2016 Postmortem

MADem

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172. That's a garbage cite--no link. Talks about "financial reports" -- not tax returns. Stop conflating

Reply to beedle (Reply #170)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:47 AM

Apr 2016

and changing the subject-it is obvious that you are trying to shift the focus away from the tax return problem.

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What is the difference between Hillary's transcripts and Bernie's IRS taxes? [View all] ViseGrip Apr 2016 OP

It's all they got. djean111 Apr 2016 #1

It IS all they got. And you know they have looked and looked. yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #4

They even became stalkers over the plane flight to the Vatican. Fawke Em Apr 2016 #60

Good for you. . . .thanks from everyone. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #84

Holy shit....you are scary. Please add the tinfoil hat to these posts. Nt pkdu Apr 2016 #154

The tax returns go directly to the candidate's adherence to the law of the land. MADem Apr 2016 #2

This scscholar Apr 2016 #12

Yes opinions change, and Hillary Clinton's opinions change EXTREMELY often Dragonfli Apr 2016 #13

But TAX RETURNS are a declaration to the government. MADem Apr 2016 #15

. Dragonfli Apr 2016 #16

Yeah, it sucks when the bottom line is that your candidate is not being transparent. MADem Apr 2016 #22

I see what you're doing (talk about transparent) Dragonfli Apr 2016 #25

No, you don't. The US FEDERAL GOVERNMENT does not require that MADem Apr 2016 #28

Easy on the truth MADem, they can't handle the truth. oasis Apr 2016 #74

13.4 percent's worth of truth. If everyone paid as few taxes as Berrrnie, you wouldn't be able to MADem Apr 2016 #76

If Bernie is hiding his tax info, it should be addressed. nt oasis Apr 2016 #81

DING DING DING!! uponit7771 Apr 2016 #121

Don't let facts get in your way hueymahl Apr 2016 #202

All of his assets are in his wife's name--why do you suppose that is? MADem Apr 2016 #204

Estate planning? hueymahl Apr 2016 #207

I think if he didn't cut that shit loose, he'd be a millionaire...and ya can't have that, can ya? MADem Apr 2016 #208

You are a piece of work hueymahl Apr 2016 #210

Do you even look at the garbage you write? MADem Apr 2016 #211

You sure are acting angry hueymahl Apr 2016 #215

I am not--but YOU keep getting personal with me and calling me names. MADem Apr 2016 #223

Good luck with the rest of your day hueymahl Apr 2016 #226

that is so awesome. Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #35

Well, I have tried not to use ignore very often and still only have perhaps a dozen on ignore Dragonfli Apr 2016 #43

You have grown from a Conservative Democrat I sometimes disagreed with, but fairly decent Dragonfli Apr 2016 #29

Yeah, and you have no argument, so you make it about MEEEEEEEEE. MADem Apr 2016 #122

PREACH!!!!! Happy Friday!!!! n/t asuhornets Apr 2016 #216

Backatcha!!!!! MADem Apr 2016 #219

So was her oath as SOS. JudyM Apr 2016 #196

So would you be OK with Ted Cruz not releasing his tax returns? anigbrowl Apr 2016 #47

You are stating something as fact that is only rumor that he "will not release his tax returns" Dragonfli Apr 2016 #50

It's a simple yes or no question anigbrowl Apr 2016 #62

"Will you stop beating your wife" is also a yes or no answer, one I also wouldn't answer tho. Dragonfli Apr 2016 #64

The two are nothing alike as you well know. anigbrowl Apr 2016 #70

You are quite the ventriloquist Dragonfli Apr 2016 #73

Actually I quoted the same piece of text that you did... anigbrowl Apr 2016 #85

I think they would've uncovered if he broke the law YES, that answers the question re my words fully Dragonfli Apr 2016 #96

But .... but .... (Shirley Temple POUT) .... "It's Oooh Kaaaay if it's BERRRRRRNIE!!!!" MADem Apr 2016 #75

$50,000 in deductions is not distilled water. KittyWampus Apr 2016 #55

Thanks for reminding me, unlike the other poster now on ignore, you have always been abrassive Dragonfli Apr 2016 #61

That's not a bad thing either, people need to change for the better uponit7771 Apr 2016 #111

But changing so often both for the better and the worse and so very often shows little but Dragonfli Apr 2016 #116

The opposite is worse of the two uponit7771 Apr 2016 #117

Flexible adherence to a moral compass that does not waver or compromise moral values is best. Dragonfli Apr 2016 #119

Sept Sanders isn't flexible at all, matter of fact he's more dogmatic seeing there are few practical uponit7771 Apr 2016 #120

