apr 2016 #154

To those looking for something to criticize, that's "wiggle room". As a matter of fact she NEVER... George II Apr 2016 #155

Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT. fleur-de-lisa Apr 2016 #34

Thanks, they don't like being reminded of how damn low Hillary can go. I cried my eyes B Calm Apr 2016 #90

That's awful to talk about assassination in regard to ANY candidate. cwydro Apr 2016 #42

Tell that to Hillary! B Calm Apr 2016 #94

So if someone you despise says something despicable, that means it's fine for you to say it? cwydro Apr 2016 #100

No, but some need to be reminded of where she went. B Calm Apr 2016 #107

Oh and here's your link you requested. B Calm Apr 2016 #111

They dont' have to assinate anymore, they have control of OUR voting machines....get it? ViseGrip Apr 2016 #53

Are you hoping that Clinton get assassinated? George II Apr 2016 #65

Not me, you? B Calm Apr 2016 #91

Really Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #70

What are you suggesting? fun n serious Apr 2016 #83

Just reminding Hillary supporters who voted for Obama on how dirty she is. B Calm Apr 2016 #93

I voted for Obama and thought they both handled it very well. pnwmom Apr 2016 #149

I voted for Obama too and thought she should of had never said that. B Calm Apr 2016 #151

I like how you're being shamed for quoting Mrs Clinton. frylock Apr 2016 #85

I know, it's cracking me up! B Calm Apr 2016 #92

I love the righteous, pearl-clutching indignance. Marr Apr 2016 #124

LOL B Calm Apr 2016 #125

Well, we'll worry about that circumstance if and when it arises anigbrowl Apr 2016 #115

actually her logic was the opposite dsc Apr 2016 #137

Does HRC have the required delegaste count to earn nomination right now, today? HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #6

. Squinch Apr 2016 #8

... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #26

Completely irrelevant, given the support from superdelegates. MineralMan Apr 2016 #14

Actually the delegate count is all that is relevant, irrelevant applies to touting the popular vote Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #23

You continue to push something that even Bernie is not pushing. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #29

You work for the MSM ???? Cuz that's what they say too. It was not a concession speech. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #32

Okay. Let's come back to this in a couple of weeks. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #41

'irrelevant'.... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #25

Hillary will decide the Party Platform and she is not pivoting away from issues leftofcool Apr 2016 #132

LOL... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #139

Yes Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #72

SDs don't vote UNTIL convention... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #77

None of the delegates do. MineralMan Apr 2016 #104

Defelection on the point... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #108

My friend, if you think that most superdelegates will somehow MineralMan Apr 2016 #109

I didn't state that, you're jumping the shark... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #114

Oh, I intend to fully enjoy the ride. This will be another historic MineralMan Apr 2016 #116

Ahh I see, image over issues... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #122

Another very interesting statistic from there: Hillary, as you say 12,248,297, Drumpf 10,121,657 Squinch Apr 2016 #7

Yes. We need to help Hillary win in a landslide and bring MineralMan Apr 2016 #15

She has zero coattails. The Republican women who are grossed out by Trump and NOT-- eridani Apr 2016 #158

There needs to be major bridge repair of Mandella proportions. gordianot Apr 2016 #22

There will not be. Sanders supporters need to stop thinking that she will now cater to them Squinch Apr 2016 #24

They aspirations are very different and so are the supporters of both camps. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #35

"Supporters of both camps" is a battle that has been fought and decided. There is only Squinch Apr 2016 #43

That is truly a winning strategy. gordianot Apr 2016 #48

It isn't a strategy. It is a simple statement of reality. Squinch Apr 2016 #49

And our flaws are in ourselves not the Stars. gordianot Apr 2016 #54

Oh, Lordy. Squinch Apr 2016 #81

Same here. GE Mode... Activated. An aside, one of my high school girlfriends was named 'Diane.' nt onehandle Apr 2016 #18

My most serious HS girlfriend had a sister named Diana. MineralMan Apr 2016 #36

"Over 3 million popular votes and 300 pledged delegates ahead." workinclasszero Apr 2016 #19