He is flexible, just not with his morality 109 economists including Robert Reich disagree regarding Dragonfli Apr 2016 #123

No he's not, well... until he see's he's going to totally lose a demographic... then he becomes uponit7771 Apr 2016 #124

sigh, you should have read my full post, not that the truth matters in a big Donor corporate Dragonfli Apr 2016 #126

That's what you're going with? "Opinions change?" morningfog Apr 2016 #86

I think the transcripts are going to disappoint the hell out of you eager beavers. MADem Apr 2016 #143

I really don't care about the transcripts, it's just a good issue to hammer. morningfog Apr 2016 #147

It's just a good issue to hammer. MADem Apr 2016 #149

I try. morningfog Apr 2016 #153

LMAO!!! basselope Apr 2016 #118

Yeah, I do. MADem Apr 2016 #145

LOL basselope Apr 2016 #150

We shall see--but don't act like you "know" -- because you don't. MADem Apr 2016 #152

I know enough to know there is absolutely nothing suspicious. basselope Apr 2016 #167

That's why Jane started sweating like a confidence man caught out on MSNBC when she was asked MADem Apr 2016 #168

Wow. The stuff people see when they are desperate. basselope Apr 2016 #173

Highly contested elections--are you high? He has only had one really tough election in recent MADem Apr 2016 #174

LMAO basselope Apr 2016 #180

You've never seen a GOP attack ad, obviously. You're YOUNG? MADem Apr 2016 #213

Seen many of them. basselope Apr 2016 #217

Well, Mike Dukakis and John Kerry do disagree with you, you know. MADem Apr 2016 #218

LOL. basselope Apr 2016 #222

Oh yeah, all those "progressives" voted for George Bush? Listen to you! MADem Apr 2016 #224

They didn't vote for Bush. They voted 3rd party. basselope Apr 2016 #225

Oh, yeah, sure!!! That must mean that "progressives" make up, what--two percent of the electorate? MADem Apr 2016 #227

Yes, feel the math. basselope Apr 2016 #228

Tax returns go to the IRS beedle Apr 2016 #140

Maybe, just maybe, Jane doesn't want the 4th Estate to pull those Schedule A items apart. MADem Apr 2016 #142

Maybe, beedle Apr 2016 #146

Sanders admitted she files extensions often, and amends as well. MADem Apr 2016 #148

Clintons ommitted whole shell companies beedle Apr 2016 #170

That's a garbage cite--no link. Talks about "financial reports" -- not tax returns. Stop conflating MADem Apr 2016 #172

so do FBI investigations AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #176

Oooooooooh (Shirley Temple Pout)! You are gonna be Soooooooo MAD when nothing comes of that! MADem Apr 2016 #177

Omg, your candidate appears to have sold weapons in exchange for foundation donations & you expect JudyM Apr 2016 #195

and Jane Sanders has committed to providing his new return as soon as it's completed, elleng Apr 2016 #3

The IRS will provide a copy of your full return for a fee. MADem Apr 2016 #6

Sure they could afford it, elleng Apr 2016 #10

Actually, the campaign is paying for their room and board, so MADem Apr 2016 #17

Who suggested I think they are 'donating to this campaign?' elleng Apr 2016 #20

YOU said THIS: MADem Apr 2016 #23

End this, please. elleng Apr 2016 #27

Bullshit. Jane has adult children who can go get that stuff for her. MADem Apr 2016 #32

I'm not interested in hillary's schedule a's, elleng Apr 2016 #36

You sure as hell would be if she DIDN'T RELEASE THEM. MADem Apr 2016 #38

you are claiming the campaign is paying their mortgage now? Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #37

Where in hell did you get that notion? MADem Apr 2016 #39

in what fairy land do the bills back home stop because you are traveling? Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #45

The electric bill goes down to nothing. If you're not paying to fill the fridge, but instead, MADem Apr 2016 #46

Weak Sauce, up and down mrdmk Apr 2016 #135

now you sound uneducated. FEC rules, you MUST spend campaign money on campaign ViseGrip Apr 2016 #92

That's just absurd. They are not "required to live off the campaign." That's pure NONSENSE. MADem Apr 2016 #129

And it takes several weeks to obtain the return from the IRS JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #127

If she'd ordered them when people started crabbing, instead of making mealy-mouthed excuses, MADem Apr 2016 #128

If you say so. I think I'll reserve judgement until I have some, ya know, facts. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #130

Here's one fact for you - 13.4 %; wouldn't it be nice to pay so little in income tax? MADem Apr 2016 #131

I paid less, so that would not be great. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #133

With receipts like these, Sanders isn't going to be able to send people to flower arranging classes, MADem Apr 2016 #134