Please do. Move, that is. Punkingal Apr 2016 #21

Don't get nasty. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #30

Bernie's movement has nothing to do with Hillary's rigged nomination if she gets it. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #39

I'm always moving, but won't be moving away from DU. MineralMan Apr 2016 #40

MMan, how long for you? kstewart33 Apr 2016 #45

I joined late in 2008, so not as long. MineralMan Apr 2016 #47

Neither will I. Punkingal Apr 2016 #59

Has anyone asked you to? Not me. MineralMan Apr 2016 #68

Bernie supporters are told to leave on a daily basis, as you must have noticed. Punkingal Apr 2016 #74

So? I haven't asked any of them to leave. MineralMan Apr 2016 #76

No, I said move. LOL Punkingal Apr 2016 #89

Actually, they aren't. They MAY be told that they are not being realistic, but I haven't seen Squinch Apr 2016 #82

Nixon won in 1968 and 1972, Reagan won in 1980 and 1984, and PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #37

Clinton and Democrats Good. Trump and GOP bad. Nothing Else matters. Armstead Apr 2016 #38

That's going to be a general theme for the GE. MineralMan Apr 2016 #44

I hope Bernie does the right thing tonight. As Plouffe stated last week, ecstatic Apr 2016 #50

Trump is the wild card. Who he is will get most people MineralMan Apr 2016 #52

congrats 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #51

There's no reason to congratulate me at all. MineralMan Apr 2016 #55

if she should win, she WILL be impeached 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #56

Nonsense. A President can only be impeached MineralMan Apr 2016 #57

That is 100% correct timing is everything. gordianot Apr 2016 #60

and never should be. 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #62

not appropriate Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #73

then you should have voted for one with less baggage 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #84

I've always been in GE mode lol. Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #61

But the superdelegates don't vote until they get to the convention... George II Apr 2016 #63

And then, they do vote. MineralMan Apr 2016 #64

How many will Tad and Jeff convince to flip over to Sanders? Are they pressuring this particular... George II Apr 2016 #66

None, I think. MineralMan Apr 2016 #69

they pledge Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #75

I agree. hamsterjill Apr 2016 #86

The primary contest is over Gothmog Apr 2016 #87

Nope you are incorrect. Neither Hillary or Bernie have the required amount B Calm Apr 2016 #95

Denial is not just a river in Africa Gothmog Apr 2016 #98

Are you saying I'm a liar? B Calm Apr 2016 #99

You just pulled that directly out of...somewhere. Because that's clearly not what the poster was Squinch Apr 2016 #119

Then why don't you tell us what the poster I was replying to meant to say. B Calm Apr 2016 #120

He is saying, rather clearly, that you are in denial. Which does seem to be the case. Squinch Apr 2016 #127

I was stating a fact, you calling me a liar? B Calm Apr 2016 #128

Oh, for fuck's sake. You are just dying to be called a liar. What? Do you get points for that? Squinch Apr 2016 #129

No one has won the Democratic nominee. Quit pretending that someone has B Calm Apr 2016 #131

It's over. Hillary won. If denying obvious reality is what you require of people in order for you Squinch Apr 2016 #133

It's not over. B Calm Apr 2016 #136

The Clinton campaign has pivoted to the general election. Beacool Apr 2016 #96

Well, it's in the process of pivoting, anyhow. MineralMan Apr 2016 #97

Bye! Enjoy your mode and reading. k8conant Apr 2016 #101

Well, that was enlightening... MineralMan Apr 2016 #102

unreal.... chillfactor Apr 2016 #103

Many never were Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #118

K&R mcar Apr 2016 #126

Weird this whole "accept our candidate" ymetca Apr 2016 #140

Hmm...I've never been much of a Trekkie. MineralMan Apr 2016 #141

What makes democracy ymetca May 2016 #163

Lol, ok, feel better? Nt Logical Apr 2016 #146

I feel fine, thanks. MineralMan Apr 2016 #147

K & R Scurrilous Apr 2016 #160

Thanks! MineralMan Apr 2016 #161