Huh? No idea what you are saying. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #137

If one percenters are contributing so little to the coffers, Sanders will not be able to send people MADem Apr 2016 #139

Taxes will be raised. Pretty simple. I am ok with that. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #141

LOL--really? Bernie's gonna make that sale to a GOP congress? MADem Apr 2016 #144

Why are you shitting on beauticians and florists? SwampG8r Apr 2016 #183

I'm not "shitting on" them. But it costs less to train up in those jobs than it does to attend uni MADem Apr 2016 #192

Just keep shitting on folks then i guess SwampG8r Apr 2016 #198

Keep missing the point, then! See how that works? nt MADem Apr 2016 #199

Christ, Jane said she does them on TurboTax, COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #155

The topic of discussion was getting returns from the IRS. I said nothing of Turbotax. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #158

The point is that some had made the excuse that they COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #189

Are you seriously saying the main barrier is Jane's inability to physically access a filing cabinet? anigbrowl Apr 2016 #48

the real difference is that Jane had said that they will be released....Hillary won't say that,,,, virtualobserver Apr 2016 #52

Nobody but Bernie supporters care about the transcripts anigbrowl Apr 2016 #63

You are right, her transcripts tell us what she really believes when she talks to big business...... virtualobserver Apr 2016 #66

Complete nonsense anigbrowl Apr 2016 #80

This isn't about what is in her "heart of hearts"....The smoking gun is the secrecy itself. virtualobserver Apr 2016 #95

Not seeing it anigbrowl Apr 2016 #97

The money and the lack of transparency would be fine if she wasn't running for President....... virtualobserver Apr 2016 #100

The hyperbole is sort of ridiculous anigbrowl Apr 2016 #105

Hillary Clinton....the first incorruptible politician..... virtualobserver Apr 2016 #107

When you have to make up statements to attribute them to your opponent... anigbrowl Apr 2016 #110

I am just expressing what you are claiming,,they gave her millions and it won't affect her decsions virtualobserver Apr 2016 #112

No you're not. nt anigbrowl Apr 2016 #114

so then you are saying that the money will affect her decisions. Either it will or it won't. virtualobserver Apr 2016 #115

Au contrarie, if HRC supporters actually saw those transcripts she would have a lot less FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #82

And you know this how? anigbrowl Apr 2016 #87

There have been leeks, but WE don't go with that, we want confirmation. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #90

So no answer then anigbrowl Apr 2016 #99

Were those leeks in a soup??? COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #156

The Welsh make a fine leek soup! Oh, I could eat that stuff all day! nt MADem Apr 2016 #175

Me too! COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #186

She was not at GS et. al. for the food. So, Until she releases them, if ever, I will assume the FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #106

Well at least you are honest about being irrational anigbrowl Apr 2016 #108

This is why people like you get everyone else fucked in the ass! FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #194

uh huh anigbrowl Apr 2016 #197

What I see is government politicians being bought for pennies on the dollar. It it FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #206

Wrong again Bob. The only people who don't care about them are Hillary supporters pdsimdars Apr 2016 #89

No doubt you have evidence to back up this claim anigbrowl Apr 2016 #94

Jane said they were on TurboTax. No need to go home. Just a simple click of button. KittyWampus Apr 2016 #56

Hillary & her followers can't find real dirt. This is all they have... nt revbones Apr 2016 #5

Oh yeah? Why didn't they release these stinkers months ago? MADem Apr 2016 #8

The sad, ugly end will be in November, when your candidate loses because she's Fawke Em Apr 2016 #65

My candidate won't lose, and your candidate's supporters can either be a part of history or stand to MADem Apr 2016 #68

Agree. Hillary needs to release the transcripts now. Dawgs Apr 2016 #69

"Transcripts" are not mandated government documents. Tax returns are. MADem Apr 2016 #72

Bernie has promised to release. If he's a cheat then we will know. Dawgs Apr 2016 #78

$50,000 in deductions? Exposing a hypocrite who pretends to be pure KittyWampus Apr 2016 #58

I think he should offer a trade at the debate: TCJ70 Apr 2016 #7

Well Said. Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #9

Also the transcript issue has been ongoing now for months longer than dana_b Apr 2016 #11

He has no transcripts for Wall Street speaches. but pdsimdars Apr 2016 #91

yep! dana_b Apr 2016 #93

No transcripts have never been released tax returns have MattP Apr 2016 #14

And he has had "failure to disclose" problems in the past, that are documented. MADem Apr 2016 #19

No, they have not. That is categorically false. KittyWampus Apr 2016 #59

taxes are required by law. personal opinions given to bored people eating lousy food are not nt msongs Apr 2016 #18

Releasing tax returns has become a normal part of Presidential candidate politics for decades SFnomad Apr 2016 #21

And no others spoke to banking entities that broke our country, and got bailed out. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #34

You can come up with any excuse you want, but that still doesn't change the fact SFnomad Apr 2016 #41

That's a disingenuous statement. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #136

You're the one being disingenuous SFnomad Apr 2016 #169

Bullshit. You ignore the AMOUNTS of money. Those fees were huge and unprecedented. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #181

What, no presidential candidate has ever spoken to an audience of bankers before? anigbrowl Apr 2016 #49

Geez, are you pretending to not get it or are you just incapable of getting it? BillZBubb Apr 2016 #138

There is nothing to get anigbrowl Apr 2016 #191

Bernie and Jane will release anything from their tax returns that people want to see BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #24

When??? COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #157

I think we are missing something else of great importance here. Avalux Apr 2016 #26

Jane is capable to do their own, she is a smart lady. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #30

Regular One Percenters, you mean. nt MADem Apr 2016 #40

No, she does what millions of Anericans do every year. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #160

"Transcripts involve the shaping of US policy?" yallerdawg Apr 2016 #31

Ohhhhh NO! Have you forgotten Romney's speech he didn't want us to hear? ViseGrip Apr 2016 #42

I don't need to hear Republican speeches. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #44

Hillary and Bill are DINOs. Fawke Em Apr 2016 #67

Naw, Illimunati are the B Team. The Bildergerg Group is where the real COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #161

Nothing, if we aren't allowed to look at either. Orsino Apr 2016 #33

Bernie isn't hiding his. They're on the campaign trail and Jane said she will put them out when Zira Apr 2016 #53

Well, it's now April 13. Tick Tock. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #162

And how about prior years? Orsino Apr 2016 #200

Prior years too, of course. But not releasing COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #201

I disagree. Anyone can request a 30-day extension. Orsino Apr 2016 #203

They can request an extension to file but the cannot COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #205

Bernies Taxes get released every 6 years - every time he runs. Zira Apr 2016 #51

Cough (bullshit) cough. Paying 13.4 percent is interesting. 56K in deductions is INTERESTING. MADem Apr 2016 #71

Bernie tells truth. clinton tells stories. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #54

Furthest from a factual declaration I've seen all day. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #163

Both should be released, imo. (nt) bigwillq Apr 2016 #57

bernie is in the wrong... artyteacher Apr 2016 #77

Bernie has always released his tax returns and he will this time. Dawgs Apr 2016 #79

how is it a lie... artyteacher Apr 2016 #88

This is false, he didn't release FULL returns uponit7771 Apr 2016 #113

Because he hasn't released them yet. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #164

"Hasn't release yet" is not "he won't" so it's a lie. n/t Dawgs Apr 2016 #184

OK. When will he release them? January 3? COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #190

It's a lie because he said he will release them. Dawgs Apr 2016 #185

The IRS says they have Bernie's returns, no one but Hillary has her transcripts . . . . pdsimdars Apr 2016 #83

OK. Then why won't the make them public? COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #165

I'd like to know what it is people think they're going to find in his taxes LadyHawkAZ Apr 2016 #98

About $150 mill. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #101

The transcripts involve whether she's been bribed for $675,000 Herman4747 Apr 2016 #102

Bernie is going to look like a HUUUUGE hypocrite ... salinsky Apr 2016 #103

The Difference tirebiter Apr 2016 #104

lol... birdiebro is working overtime!!! uponit7771 Apr 2016 #109

About 20 million nt Bonobo Apr 2016 #125

Bernie will release his taxes just before the NY primary. DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #132

I thought maybe while they're in Rome? ViseGrip Apr 2016 #151

As soon as somebody can come up with COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #166

One will be released before the debate.....n/t pantsonfire Apr 2016 #159

Also, Bernie has financial disclosures from the last 26 years here jfern Apr 2016 #171

Seriously... deathrind Apr 2016 #178

millions and millions SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #179

The 1040 has already been made public. I don't know what shills expect to find in the worksheets lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #182

Bernie's taxes are comparable to Hillary's taxes treestar Apr 2016 #187

"Bernie's TAX RETURNS" was from an email blast the other day; to counteract the transcripts amborin Apr 2016 #188

Several 0's. N/t JesterCS Apr 2016 #193

I assumed you were asking for a number of zeroes Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #209

Nothing Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #212

such disrespect for voters to refuse to release the transcripts amborin Apr 2016 #214

We don't know what is in Bernie's returns, so how can you answer what the BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #220

Tax returns are a legally required document workinclasszero Apr 2016 #221